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Old 09-25-2007, 10:57 AM   #1
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I'm not sure if this was talked about in the episode thread, but I'm not about to read through 24 pages to find out, and I thought an official thread might be useful and fun anyway :P

First off, I'm not sure if some of you remember, I made a prediction back in season 1 that Peter would turn into a bad guy because he would absorb Nikki/Jessica's split personality and gain an evil side...some of you said that her split personality wasn't her power, but I beg to differ and am revisiting my old theory here.

My prediction is that this hooded "assassin" if you will is Peter and he is possibly working for the Linderman group (either Linderman is still alive because he regenerated, or a new character will be introduced as taking over the company), or he is working for someone else entirely. My reason for this is that Peter developed an evil side by coming into proximity with Nikki. This would also explain how the hooded figure wasn't laying on the ground after he fell off the building with Hiro's father.

Further playing off this, I think this evil side is who Molly is seeing in her dreams, because if you remember, she said he can see her too, and Peter would have gained her power through proximity as well, and also Micah's and DL's. This could also explain why Peter was chained up in that storage container...he was trying to hide himself so his evil half would stop killing. This might also explain the "symbol" necklace, someone who hired Peter to kill could have given it to him.

Anyway, that's my call as far as the hooded figure is concerned. Any thoughts or predictions?

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Old 09-25-2007, 11:07 AM   #2
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Yeah. Peter obviously has amnesia. That's just one thing that blows your theory out of the water.

Secondly, I believe the hooded figure was lying under Nakamura. I don't think he disappeared.

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:08 PM   #3
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Personally I think its Kensi. There has to be more to this story than Hiro just goes back in time to help Kensi become this legendary character. It's obviously his symbol and very similar build to the hooded character. Plus wasn't early revelations of the new bad guy that he would be played by a bad guy from the Alias series?

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:14 PM   #4
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Um Did you not watch the Episode? Peter was found with amnesia so your theory is out of the water. Plus Nakamura knew the guy like he was a friend or part of the company

He Said "Out of all of us I didn't think it would be you"

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:35 PM   #5
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Um, yeah I did watch the episode.

I fail to see how the amnesia would effect my theory at all. Nikki never had a recollection of what Jessica did right? So Peter can't remember anything...how does that stop him from being manipulated by someone into killing people?

Also, yes, Nakamura knew him...he knew Peter and Nathan's father, why wouldn't he know who his sons were?

Also, maybe noone is controlling Peter...perhaps his "dark side" remembers everything the way Jessica did for Nikki, and is killing off all the people who were in on the bomb conspiracy that almost killed Peter to begin with...The motive is already there, and the 2 things you said were reasons he COULDN'T be the hooded figure are actually more solid reasons as to why he COULD be. To further add to plot twists and confuse people, perhaps Peter's new dark side found out his dad and Charles Deveaux were in on the conspiracy, and traveled back in time to kill them? He wouldn't neccissarily be a "Bad Guy" for it as much as just his dark side seeking vengeance. Just throwing my zainy thoughts out there. :P

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Dude he knew it was one of the 9 Partners that formed this evil Group. Peter was not one of them so your idea is pretty much shot.

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My prediction is that this hooded "assassin" if you will is Peter and he is possibly working for the Linderman group (either Linderman is still alive because he regenerated, or a new character will be introduced as taking over the company), or he is working for someone else entirely.
Stopped right there. Actually, stopped the minute you said he was supposed to be the guy. The hooded character was in the group with momma P, daddy P, the old black guy that died in the first few eps, daddy Hiro and the other 5. There is literally NO WAY they could add Peter in there, regardless of all his powers because it would screw the continutity up WAY to much.

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I'm not sure if this was talked about in the episode thread, but I'm not about to read through 24 pages to find out, and I thought an official thread might be useful and fun anyway :P

First off, I'm not sure if some of you remember, I made a prediction back in season 1 that Peter would turn into a bad guy because he would absorb Nikki/Jessica's split personality and gain an evil side...some of you said that her split personality wasn't her power, but I beg to differ and am revisiting my old theory here.

My prediction is that this hooded "assassin" if you will is Peter and he is possibly working for the Linderman group (either Linderman is still alive because he regenerated, or a new character will be introduced as taking over the company), or he is working for someone else entirely. My reason for this is that Peter developed an evil side by coming into proximity with Nikki. This would also explain how the hooded figure wasn't laying on the ground after he fell off the building with Hiro's father.

Further playing off this, I think this evil side is who Molly is seeing in her dreams, because if you remember, she said he can see her too, and Peter would have gained her power through proximity as well, and also Micah's and DL's. This could also explain why Peter was chained up in that storage container...he was trying to hide himself so his evil half would stop killing. This might also explain the "symbol" necklace, someone who hired Peter to kill could have given it to him.

