Who are the Celestials

[LivingTribunal]

Energy beings in armour, born from dead galaxies, older than the universe and Eternity's creation is my guess. How do any of u, rate them in the cosmic hierarchy

[Vanguard07]

I rate them at close to but not quite equal to full powered Galactus.
And I dont think they're older than the universe. I thought they were created after the big bang.

[LivingTribunal]

Originally Posted by Vanguard07

I rate them at close to but not quite equal to full powered Galactus.
And I dont think they're older than the universe. I thought they were created after the big bang.

Will we ever see a FP Galactus? I think not. Do u think Galactus has a chance against all of the Celestials?

[Brainiac 8]

It still pretty much states that Galactus would be milktoast to them. But who knows...have they ever showed Galactus go all out...I don't think so.

They said in Annihilation that we will get to see Galactus cut loose, so we shall see.

But they have stated in the comics that the Celestials are pretty much some of the most powerful beings in the universe. They can kill gods!

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Originally Posted by LivingTribunal

Will we ever see a FP Galactus? I think not. Do u think Galactus has a chance against all of the Celestials?

In SWII Galactus were at full power when confronting the Beyonder ...
But back then Beyonder was the most powerful being:
http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1984wo1.jpg

To answer your question:
Celestial's are manifastations of Eternity's meditation:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3...8801014xb7.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4...8801015yl1.jpg

[LivingTribunal]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

In SWII Galactus were at full power when confronting the Beyonder ...
But back then Beyonder was the most powerful being:
http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1984wo1.jpg

To answer your question:
Celestial's are manifastations of Eternity's meditation:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3...8801014xb7.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4...8801015yl1.jpg

Thank u, friend
I think Heroes Reborn #4 is better

[LouFerignoDemon]

Originally Posted by SSJ4_Mikael

In SWII Galactus were at full power when confronting the Beyonder ...
But back then Beyonder was the most powerful being:
http://img82.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1984wo1.jpg

To answer your question:
Celestial's are manifastations of Eternity's meditation:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3...8801014xb7.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4...8801015yl1.jpg

Actually, we've never seen Galactus fully powered, because that would in effect, negate his hunger. And since his hunger literally drains something like over half his power at any given time, I'd say we've NEVER seen his full power.

[LivingTribunal]

Originally Posted by Mistress Gluon

Actually, we've never seen Galactus fully powered, because that would in effect, negate his hunger. And since his hunger literally drains something like over half his power at any given time, I'd say we've NEVER seen his full power.

Agreed

[Silicon Surfer]

AFAIK they have deliberately never said anything about what the Celestials are or where they come from but they are in Galactus' class if not greater.

[Brainiac 8]

Originally Posted by Wiki

The Celestials are among the most powerful physical entities in the Marvel Universe. They have shown the ability to permanently seal off entire dimensions, create super-powered beings such as the Godstalkers, reduce the Asgardian construct known as the Destroyer to slag even while it was imbued with the life force of all the gods of Asgard (with the exception of Thor), and move multiple planets across galactic distances at will. The highly evolved cosmic cube beings Kosmos and Kubik — beings who wield nearly incalculable energy, matter and reality manipulation powers — stated that a single Celestial possesses "power many orders of magnitude beyond our own." [12]
The Celestial's armor can withstand planet-pulverizing forces and, in most instances, even when they have been injured they can repair the damage in seconds. The Celestial armor has been damaged with varying degrees of success by the Invisible Woman, [13] Thor, [14] and the Odinsword-wielding Destroyer construct. [15].
It has been suggested by Reed Richards that the Celestial's source of power is Hyperspace itself — the source of energy in the Marvel Universe — a suggestion confirmed by the Invisible Woman's ability to completely disrupt Exitar's physical form with her hyperspace-derived force fields. [16]

They are among the strongest in the galaxy, completely out of Galactus' league. Heck, they created most of the lifeforms on Earth.

[Vanguard07]

having created the life forms on earth in no way implies that they're more powerful than Galactus.
He, without a doubt, could have done the same.

