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Old 03-18-2008, 10:51 AM   #1
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Default LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man!

Yes! it just got confirmed and guess what? is sooo effing lame
from the artcile: "For Nicktoons, the interpretation translates into a teen Iron Man, a superhero closer in age to the network's young viewers."

Really the 90's are the golden age for super hero animation, in 2000's every body is trying to make superheors teenagers, i was really hoping that this cartoon will be a good one and was looking forward to it well not anymore!

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Old 03-18-2008, 11:13 AM   #2
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Well that sucks.

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Old 03-18-2008, 11:19 AM   #3
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I am really so freaking sick of this lets take the superheroes to teenage years formula!
its ok for spiderman to be a teenager since the story in the lee ditko comics started with spidey in high school, but its so damn stupid and direspectful to characters like iron man to show him as a teenage superhero.

Whats next? A preschool hulk ? or a middle school thor animated series

Thats just messed up i hope this series gets canceled such a disrespect to marvel characters

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Old 03-18-2008, 12:22 PM   #4
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Whats next? A preschool hulk ? or a middle school thor animated series

Thats just messed up i hope this series gets canceled such a disrespect to marvel characters
Quiet! Or they'll hear you and actually think it's a good idea.

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Old 03-18-2008, 12:29 PM   #5
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I am really so freaking sick of this lets take the superheroes to teenage years formula!
its ok for spiderman to be a teenager since the story in the lee ditko comics started with spidey in high school, but its so damn stupid and direspectful to characters like iron man to show him as a teenage superhero.

Whats next? A preschool hulk ? or a middle school thor animated series

Thats just messed up i hope this series gets canceled such a disrespect to marvel characters
all i could think when reading that was a SHAZAM! series lol and god help us all if anything involving Captain Marvel gets off the ground lol

but ya this is definately lame to say the least, like its been said how is it even possible to think that this kid is going to be able to do this. just a pointless change taking away from the character...unless they pull a teenage drunken binder with tony ill prolly never even catch this now lol

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Old 03-18-2008, 12:45 PM   #6
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I'm going to wait until I see it, it might not be bad.

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Old 03-18-2008, 02:01 PM   #7
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I'm going to wait until I see it, it might not be bad.
I agree, it may be good, have to hold judgement until we see more. :stark

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I am really so freaking sick of this lets take the superheroes to teenage years formula!
its ok for spiderman to be a teenager since the story in the lee ditko comics started with spidey in high school, but its so damn stupid and direspectful to characters like iron man to show him as a teenage superhero.

Whats next? A preschool hulk ? or a middle school thor animated series

Thats just messed up i hope this series gets canceled such a disrespect to marvel characters
I guess Marvel is only concerned about using animation to lure in uninitiated kids. I understand their objective but why do they have to do it at the expense of the fans they already have? One thing I know is that kids don't like being talked down to. Making dumb-down kiddie crap won't win over any new fans. It's also limited thinking. Kids turned on by the movie aren't going to like a completely different cartoon version.

The new kiddie Spider-Man is awful. Anime and goofy Fantastic Four was a flop. Why not make intelligent animation based off the actual storylines from the books? X-Men did this in a water-downed way and it was a hit in the 90's. Quit gearing everything for eight year olds and you'll be surprised at how many kids will be attracted to the product.

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OMG its the Crossing all over again!!!!
Yes, by all means, let's return the character to his lowest point in the past 40 years.

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Old 03-18-2008, 08:01 PM   #9
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I guess Marvel is only concerned about using animation to lure in uninitiated kids. I understand their objective but why do they have to do it at the expense of the fans they already have? One thing I know is that kids don't like being talked down to. Making dumb-down kiddie crap won't win over any new fans. It's also limited thinking. Kids turned on by the movie aren't going to like a completely different cartoon version.

The new kiddie Spider-Man is awful. Anime and goofy Fantastic Four was a flop. Why not make intelligent animation based off the actual storylines from the books? X-Men did this in a water-downed way and it was a hit in the 90's. Quit gearing everything for eight year olds and you'll be surprised at how many kids will be attracted to the product.



