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Old 05-10-2009, 08:09 AM   #1
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I want to know what is really bothering you about the film if anything at all.

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the freakin robo suits, that's what's bothering me. it's like they're trying to turn G.I Joe into transformers

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The only thing that really bothers me is the look of Cobra Commander. He just looks plain bad...not like the ruler of Cobra. That's my ONLY complaint...if they gave him a hood, i'd be totally happy with the film.

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The only thing that really bothers me is the look of Cobra Commander. He just looks plain bad...not like the ruler of Cobra. That's my ONLY complaint...if they gave him a hood, i'd be totally happy with the film.
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How about because it looks like ****.

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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.

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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.
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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.
that pretty much covers it.

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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.


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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.
Pretty much sums it up.

It's pretty obvious that people behind films like this and Transformers are interested moreso in collecting a fat check than making a great film. There's no way in hell the people behind this film can believe their making a great movie.--they'd have to be dense as all hell to think their doing a great job.


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Here are some of my problems with the movie just from trailers alone:

1) Robo-suit: I don't care if Sommer thought they should be futuristic or something; robo-suit is an awful idea because they not only took away the uniqueness of each Joe member, by making them all look pretty much the same. It also trivialize their individual talents because all of them turn into gravity-defying circus acrobats who can dodge missiles on a whim. That scene where both Duke and Ripcord hopping around like jack rabbits and neatly dodged the missiles look ridiculous.

2) Cobra Commander: I don't care if this is an origin of CC or not; the appearance of him inside that jellyfish mask is terrible and rumor of him brainwashing his legion takes away his omnious presence from the cartoon and other media. I know I'll be extremely disappointed in this incarnation of CC.

3) Destro (sans mask): Nuff said.

4) Sommer: From his Mummy and Van Helsing movies, I've never had the impression that he's a good filmmaker. Despite Michael Bay's faults, Bay is eon ahead of Sommer in terms of delivering the goods in his movies. And Bay's Transformers will trump all over Sommer's GI Joe this summer.

5) Script: Everything I heard about this movie so far, there isn't anything I really like. And judging from Sommer's track record, this script will probably be as weak as his other movies.

Honorable mention: Snake Eye's "mouth", Storm Shadow's trench coat, Baroness' goggles.
Spot on.

Also, that kid playing Cobra Commander seems too much of a p***y to be playing him.

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Yeah, that pretty much hits the nail on the head.

I can't believe that I actually had hope for this movie when it was first announced. I remember when they debuted that first pic of Snake Eyes and I got all excited.

How far my hopes have fallen since then. I was never even that big of a GI Joe fan, but I thought, if handled right, it could make a really great movie. But damn... everything... I mean absolutely EVERYTHING about this movie just looks horrible.

Is there anything about this movie other than Snake Eyes that reminds anyone of the cartoon or the comic book? Seriously? I mean, if they took out the Snake Eyes clips from the trailer and didn't show the title at the end, would you even recognize it as a GI Joe movie? I doubt it.

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Robert Knepper should have been Cobra Commander. Vin Diesel should have been Destro, Angelina Jolie should have been the Baroness, and both John Cena and Mark Wahlberg should have been Flint and Duke.

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Robert Knepper should have been Cobra Commander. Vin Diesel should have been Destro, Angelina Jolie should have been the Baroness, and both John Cena and Mark Wahlberg should have been Flint and Duke.
The sad part is the horrible movie in your post probably would have been better than what we're getting.

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So true.
But it would still be a terrible movie right? At least with the cast we have, it's easier to lower your expectations of bad to the point where you might be (emphasis on might) surprised at how bad it may not be (of course still terribly bad).

And the thought of Present Day Angelina Jolie as Baroness is enough to make me nauseous. Wanted was bad enough.

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-I don't like what I've heard about most of the bad guys. Cobra Commander sounds terrible, Destro seems kind of halfassed, and they didn't even try to make Zartan halfway entertaining.

-The black suits are stupid but i'm hoping they'll ultimately be a nonissue in the way that the x-men's uniforms became a nonissue.