[Vanguard07]

All of them no. One of them at a time I think he could take provided he wasnt starving.

[Vanguard07]

Low end gods that by cosmic standards arent very impressive yes.

[Brainiac 8]

Beware the groove!

[Silicon Surfer]

At one point the Elders were considered far above the Gods of Earth including Odin.

[LivingTribunal]

Originally Posted by Silicon Surfer

At one point the Elders were considered far above the Gods of Earth including Odin.

When
Its said they are over 5 billion years old
Odin/Destroyer got destroyed by the Celestials

[Vanguard07]

It's all too inconsistant.
First the Beyonder can beat all the Celestials at once with no difficulty at all.
Next the Beyonder is a little retard b**** who's lower down the chain than Galactus.
Same sort of thing with the Elders.
Champion in his first appearance was stated to be significantly more powerful than Galactus himself. Later Galactus took on all the elders at once and ate half of them.
Later still She-hulk took down the champ in hand to hand combat (one of the stupidest things ever).

I long since decided to just come up with a best guess and stick with it no matter what.
Therefor 1 Celestial<Galactus.
All the Celestials>Galactus.
Thats enough for me.

[Brainiac 8]

I like the way you look at it.

Inconsistency plays a major part in knowing who is really more powerful than who...because at some point they all can beat all of each other.

[Vanguard07]

Originally Posted by Brainiac 8

I like the way you look at it.

I like the way I look at boobs.

[Brainiac 8]

Originally Posted by Vanguard07

I like the way I look at boobs.

I get boobs anytime I want, I don't have to just look at them.

[LivingTribunal]

Originally Posted by Vanguard07

It's all too inconsistant.
First the Beyonder can beat all the Celestials at once with no difficulty at all.
Next the Beyonder is a little retard b**** who's lower down the chain than Galactus.
Same sort of thing with the Elders.
Champion in his first appearance was stated to be significantly more powerful than Galactus himself. Later Galactus took on all the elders at once and ate half of them.
Later still She-hulk took down the champ in hand to hand combat (one of the stupidest things ever).

I long since decided to just come up with a best guess and stick with it no matter what.
Therefor 1 Celestial<Galactus.
All the Celestials>Galactus.
Thats enough for me.

Agreed.
The pre and post-recton Beyonder. Such a controversial character. All his feats were illusions.

I think only LT and Eternity could defeat all of the Celestials

[Silicon Surfer]

Not to mention that in the first Secret Wars the Beyonder smacked down Galactus with little effort. This was a Galactus that was definately not taking a dive. The only answer is that the Beyonder that was shown to be a cosmic cube was a fake. The retcon just doesn't make any sense.

[LouFerignoDemon]

Originally Posted by Silicon Surfer

Not to mention that in the first Secret Wars the Beyonder smacked down Galactus with little effort. This was a Galactus that was definately not taking a dive. The only answer is that the Beyonder that was shown to be a cosmic cube was a fake. The retcon just doesn't make any sense.

We have to keep in mind, Galactus hadn't eaten. But, I agree.
The Beyonder was capable of removing his Hunger, after all.

[LivingTribunal]

Originally Posted by Mistress Gluon

We have to keep in mind, Galactus hadn't eaten. But, I agree.
The Beyonder was capable of removing his Hunger, after all.

Pre recton Beyonder>Galactus
Post recton Beyonder, his feats were illusions

[Silicon Surfer]

Originally Posted by LivingTribunal

Pre recton Beyonder>Galactus
Post recton Beyonder, his feats were illusions

Unless Eternity and Death are subject to the illusion that explanation will not work. The Beyonder killed and then resurrected Death. In another incident Eternity and Mephisto trapped a great quantity of the Beyonders energy and they were going to use it to kill the Beyonder but it would require the sacrifice of 1/3 of the essence of Eternity or in other words 1/3 of the MU would be destroyed in the process. This does not even remotely match up with the concept of the Beyonder as a being of far lesser magnitude than a celestial.