Monsters/Living Dinosaurs. Proof?

[WhatA.Tool]

Ive always believed that there are thousands..perhaps millions of undiscovered organisms on earth...

but how about ancient creatures??
why not?
if the Coelacanth can still be around....why not dino's or other sea creatures.

[Monster]

I'm a Monster.

I exist.

[WhatA.Tool]

Originally Posted by Monster

I'm a Monster.

I exist.

wow. lol

[Immortalfire]

Originally Posted by Monster

I'm a Monster.

I exist.

Zoinks!

[Monster]

No, seriously.

There are living "dinosaurs" out there.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...evolution.html

The tuatara survived the ice age, so it seems.

[Corey]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/science/25dino.html

[SuBe]

Brand-New Lizard, Toad, Opossum Found in Brazil

Wednesday, April 30, 2008
By Jeanna Bryner


Miguel Trefaut Rodrigues/USP Universidade de Sao Paulo

The new lizard is adapted for savanna life. The absence of legs and the sharply pointed snout help it move over sandy soil.
The new lizard is adapted for savanna life. The absence of legs and the sharply pointed snout help it move over sandy soil.

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A legless lizard, knobby horned toad and mini-woodpecker have come out of hiding in Brazil, where scientists recently spotted the basket of probable new species.
With a pointed snout and missing legs, the new Bachia lizard species looks like a slithering snake. The new horned toad belongs to the genus Proceratophrys.
The clutch of suspected new species includes 12 others, including eight fish, three reptiles, an amphibian, a mammal and a bird.
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The animals were discovered in wooded grasslands that carpet about 20 percent of Brazil.
Called the Cerrado, the grasslands once covered an area half the size of Europe, though they are now being converted to crop- and ranchlands at twice the rate of the neighboring Amazon rain forest, the researchers say.
It usually takes weeks or months of careful comparative work back in the lab to definitely establish animals as new species, but biologists who spend a lot of time studying a group of animals or a region are often correct when they suspect they've found new species.
The expedition results will be used to support the development of a management plan for a protected area, known as the Serra Geral do Tocantins Ecological Station, within the Cerrado.


"The geographic distribution of some of the species registered is restricted to the area of the ecological station," said Luís Fabio Silveira, a zoologist at the University of São Paulo. "Thus their survival depends on the good management of the protected area and its immediate surroundings."
The scientists also catalogued threatened and rare species, including a small fat-tailed mouse opossum within the genus Thylamys, an amphibian (Corythomantis greeningi) whose skin secretions cause irritation to the eyes and nose, marsh deer, a hyacinth macaw, a Brazilian merganser duck and a three-banded armadillo.
The research was funded by the O Boticário Foundation for Conservation of Nature, with the support of the Research & Conservation of the Cerrado organization.
Copyright © 2008 Imaginova Corp. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Not Dinosaurs, but new species.

[Lord Valumart]

Originally Posted by SupermanBeyond

Not Dinosaurs, but new species.

thing i don;t get it is "The new lizard is adapted for savanna life. The absence of legs and the sharply pointed snout help it move over sandy soil." surely it's a snake

[Leto Atrides]

Originally Posted by Lord Valumart

thing i don;t get it is "The new lizard is adapted for savanna life. The absence of legs and the sharply pointed snout help it move over sandy soil." surely it's a snake

It might be from some other part of the lizards, that evolved to have no legs independently of the snakes.

It's like how sirenians (manatees and dugongs), pinnipeds (seals and walruses) and ceteceans (whales and dolphins) look like they should be closely related but they're from totally different lineages of mammals. Whales are from the same family as deer and pigs, seals in a group with bears and dogs, and manatees with elephants.

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by Lord Valumart

thing i don;t get it is "The new lizard is adapted for savanna life. The absence of legs and the sharply pointed snout help it move over sandy soil." surely it's a snake

its alot thicker then a snake, and it's head is that of a lizard

[redmarvel]

Originally Posted by Lord Valumart

thing i don;t get it is "The new lizard is adapted for savanna life. The absence of legs and the sharply pointed snout help it move over sandy soil." surely it's a snake

A Panda Bear looks like a bear, but it's actually a member of the Raccoon family. Go figure.

[Mr. Wooden Alligator]

Dig deep enough and who knows what you'll find.

[Corey]

Tests Confirm T. Rex Kinship With Birds


By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Published: April 25, 2008

In the first analysis of proteins extracted from dinosaur bones, scientists say they have established more firmly than ever that the closest living relatives of the mighty predator Tyrannosaurus rex are modern birds.


The research, being published Friday in the journal Science, yielded the first molecular data confirming the widely held hypothesis of a close dinosaur-bird ancestry, the American scientific team reported. The link was previously suggested by anatomical similarities.

In fact, the scientists said, T. rex shared more of its genetic makeup with ostriches and chickens than with living reptiles, like alligators. On this basis, the research team has redrawn the family tree of major vertebrate groups, assigning the dinosaur a new place in evolutionary relationships.