Other than some small fanboysih things(like wishing shipwreck, flint, and lady jaye were in it), I dont' have any other major issues. Looks pretty cool to me.

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waited until the DVD release because the trailers didn't do much for me. I'm a big fan of GI Joe going back to my childhood years with Marvel and I even read the new IDW series. This movie..... wow! I guess anyone can make a film in Hollywood. I have never been someone who disses a movie for altering the original book or comic concept because it works better on film, but EVERYTHING changed in this film was for the worse.
I was skeptical going into this when I saw it at the theater. What I can say is that I've never seen a movie quite like that. That's a good thing. However, it was not what I wanted or ever even expected from a G.I. Joe live action movie. Maybe this should've been titled Action Man because it sure as hell wasn't G.I. Joe except in name only. I still need to see it on DVD but... I'm already thinking G.I. Joe deserves a more thought out remake.

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DESTRO - Could they have picked a skinnier Scottish weenie to be Destro?
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RIPCORD - Give me a break. This Wayans guy feels as military as Paris Hilton.
It's not that. Why in the blue-hell change a white character to a black character when you have a full arsenal of black joes waiting in the wings? Stalker? Roadblock? Doc? Alpine?

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BARRONESS ORIGIN STORY - Okay, lady starts killing billions of people just because Duke couldn't save her brother in the Middle East. Yeah, that makes sense.
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STORMSHADOW/SNAKEYE ORIGIN STORY - The first time they face off, we get a flashback of 5 year old ninjas fighting each other? Mkay. Didn't help at all how superhero-esque they looked in costumes.
The flashback was really oddly placed too, wasn't it? Or is it just me? Forget Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow, the entire Snake Eyes story was eliminated and that's the story that pretty much makes G.I. Joe - G.I. Joe. I mean, the entire COBRA organization is tied to HIS time in Vietnam with Storm Shadow and Stalker, further reason for Wayans to be Stalker and not Ripcord. I really didn't give a crap about the whole Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow thing and I thought the fight really failed to meet expectations. If they were hoping for Snake Eyes to be the Wolverine and get a spin-off they really better re-think that. I, at least, was intrigued by Wolverine and the Origins movie. I would have zero interest in a Snake Eyes movie at this point.

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COBRA COMMANDER ORIGIN STORY - Far and away the dumbest origin re-write. A U.S. Army soldier invades a bunker in the Middle East, sees a video about nano-bots, and decides to conquer the world? Okay. The story had already numbed me by then, so I guess I was ready for anything.
Again, the G.I. Joe/Cobra origins story is pretty much centered on Snake Eyes. He killed Baroness' brother in Vietnam by mistake, got tried in a military court of law with Destro as his defense attorney. Once discharged, his family is killed by Cobra Commander's brother in a car crash. HOW CAN THAT BE ELIMINATED AND STILL BE G.I. JOE!!!

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THE TOTAL DISRESPECT FOR A MILITARY THEME - Look, GI Joe has always been about sci-fi and the outrageous, but there were so few characters in this movie who could convince me that they had served any time in our nation's armed forces. Larry Hama's military roots are what made this series a great comic book run to begin with, so I guess they went to the cartoon for inspiration. From the androgynous casting choices, to the college co-ed vibe I got with Scarlett and Ripcord, I think Duke was probably the most realistic casting choice.
A military unit the caliber of G.I. Joe is going to be cocky. It wasn't that they were unmilitarylike that ruined this, it's that there was nothing military about this to even things out. It was like Terminator: Salvation meets American Pie.

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could go on and on about what made this movie a laugher, but I fall back on Richard Donner's original quote about the first Superman movie. He refused to make it unless the studios would allow him to take the fictional legend serious. Audiences had to respect the character as a real person. There were so many cool concepts they could have done for a GI Joe movie. From making it feel realistic instead of cartoony sci-fi, to emphasizing the recruitment of the best Green Berets, Navy Seals, etc to be members of GI Joe. And most important, making the bad guys much cooler!
Oh, there were ALOT better way to go. The best being the only way to go in my opinion. I'm not revealing it though because I know it's correct, so why let it be trashed?