Yes, by all means, let's return the character to his lowest point in the past 40 years.
It annoys me as well.
The video game industry learnt that their audience grew up, and made games geared toward more mature audiences.

The comics themselves have gotten more mature, I don't blame them for still marketing to fresh young minds, but give the older fans something they can appreciate as well.
I'm pretty young at 23 compared to some of you guys, and I can't imagine how frustrating it can be!

I remember a while ago hearing they'd start adapting storylines from the comics for their cartoons, there is a lot of good material there to work from.

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A better look at the same pic from the article...

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Old 03-21-2008, 04:39 PM   #11
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I guess Marvel is only concerned about using animation to lure in uninitiated kids. I understand their objective but why do they have to do it at the expense of the fans they already have? One thing I know is that kids don't like being talked down to. Making dumb-down kiddie crap won't win over any new fans. It's also limited thinking. Kids turned on by the movie aren't going to like a completely different cartoon version.

The new kiddie Spider-Man is awful. Anime and goofy Fantastic Four was a flop. Why not make intelligent animation based off the actual storylines from the books? X-Men did this in a water-downed way and it was a hit in the 90's. Quit gearing everything for eight year olds and you'll be surprised at how many kids will be attracted to the product.
1. The fans that Marvel already have are a shrinking and dying fan base. It's by appealing exclusively to the existing and shrinking older teen and adult readership over the last 10 years why Marvel (and DC) comic sales have fallen so damn low.

2. Just because they are making this version of Iron Man a teenager, DOES NOT mean that they will be talking down to the audience. We have no proof that this show will be "dumb-down kiddie crap".

3. The new SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN cartoon is GREAT. And while the show is aimed at kids, just like the other previous Spidey cartoons (except for the MTV Spider-Man series), it is NOT dumbed down. And remember, in the ORIGINAL comics, Spidey started out as a high school student.

4. The recent FF cartoon was only a flop in the States, but it was a HUGE hit everywhere else around the world.

5. I agree with you that making Tony a teenager in this new series is a bad/stupid idea.

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Old 03-23-2008, 09:28 AM   #12
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The concept sounds like a sick and twisted joke...

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Old 05-29-2008, 01:06 AM   #13
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Wow.

Did not see that coming.

After watching the awesome Iron Man movie, I heard something about a new cartoon being made, and I was a little excited: NEW STUFF, YAY.

But I in no way, expected them do a teen Stark...sorta reminds me of Batman Beyond, but then again, I LOVED Batman Beyond, so--and if I remember correctly, never felt that cartoon was kiddie at all. More futuristic dystopia. But then again, that was Bruce Timm & BTAS co. heading, I don't really know who's heading this Iron Man cartoon. And it's on Nicktoons. The only great cartoon on Nicktoons right now--and it is one of the most incredible things ever, on equal footing with the likes of Bruce Timm's aforementioned BTAS and Greg's Gargoyles--is Avatar: the Last Airbender (right there in the title: signs of GENOCIDE--not your average "kid's" show). Actually, I would feel more comfortable if I knew the Avatar team were heading Iron Man (and their Avatar show is ending soon, at least by the end of this year).

The express reason of making Iron Man younger to reach a younger audience? Yeah, LAME. A misguided effort. It works for Spider-Man, because being a teen is part of his character, his history--but, then, you know, he grows up...but you could keep a cartoon or specific comic series--specifically Ultimate Spider-Man--as just teenaged-him, and it would still work, because it's Spider-Man, who debuted as a teen superhero (one of the few who WEREN'T sidekicks to someone else).