Similar molecular tests on tissues from the extinct mastodon confirmed its close genetic link to the elephant, as had been suspected from skeletal affinities.

“Our results at the genetic level basically agree with what has been seen in skeletal data,” John M. Asara of Harvard said in a telephone interview. “There is more than a 90 percent probability that the grouping of T. rex with living birds is real.”

Dr. Asara and Lewis C. Cantley, both of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and Harvard Medical School, processed the proteins from tissue recovered deep in bones of a 68 million-year-old T. rex excavated in 2003 by John R. Horner of Montana State University. Mary H. Schweitzer of North Carolina State University discovered the preserved soft tissues in the bones.

For the molecular study, Dr. Asara and Chris L. Organ, a researcher in evolutionary biology at Harvard, compared the dinosaur protein with similar protein from several dozen species of modern birds, reptiles and other animals.

Dr. Organ was the lead author of the journal report, which concluded that the molecular tests confirmed the prediction that extinct dinosaurs “would show a higher degree of similarity with birds than with other extant vertebrates.” The researchers said they planned to extend their investigations to include comparisons of T. rex protein with more species of birds, reptiles and other dinosaurs.

Dinosaur paleontologists were not surprised by the findings. An accumulation of fossil evidence in recent years had given them increasing confidence in their contention that birds descended from certain dinosaurs.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/sc...in&oref=slogin

[SuperFerret]

Originally Posted by Corey

Tests Confirm T. Rex Kinship With Birds


By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Published: April 25, 2008

In the first analysis of proteins extracted from dinosaur bones, scientists say they have established more firmly than ever that the closest living relatives of the mighty predator Tyrannosaurus rex are modern birds.


The research, being published Friday in the journal Science, yielded the first molecular data confirming the widely held hypothesis of a close dinosaur-bird ancestry, the American scientific team reported. The link was previously suggested by anatomical similarities.

In fact, the scientists said, T. rex shared more of its genetic makeup with ostriches and chickens than with living reptiles, like alligators. On this basis, the research team has redrawn the family tree of major vertebrate groups, assigning the dinosaur a new place in evolutionary relationships.

Similar molecular tests on tissues from the extinct mastodon confirmed its close genetic link to the elephant, as had been suspected from skeletal affinities.

“Our results at the genetic level basically agree with what has been seen in skeletal data,” John M. Asara of Harvard said in a telephone interview. “There is more than a 90 percent probability that the grouping of T. rex with living birds is real.”

Dr. Asara and Lewis C. Cantley, both of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and Harvard Medical School, processed the proteins from tissue recovered deep in bones of a 68 million-year-old T. rex excavated in 2003 by John R. Horner of Montana State University. Mary H. Schweitzer of North Carolina State University discovered the preserved soft tissues in the bones.

For the molecular study, Dr. Asara and Chris L. Organ, a researcher in evolutionary biology at Harvard, compared the dinosaur protein with similar protein from several dozen species of modern birds, reptiles and other animals.

Dr. Organ was the lead author of the journal report, which concluded that the molecular tests confirmed the prediction that extinct dinosaurs “would show a higher degree of similarity with birds than with other extant vertebrates.” The researchers said they planned to extend their investigations to include comparisons of T. rex protein with more species of birds, reptiles and other dinosaurs.

Dinosaur paleontologists were not surprised by the findings. An accumulation of fossil evidence in recent years had given them increasing confidence in their contention that birds descended from certain dinosaurs.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/sc...in&oref=slogin

Are they still confirming that? I thought it was widely accepted as fact.

[gap5ewl]

Isn't there a brontosaurus supposedly living in the congo jungle?

[The Geek Vault]

Originally Posted by gap5ewl

Isn't there a brontosaurus supposedly living in the congo jungle?

Can you find an article on this? It sounds mighty interesting?!?

[spideyboy_1111]

Originally Posted by SuperFerret

Are they still confirming that? I thought it was widely accepted as fact.

science is rarely about facts... it's more about theories and ones that have the hardest time being disproved are what we tend to call fact. but you need alot of data for that

[Magneto29]

Land wise, other than little organisms, I don't think there are much of any large animals hiding out there.

[The Geek Vault]

What about under ground species... I mean way underground ya know? I mean there are extremophiles which are small organisms that can live on volcanoes right? So why not a bigger more evolved type creature under the ground.

[TEDDY]

Isn't there a TEDDY supposedly living in the Hype?

[Asteroid-Man]

Originally Posted by TEDDY

Isn't there a TEDDY supposedly living in the Hype?

Fail.

[TEDDY]

Originally Posted by A-Man

Fail.

YOU FAIL!!!


TEDDY!!!

[Tempest19]

monsters are very real. there's one living underneath your bed

[The Guard]

No. There is no mystery or wonder left on the Earth.

[knowsbleed]