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really could care less if there's a sequel and I'll stick with something like the GI Joe Cobra mini-series by IDW if I want a work of fiction that actually tries not to be a three stooges fest. What a shame. This could have been a great movie in the right hands. As it is, it's destined for another Scooby-Doo run. A laughable attempt from a franchise property with a much bigger budget than its screenplay deserves.
Not as bad as Scooby-Doo, but little to no better than Fantastic Four.

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It's not that. Why in the blue-hell change a white character to a black character when you have a full arsenal of black joes waiting in the wings? Stalker? Roadblock? Doc? Alpine?
Somehow I get the feeling that the fans would not have been terribly happy if any of the characters you mentioned were re-imagined as wisecracking sidekicks played by Marlon Wayans. They picked Ripcord because he is a minor character who fans would not miss if they reimagined him. The only reason Ripcord would have appeared in the movie at all would be because they wanted a blank canvas to draw on, and that's exactly what they did.

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I am upset because of the...
Poor script
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Not staying true to the source material

All of the above.
Since the source material is a way to sell toys, I don't really know I should feel about it. It did suck tho, at least the bootleg I got.
EVen the first Transformers had glimpses of original ides from the old school stuff. Joe didn't have any of that that I saw.

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May as well open this can of worms. What does a "great" GI JOE film look like?

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May as well open this can of worms. What does a "great" GI JOE film look like?
A combination of Indiana Jones (action and daring do, foreign locales, "us versus them", "against the odds feel") and The Incredibles (dynamic action, 70s style hidden bases, etc.). It should have a large scope and epic feel. Imagine the opening to the animated GI Joe movie in live action. Simply stunning.

You know, the biggest problem people have with this film and Transformers is that the bar was obviously set so low from the start. It's as if they intentionally are setting out to make a mediocre film. Especially considering that everyone knows that a "fun and entertaining" action flick doesn't have to equate to a low brow movie.

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A combination of Indiana Jones (action and daring do, foreign locales, "us versus them", "against the odds feel") and The Incredibles (dynamic action, 70s style hidden bases, etc.). It should have a large scope and epic feel. Imagine the opening to the animated GI Joe movie in live action. Simply stunning.
That's pretty vague, actually. Can you be more specific?

So you want:

Dynamic action and "derring do" (which this film clearly has, or does it also need to be cartoony action, since you mentioned THE INCREDIBLES?)
Foreign locales (Which this movie has)
"Us VS Them" villains (which this film clearly has)
Hidden bases (which this movie has, in both The Pit, Cobra's base, and Destro's facility)
Large scope (Check, what with the globetrotting, the hidden bases, the massive battles, etc)
Epic feel (Well, yeah, this feels pretty epic thus far)

I'm iffy on exactly why you think this approach to the concept equals "low brow". And I notice you didn't mention characterization elements, themes, or an exploration of the concept of the military and terrorism when talking about what makes a great GI JOE film.

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That's pretty vague, actually. Can you be more specific?

So you want:

Dynamic action and "derring do" (which this film clearly has, or does it also need to be cartoony action, since you mentioned THE INCREDIBLES?)
Foreign locales (Which this movie has)
"Us VS Them" villains (which this film clearly has)
Hidden bases (which this movie has, in both The Pit, Cobra's base, and Destro's facility)
Large scope (Check, what with the globetrotting, the hidden bases, the massive battles, etc)
Epic feel (Well, yeah, this feels pretty epic thus far)

I'm iffy on exactly why you think this approach to the concept equals "low brow". And I notice you didn't mention characterization elements, themes, or an exploration of the concept of the military and terrorism when talking about what makes a great GI JOE film.
This movie's goal is to be a "fun" actioner in the vein of Transformers, hence the term low brow. The movie can still be a great action adventure fantasy film without being low brow.

Your over thinking GI Joe. They're an elite U.S. military team, albeit a little eccentric, of specialists. Their talents makes them right for the job of taking on a terrorist team of specialist, Cobra. They don't have any special powers which makes their exploits all the more incredible. It's the very same with Indiana Jones; average American joe (school teacher), who fights the forces of evil with his wits, fists and whip.

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