But Iron Man...from the movie, they put him forth as a child prodigy/genius, so I do toy at least with a fanfic plotbunny of him developing the armor young--but Iron Man is built through more experience than that, canonically. After another good fic I read, I can see Tony as cocky, if a little lonely and awkward, and that's interesting--but that doesn't make Iron Man. Are we gonna have his heart literally ripped out at a really young age and...that actually kinda disturbs me, I don't know why the thought of a younger age makes it worse. And I will admit, as a Spidey fan, it's kinda interesting to ponder giving his teenage problems and issues and plot points to mini-Stark, apply them to him--but that is, ultimately, Spider-Man, not Iron Man.

I clicked the link, and the image looks weird to me, I'm not sure why. (At least in the art he doesn't look overly teen-ish; maybe slightly skinnier).

Still...I think when it comes around, I'll give the show a shot.

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The formula worked for Superman with Smallville so it should work with Iron Man Armored Adventures. I liked it and found it entertaining.

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Old 03-18-2008, 11:19 AM   #15
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OMG its the Crossing all over again!!!!

I'll probably watch it

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Yikes, I guess that's the rule now. Have a superhero movie then come out with a lame kiddy cartoon version of that character later.

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Just a bad idea from the get go. I wonder what would've happened if Bruce Timm had decided to make Batman: The Teen Years?

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Just a bad idea from the get go. I wonder what would've happened if Bruce Timm had decided to make Batman: The Teen Years?
He did. it was Batman Beyond...


... It did rather well.

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He did. it was Batman Beyond...


... It did rather well.
But that was not a teenage Bruce Wayne.
This series is changing one of the key aspects of Tony Stark's character just so the young kids who watch the show can "relate" to him. Batman the Animated series did not change Bruce Wayne into a teenager, and lots of kids loved it. The main character of animated/kids shows does not need to be young for kids to like them.

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Not sure it being a teen works for the character, but i like Iron Man's design. I won't say it'll sucks until I see an episode to make a final judgement.

I'll check it out since I have the channel.

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But that was not a teenage Bruce Wayne.
This series is changing one of the key aspects of Tony Stark's character just so the young kids who watch the show can "relate" to him. Batman the Animated series did not change Bruce Wayne into a teenager, and lots of kids loved it. The main character of animated/kids shows does not need to be young for kids to like them.
dude, great point

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But that was not a teenage Bruce Wayne.
This series is changing one of the key aspects of Tony Stark's character just so the young kids who watch the show can "relate" to him. Batman the Animated series did not change Bruce Wayne into a teenager, and lots of kids loved it. The main character of animated/kids shows does not need to be young for kids to like them.
Thank you! What's up with all these 'teened down' cartoons? Kids in the 80s & 90s(heck, it seems like pretty much every generation before the new millenium!) grew up with adult superheroes and they sold merchandise. Is there a real correlation with teened down toons and ratings/sales?

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Wow...this is beyond lame. Lame has evolved into ultra-lame or something like that. One of the crappiest things I've ever heard.

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Yes! it just got confirmed and guess what? is sooo effing lame
from the artcile: "For Nicktoons, the interpretation translates into a teen Iron Man, a superhero closer in age to the network's young viewers."

Really the 90's are the golden age for super hero animation, in 2000's every body is trying to make superheors teenagers, i was really hoping that this cartoon will be a good one and was looking forward to it well not anymore!

source: http://www.usatoday.com/life/televis...icktoons_N.htm
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first fisher price spider-man now THIS? NICKTOONS has no busness AT ALL doing marvel super-heroes this had better be as quality as avatar the last airbender

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first fisher price spider-man now THIS? NICKTOONS has no busness AT ALL doing marvel super-heroes this had better be as quality as avatar the last airbender
Actually i hated the spectacular spider-man design at first but they grew up on me i still wish they cna change a bit but storywise it is so true to the lee/ditko era you might wanna give it a chance, the lizard episode topped the lizard episode from the 90's show which i grew up on.

Its understandable for spidey to be in high scholl since in the cannon comics peter became spidey in high school. But a teen iron man is plain retarded, how the **** did he get his armor? an ironman in high schooll??? i mean really i dont see the point, but again this show is made by the same people who made the new fantastic four cartoon which sucked so we shouldnt be surprised at all.

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