Anyway, that's my call as far as the hooded figure is concerned. Any thoughts or predictions?
First thing, the show made it look like Mr. Sulu got killed shortly before Peter was discovered. Second by your estimation Molly was "seeing" Peter's evil side before Peter ever came into contact with Nikki. Plus the threat is something that's been around for year apparently. If Hiro can't go back in time to save someone, I don't think Peter would be able to go back in time to kill someone.

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I think it is easy to rule out Sylar/Peter/Nathan.

This hooded charecter is obviously someone we have not been introduced to yet, and is part of Lindermans generation as it was basically stated in the episode.

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Very first post on the SHH boards, I have been a quiet observer for quite sometime... Just wanted to add my theory...
The Hooded guy is Nathan..... Nathan bumped into Ando on the street and planted the picture of Hiro's dad in the paper... Nathan walked into the apartment where his mother was and when she left there was her picture on the wall, but Nathan didn't see it? And finally when the "hooded guy" took Hiro's dad off the building he disappeared or, more like, flew away...
Motive? He's angry that his mother and the group she was involved with all had the plan to have Peter blow up the city. He is getting revenge for what he thinks is the death of his brother.

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Very first post on the SHH boards, I have been a quiet observer for quite sometime... Just wanted to add my theory...
The Hooded guy is Nathan..... Nathan bumped into Ando on the street and planted the picture of Hiro's dad in the paper... Nathan walked into the apartment where his mother was and when she left there was her picture on the wall, but Nathan didn't see it? And finally when the "hooded guy" took Hiro's dad off the building he disappeared or, more like, flew away...
Motive? He's angry that his mother and the group she was involved with all had the plan to have Peter blow up the city. He is getting revenge for what he thinks is the death of his brother.

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it's feasible, maybe he did some research on them

but then again, a year ago everyone and their mothers was claiming that Sylar was Nathan/Peter

anyone noticed the similarities between peter's scar and molly's dream pics?

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Very first post on the SHH boards, I have been a quiet observer for quite sometime... Just wanted to add my theory...
The Hooded guy is Nathan..... Nathan bumped into Ando on the street and planted the picture of Hiro's dad in the paper... Nathan walked into the apartment where his mother was and when she left there was her picture on the wall, but Nathan didn't see it? And finally when the "hooded guy" took Hiro's dad off the building he disappeared or, more like, flew away...
Motive? He's angry that his mother and the group she was involved with all had the plan to have Peter blow up the city. He is getting revenge for what he thinks is the death of his brother.

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It sounded like Sulu was talking about a group of unknown baddies or one of the nine.

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It sounded like Sulu was talking about a group of unknown baddies or one of the nine.
he thought that it was one of the other 9... he wasn't sure. He was suprised when the hooded guy was there.

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The Hooded guy is Nathan..... Nathan bumped into Ando on the street and planted the picture of Hiro's dad in the paper... Nathan walked into the apartment where his mother was and when she left there was her picture on the wall, but Nathan didn't see it? And finally when the "hooded guy" took Hiro's dad off the building he disappeared or, more like, flew away...
Motive? He's angry that his mother and the group she was involved with all had the plan to have Peter blow up the city. He is getting revenge for what he thinks is the death of his brother.

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Aah, very good. I agree with you here. It's got to be Nathan OR someone we just havent seen.

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Very first post on the SHH boards, I have been a quiet observer for quite sometime... Just wanted to add my theory...
The Hooded guy is Nathan..... Nathan bumped into Ando on the street and planted the picture of Hiro's dad in the paper... Nathan walked into the apartment where his mother was and when she left there was her picture on the wall, but Nathan didn't see it? And finally when the "hooded guy" took Hiro's dad off the building he disappeared or, more like, flew away...
Motive? He's angry that his mother and the group she was involved with all had the plan to have Peter blow up the city. He is getting revenge for what he thinks is the death of his brother.

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This is good! I was thinking it had to be someone who could fly, but what about when his mother gets attacked?

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Takezo Kensei.

Hiro goes back in time to help him become the "hero" he is.

When Hiro returns and finds that his father was murdered,it's revealed that Takezo was the perp in the hooded jacket.Hiro gets a massive guilt trip knowing he had a hand in helping Kensei become what he is and tries to figure out what went wrong with him.

Takezo can regenerate causing him to age very slowly.This would allow him to become apart of the secret cabal which the likes of the Petrellis,Nakamura,Devaux and Linderman belonged to.

Could have easily survived the fall with his healing factor.I don't think he was the same guy that went after Mama Petrelli though.Makes me think a group of people are going after the old guard.

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Takezo Kensei.

Hiro goes back in time to help him become the "hero" he is.

When Hiro returns and finds that his father was murdered,it's revealed that Takezo was the perp in the hooded jacket.Hiro gets a massive guilt trip knowing he had a hand in helping Kensei become what he is and tries to figure out what went wrong with him.

Takezo can regenerate causing him to age very slowly.This would allow him to become apart of the secret cabal which the likes of the Petrellis,Nakamura,Devaux and Linderman belonged to.

