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Gene Hackman 33 39.76%
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Old 11-27-2006, 08:27 AM   #1
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Default Gene Hackman or Kevin Spacey?

Sorry if there's already a thread on this, but I got into a debate in another forum, where a guy said that Hackman was a better Luthor than Spacey (which I think it's not true, but it's up to each one of us), and he said that almost everyone agreed with him. Then, he made a poll and Spacey pwned Hackman in that poll, but he said that "it's not fair, this is a SR site, and it's biased". So, I came here, searched for this kind of poll (didn't find one), and I went ahead and made this.
So, which one do you think is the better Luthor: KS or GH?

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Old 11-27-2006, 08:31 AM   #2
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Default Re: Gene Hackman or Kevin Spacey?

Spacey's Luthor had a more manic edge, while Hackman's take was more sardonic.

Spacey seemed to be genuinely close to insanity, while Hackman seemed like a mortal whose dreams exceeded his grasp (barely). Since Lex is eventually elected President of the United States in the comics (I believe), I think Hackman's was more believable.

That being said, I enjoyed Spacey's performance more than Hackman's mostly because of the bigger scope of his plot and range.

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Old 11-27-2006, 08:54 AM   #3
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Spacey because he seemed more dark rather than Hackman's almost comedic Luthor.

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Old 11-27-2006, 02:45 PM   #4
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Hackman. At least he was openly campy. Spacey is a great actor and he did try to convey the idea that this was a more creepy Luthor but he stuck by his intentions. That idea never really materialized on screen.

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Old 01-08-2007, 07:47 PM   #5
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Hackman. At least he was openly campy. Spacey is a great actor and he did try to convey the idea that this was a more creepy Luthor but he stuck by his intentions. That idea never really materialized on screen.
I agree. I like the idea of a dark Lex Luthor, but Spacey's performance just didn't cut it. It seemed like he was trying to impersonate Gene Hackman, rather than Lex Luthor, while trying to be dark at the same time. Gene Hackman's Luthor was more original, and he fit well in the Christopher Reeve world of Superman.

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Old 11-27-2006, 03:15 PM   #6
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Wait, wait, wait....Spacey played Luthor?

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Wait, wait, wait....Spacey played Luthor?
LOL, Hackman for me.

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Old 05-29-2013, 09:32 PM   #8
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Spacey. Hackman wasn't even menacing in a campy silver age way.

Spacey needed better writing, but there were shades of ruthless business man Lex I love so much in his portrayal. Plus, a lot of his dialogue is the best thing in the movie. His Prometheus speech to Kitty about gods....pure Lex.

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Hackman for me, but I loved Spacey too!

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Old 12-15-2006, 12:45 PM   #10
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Old 02-16-2007, 01:15 PM   #12
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Hackman -- by MILES and MILES and MILES.

I like Spacey in the right roles (e.g. "The Usual Suspects", "Se7en", "American Beauty", "K-PAX") ................ but he was really bland as Luthor, IMO. He had little complexity and barely interacted with the other characters.

By contrast..........

Gene Hackman delivered an incredibly stylish, cunning and nuanced performance as Lex Luthor. As far as I am concerned, his performance is Oscar-caliber. He rarely gets the respect I feel he's owed -- even by FANS of his portrayal. He had such an uncanny sense of timing as Lex. And the writing itself was LEAPS AND BOUNDS better. In the Donner movies, Luthor actually has a real relationship with his sidekicks, Otis and Miss Tessmacher, almost to the point that he's a needy child who in someway needs them around to paradoxically feel superior and gain their approval. It's a subtext no one seems to talk about, but if you watch the films carefully and closely enough, it's there. Hackman also had fantastic interplay with Terence Stamp in the sequel. Honestly, his performance remains one of my favourites of all time.

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Old 02-16-2007, 02:09 PM   #13
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Hackman -- by MILES and MILES and MILES.

I like Spacey in the right roles (e.g. "The Usual Suspects", "Se7en", "American Beauty", "K-PAX") ................ but he was really bland as Luthor, IMO. He had little complexity and barely interacted with the other characters.

By contrast..........

Gene Hackman delivered an incredibly stylish, cunning and nuanced performance as Lex Luthor. As far as I am concerned, his performance is Oscar-caliber. He rarely gets the respect I feel he's owed -- even by FANS of his portrayal. He had such an uncanny sense of timing as Lex. And the writing itself was LEAPS AND BOUNDS better. In the Donner movies, Luthor actually has a real relationship with his sidekicks, Otis and Miss Tessmacher, almost to the point that he's a needy child who in someway needs them around to paradoxically feel superior and gain their approval. It's a subtext no one seems to talk about, but if you watch the films carefully and closely enough, it's there. Hackman also had fantastic interplay with Terence Stamp in the sequel. Honestly, his performance remains one of my favourites of all time.
Totally agree.
For example: Luthor / Hackman's brief pantomime response to Miss Teschmacher / Perrine's plea for her mother who lives in Hackensack beats the entirety of Spacey's performance in SR.

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Old 11-29-2006, 05:26 PM   #14
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I liked them both, but i thought that Hackman was slightly cooler, so i voted him.

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Old 11-30-2006, 07:26 PM   #15
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Neither of them were true to the character, imo. But Spacey SUCKED! I hated his Luthor with a white hot passion. He was better in the second half, a LOT better, but not enough to save the overall performance. For that reason, I say Hackman.

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Old 12-02-2006, 02:42 AM   #16
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Default Re: Gene Hackman or Kevin Spacey?

Spacey. He was abit more menacing.

Though it's like asking to choose between which child you love more.

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Default Re: Gene Hackman or Kevin Spacey?

The problem, imo, wasn't Spacey per se, but rather the material he had to work with. It was inadequate material, simply put.

Had they had a few scenes, where it was clear that a few months had gone by, where they showed some kind of lab where researchers were playing with the crystals and showing what kind of technology could be developed and what kind of knowledge could be gained through the use of the crystals, it's possible that Spacey might have equaled Hackman's performance.

Probably not, imo, because it seemed to me that Spacey was playing a part, whereas, Hackman became Luthor.

That's the difference between a good actor like Spacey and a great actor like Hackman.


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Old 12-02-2006, 08:12 AM   #19
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Gene Hackman is hilarious in the Superman: the Movie and Superman II (Donner Cut). So he gets my vote...

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Spacey. He seemed more evil to me.

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i think spacey did the best luthor.. hackman did a fiiiine job but spacey hade more of a evil feel to him.. he didnt just do evil thing he had an evil way of talking that was just PERFECT for lex..

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Spacey. Just enough evil and just enough humor to balance everything out.

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I think they both could have been better, but I like Spacey's a little more. If Gene Hackman's Luthor was written more evil and less camp his would have ruled. He could have had the same big plans but act more like Little Bill in Unforgiven. Little Bill was funny but really mean at the same time.

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Hackman was funny and entertaining.

Spacey was funny, entertaining and EVIL


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