Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread

Spidey-Quad · 03-16-2009, 11:56 AM

Today Raimi let "slip" Spider-Man 4 will have either "A" villain or villains, and he pretty much knows who, it's a matter of how the final script looks.

I say it's Kraven first, and if another is present we finally get Kurt Connors alter-ego the Lizard!

What do you think? Only thing is no "torn" angst allowed!

Tear away!

PumpkinBombxXx · 03-16-2009, 12:28 PM

IM hoping for the Sinister six done in a 2 parter were spidey gets his tail kicked first movie then second one with the help of black cat he wins the day but not before losing Gwen. Kravin and the lizard could be in it i heard that Micky rourke is in talks for a villain could be kravin. I personally wanna see Shocker, Rhino and Scorpion. Looks like they arnt filming 4 and 5 at the same time thoe so i doubt i will get my wish

The Villain · 03-16-2009, 01:25 PM

The Lizard/Kraven or Mysterio perhaps Chameleon.

Immortalfire · 03-16-2009, 01:26 PM

NewYorkSpider · 03-16-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PumpkinBombxXx

IM hoping for the Sinister six done in a 2 parter were spidey gets his tail kicked first movie then second one with the help of black cat he wins the day but not before losing Gwen. Kravin and the lizard could be in it i heard that Micky rourke is in talks for a villain could be kravin. I personally wanna see Shocker, Rhino and Scorpion. Looks like they arnt filming 4 and 5 at the same time thoe so i doubt i will get my wish

Raimi already confirmed that SM4/SM5 weren't getting shot back-to-back.

I think at this point everyone wants The Lizard and another villain of their choosing.

thejon93 · 03-16-2009, 02:54 PM

I'd love to see Chameleon featured as the main villain, possibly played by John Malkovich. I'd just like to see them play him as a petty thug who causes a stir of bad situations: causes Dr. Connors to turn into The Lizard by forcing him to drink/inject his own formula(that Connors was originally going to have thrown away) due to having Connor's family at gunpoint(wife Martha and son Billy) and have Chameleon really kill Martha to provoke Connor's transformation after figuring that the formula does nothing. It'd like to see the story go down much more like this, this time. Instead of having the sweat and innocent battle with the villain, I'd like to see more tension-filled moments with these films and I'd like to see them put more things on the line than just Mary Jane's life as well as the city's(which Spider-Man has saved all three for about three films now). Hit the fans off-guard with something like-so, and you've got yourselves a pretty good movie, right there.

Hobgoblin-demon · 03-16-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PumpkinBombxXx

IM hoping for the Sinister six done in a 2 parter were spidey gets his tail kicked first movie then second one with the help of black cat he wins the day but not before losing Gwen. Kravin and the lizard could be in it i heard that Micky rourke is in talks for a villain could be kravin. I personally wanna see Shocker, Rhino and Scorpion. Looks like they arnt filming 4 and 5 at the same time thoe so i doubt i will get my wish

Why, all they have ever been is thugs with masks on. they never had any personal connection with Peter, nor did they really ever do anything to hurt him. Scorpion on the other hand could work as he is spidey's polar opposite, and you could even right in some stuff that he could do to peter. Electro probably wouldn't work either, I mean how do you think public audiences would respond to the electric guy wearing a corny yellow and green suit with ZZZZ's all over it versus Spider-Man.

Venom 1988 · 03-17-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hobgoblin-demon

Why, all they have ever been is thugs with masks on. they never had any personal connection with Peter, nor did they really ever do anything to hurt him. Scorpion on the other hand could work as he is spidey's polar opposite, and you could even right in some stuff that he could do to peter. Electro probably wouldn't work either, I mean how do you think public audiences would respond to the electric guy wearing a corny yellow and green suit with ZZZZ's all over it versus Spider-Man.

Post is full of fail

zeptron · 03-17-2009, 11:41 AM

If Lizard's not in this I'll be very disappointed. Connors has been seen or mentioned in all 3 three movies. It's time.

Chewy · 03-16-2009, 01:29 PM

It's gotta be Lizard. Although I'd also be satisfied with Scorpion.