Could have easily survived the fall with his healing factor.I don't think he was the same guy that went after Mama Petrelli though.Makes me think a group of people are going after the old guard.
I'd go with that as well, but with an added twist: Hiro's father is actually still alive. After all, we've been told that we'll find out not only who the original 12 "heroes" were but what their powers are, right? My guess is that Mr. Nakamura's power is the ability to make a clone of himself a la "Multiple Man." That way, even if he is "killed," he's can still be alive elsewhere. Likewise, if Takezo knows this (if he is in fact the hooded man) then perhaps Mr. Nakamura's "death" was a set-up to not only hide him from the real bad guy--Molly's "boogyman"--but to attract Hiro's attention when he returns from the past. Or maybe I'm being too clever by half.

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I'm still betting that the man/woman is someone we have not seen.


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I'd go with that as well, but with an added twist: Hiro's father is actually still alive. After all, we've been told that we'll find out not only who the original 12 "heroes" were but what their powers are, right? My guess is that Mr. Nakamura's power is the ability to make a clone of himself a la "Multiple Man." That way, even if he is "killed," he's can still be alive elsewhere. Likewise, if Takezo knows this (if he is in fact the hooded man) then perhaps Mr. Nakamura's "death" was a set-up to not only hide him from the real bad guy--Molly's "boogyman"--but to attract Hiro's attention when he returns from the past. Or maybe I'm being too clever by half.
Oh er, nice theory. I'd like to see Mr Nakamura create clones of himself

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I'd go with that as well, but with an added twist: Hiro's father is actually still alive. After all, we've been told that we'll find out not only who the original 12 "heroes" were but what their powers are, right? My guess is that Mr. Nakamura's power is the ability to make a clone of himself a la "Multiple Man." That way, even if he is "killed," he's can still be alive elsewhere. Likewise, if Takezo knows this (if he is in fact the hooded man) then perhaps Mr. Nakamura's "death" was a set-up to not only hide him from the real bad guy--Molly's "boogyman"--but to attract Hiro's attention when he returns from the past. Or maybe I'm being too clever by half.
Thanks....

Now I'm going to be disappointed if the show really doesn't turn out this way. Awesome theory.

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Takezo Kensei.

Hiro goes back in time to help him become the "hero" he is.

When Hiro returns and finds that his father was murdered,it's revealed that Takezo was the perp in the hooded jacket.Hiro gets a massive guilt trip knowing he had a hand in helping Kensei become what he is and tries to figure out what went wrong with him.

Takezo can regenerate causing him to age very slowly.This would allow him to become apart of the secret cabal which the likes of the Petrellis,Nakamura,Devaux and Linderman belonged to.

Could have easily survived the fall with his healing factor.I don't think he was the same guy that went after Mama Petrelli though.Makes me think a group of people are going after the old guard.

I agree...I think Kensei goes bad (for some reason) and ages extremely slow (or maybe his regeration prevents aging?) He may be the one killing the others.

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I'd go with that as well, but with an added twist: Hiro's father is actually still alive. After all, we've been told that we'll find out not only who the original 12 "heroes" were but what their powers are, right? My guess is that Mr. Nakamura's power is the ability to make a clone of himself a la "Multiple Man." That way, even if he is "killed," he's can still be alive elsewhere. Likewise, if Takezo knows this (if he is in fact the hooded man) then perhaps Mr. Nakamura's "death" was a set-up to not only hide him from the real bad guy--Molly's "boogyman"--but to attract Hiro's attention when he returns from the past. Or maybe I'm being too clever by half.
liking your theories STAN... the other one i thought was real this is good too real good

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Takezo Kensei.

Hiro goes back in time to help him become the "hero" he is.

When Hiro returns and finds that his father was murdered,it's revealed that Takezo was the perp in the hooded jacket.Hiro gets a massive guilt trip knowing he had a hand in helping Kensei become what he is and tries to figure out what went wrong with him.

Takezo can regenerate causing him to age very slowly.This would allow him to become apart of the secret cabal which the likes of the Petrellis,Nakamura,Devaux and Linderman belonged to.

Could have easily survived the fall with his healing factor.I don't think he was the same guy that went after Mama Petrelli though.Makes me think a group of people are going after the old guard.

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Takezo Kensei.

Hiro goes back in time to help him become the "hero" he is.

When Hiro returns and finds that his father was murdered,it's revealed that Takezo was the perp in the hooded jacket.Hiro gets a massive guilt trip knowing he had a hand in helping Kensei become what he is and tries to figure out what went wrong with him.

Takezo can regenerate causing him to age very slowly.This would allow him to become apart of the secret cabal which the likes of the Petrellis,Nakamura,Devaux and Linderman belonged to.

Could have easily survived the fall with his healing factor.I don't think he was the same guy that went after Mama Petrelli though.Makes me think a group of people are going after the old guard.
This is one of my theories aswell, very nice.

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Kaito being able to clone himself would be an awesome power and explain that he could still be alive.

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