Beyond those two, the only villain that I really think definitely needs to pop up in one of these is Electro

FlawlessVictory · 03-16-2009, 02:02 PM

Definitely Lizard and Kraven. And I'm betting Sony was targeting Rourke to play Kraven.

Hectorminator · 03-16-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FlawlessVictory

Definitely Lizard and Kraven. And I'm betting Sony was targeting Rourke to play Kraven.

Yup.

Good news is maybe Rourke'll be busy doing Iron Man 2, so that opens it back up for mah boi Gerard Butler.

WillardNation · 04-03-2009, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hectorminator

Good news is maybe Rourke'll be busy doing Iron Man 2, so that opens it back up for mah boi Gerard Butler.

huh, I hadn't even thought of Butler, He would make a really good Kraven. I like Clive Owen too, I probably wouldn't even care if he kept the accent.

Hectorminator · 04-04-2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WillardNation

huh, I hadn't even thought of Butler, He would make a really good Kraven. I like Clive Owen too, I probably wouldn't even care if he kept the accent.

Yeah, I don't know about Clive Owen. He's not all that rugged. Really classy and British yeah, but not rugged.

Like I don't believe Clive Owen could hunt a kill a lion with his bare hands.

Gerard Butler... yeah he could probably could.

Goran · 03-16-2009, 02:54 PM

Lizliz and Kravey

Spider-ManHero12 · 03-16-2009, 02:56 PM

I think it'll be Lizard and Kraven.

Boom · 03-16-2009, 02:58 PM

The potential for the fight scenes speaks for itself.

Troy_Parker · 03-16-2009, 03:17 PM

Lizard and Mysterio

Carlo Comicus · 03-16-2009, 03:56 PM

I hope Lizard, and maybe the Scorpion.

Adrian89 · 03-31-2009, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlo Comicus

I hope Lizard, and maybe the Scorpion.

Same here. But if not, then Lizard & Kraven would also be a good choice.

PumpkinBombxXx · 03-16-2009, 05:06 PM

Shocker, Rhino and Scorpion work as well as Sandman. Sandman sucks in the comics but he was awsome in the movie much better then venom

PumpkinBombxXx · 03-16-2009, 05:15 PM

Gerard would be Perfect for Kravin. I've always wonderd why doesnt Kravin ever hunt Wolverine i think that would be much better then him and spider-man not that i wouldnt want to see him in SM4

NinjaTurtleFan · 03-16-2009, 05:17 PM

Kraven and Lizard is the ideal way to go. If not them then I would pick Vulture, Scoprion, or Mysterio.

But for so much leadup to Lizard, with having Doc Connors in movie 2 and 3 it's time we see the good doctor become his reptillian-scaley counterpart.

PumpkinBombxXx · 03-16-2009, 05:23 PM

What did Raimi mean when he said that the villain will be one of Stan the Mans or after. What others would there be. none before Stan

Spidey Snooch · 03-17-2009, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PumpkinBombxXx

What did Raimi mean when he said that the villain will be one of Stan the Mans or after. What others would there be.

I think he means they're not gonna create some lame-ass new villain just for the movie. Raimi has always been interested in Spidey's classic baddies, so probably none of the newer ones, either.

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03-16-2009, 11:56 AM	#1
Spidey-Quad Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 831	Official Villian Casting & Discussion Thread Today Raimi let "slip" Spider-Man 4 will have either "A" villain or villains, and he pretty much knows who, it's a matter of how the final script looks. I say it's Kraven first, and if another is present we finally get Kurt Connors alter-ego the Lizard! What do you think? Only thing is no "torn" angst allowed! Tear away!

03-16-2009, 12:28 PM	#2
PumpkinBombxXx Click Click Boom Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 256	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List IM hoping for the Sinister six done in a 2 parter were spidey gets his tail kicked first movie then second one with the help of black cat he wins the day but not before losing Gwen. Kravin and the lizard could be in it i heard that Micky rourke is in talks for a villain could be kravin. I personally wanna see Shocker, Rhino and Scorpion. Looks like they arnt filming 4 and 5 at the same time thoe so i doubt i will get my wish

03-16-2009, 01:25 PM	#3
The Villain Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 555	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List The Lizard/Kraven or Mysterio perhaps Chameleon.

03-16-2009, 01:26 PM	#4
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03-16-2009, 02:54 PM	#6
thejon93 More Than Amazing Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Canada, Dammit! Posts: 4,441	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List I'd love to see Chameleon featured as the main villain, possibly played by John Malkovich. I'd just like to see them play him as a petty thug who causes a stir of bad situations: causes Dr. Connors to turn into The Lizard by forcing him to drink/inject his own formula(that Connors was originally going to have thrown away) due to having Connor's family at gunpoint(wife Martha and son Billy) and have Chameleon really kill Martha to provoke Connor's transformation after figuring that the formula does nothing. It'd like to see the story go down much more like this, this time. Instead of having the sweat and innocent battle with the villain, I'd like to see more tension-filled moments with these films and I'd like to see them put more things on the line than just Mary Jane's life as well as the city's(which Spider-Man has saved all three for about three films now). Hit the fans off-guard with something like-so, and you've got yourselves a pretty good movie, right there. __________________ 'SPIDER-MAN 3' Breaking Benjamin - "I Will Not Bow" VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

03-17-2009, 11:41 AM	#9
zeptron Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,005	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List If Lizard's not in this I'll be very disappointed. Connors has been seen or mentioned in all 3 three movies. It's time.

03-16-2009, 01:29 PM	#10
Chewy REDACTED Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 12,342	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List It's gotta be Lizard. Although I'd also be satisfied with Scorpion. Beyond those two, the only villain that I really think definitely needs to pop up in one of these is Electro

03-16-2009, 02:02 PM	#11
FlawlessVictory Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,303	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List Definitely Lizard and Kraven. And I'm betting Sony was targeting Rourke to play Kraven.

03-16-2009, 02:54 PM	#15
Goran Electric boogaloo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Augusta Vindelicorum Posts: 3,134	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List Lizliz and Kravey __________________ THE SPIDER-BLOG The latest news, the hottest rumors and the most secret insider information on the continuation of the untold story: "THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2" - hitting theaters May 2nd, 2014!!

03-16-2009, 02:56 PM	#16
Spider-ManHero12 Web-Slinger Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 47,310	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List I think it'll be Lizard and Kraven. __________________ A Member of Raimi's "Spider-Man Trilogy" Fans\| The Amazing Spider-man (2012) will be literally AMAZING! *A lean, silent figure slowly fades into the gathering darkness, aware at last that in this world, With Great Power There Must Also come Great Responsiblity - Amazing Fantasy #15* *Happy 50th Anniversary, Spidey! 1962-2012*

03-16-2009, 02:58 PM	#17
Boom I got nothin' Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sitting on the nitpicket fence Posts: 28,104	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List The potential for the fight scenes speaks for itself. __________________ "I had no idea a ninety-year-old man could cave in my chest cavity like that."

03-16-2009, 03:17 PM	#18
Troy_Parker Banned User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: YooKay Posts: 11,242	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List Lizard and Mysterio

03-16-2009, 03:56 PM	#19
Carlo Comicus Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bologna (Italy) Posts: 1,664	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List I hope Lizard, and maybe the Scorpion.

03-16-2009, 05:06 PM	#21
PumpkinBombxXx Click Click Boom Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 256	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List Shocker, Rhino and Scorpion work as well as Sandman. Sandman sucks in the comics but he was awsome in the movie much better then venom

03-16-2009, 05:15 PM	#22
PumpkinBombxXx Click Click Boom Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 256	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List Gerard would be Perfect for Kravin. I've always wonderd why doesnt Kravin ever hunt Wolverine i think that would be much better then him and spider-man not that i wouldnt want to see him in SM4

03-16-2009, 05:17 PM	#23
NinjaTurtleFan Turtle Power! Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,018	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List Kraven and Lizard is the ideal way to go. If not them then I would pick Vulture, Scoprion, or Mysterio. But for so much leadup to Lizard, with having Doc Connors in movie 2 and 3 it's time we see the good doctor become his reptillian-scaley counterpart.

03-16-2009, 05:23 PM	#24
PumpkinBombxXx Click Click Boom Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 256	Re: The Official Villain or Villain(s) List What did Raimi mean when he said that the villain will be one of Stan the Mans or after. What others would there be. none before Stan

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