Superior - Mark Millar & Leinil Yu!

[Drz]

Teaser Posters at CBR!

Seem to me this is Millar's take on Superman. Authority style? All will be revealed in this month's Wizard magazine (number 228)

[Dread]

I am getting a tad tired of the Millar Style of promotions.

I am waiting for some version of this:

"MY **** IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!"

BY MARK MILLAR!

COMICS SHILL TURNS HOLLYWOOD SHILL! YOU'D BE ARROGANT AS ****, TOO!

COME JOIN THIS LATEST MILLAR MEMBER STROKING! SOON TO BE PUT INTO A HARDCOVER FOR NO GOOD REASON BESIDES WE ENJOY MAKING AN EXTRA FIVE DOLLARS! READ MORE STATIC ONE LINER DIALOGUE AND CAN-YOU-TOP-THIS EXAGGERATIONS FROM THE MASTER OF THEM HIMSELF! COMICS DON'T NEED PLOT; THEY JUST NEED EGOMANIAC NAME POWER AND BOMBASTIC ACTION! BE PART OF THE COMIC BOOK MEGAEVENT THAT IGN.COM SAYS, "IS WONDERFUL, NOW WOULD YOU PLEASE LET MY MOTHER GO LIKE YOU PROMISED!"

[fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by Dread

[b]"MY **** IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!"

BY MARK MILLAR!

EDIT: It's the book Millar's entire career has been building towards.

[Drz]

Millar's Icon stuff doesn't have his top notch dialogue compared to Ultimates or Red Son for example, i do believe he drops the F bomb too much, but saying his comics don't have a plot is pretty stretching it. >_>

[Dread]

What I've seen of NEMESIS, and what I read of KICK-ASS, don't exactly want me to rush out and give Millar an Eisner.

[Drz]

Originally Posted by Dread

What I've seen of NEMESIS, and what I read of KICK-ASS, don't exactly want me to rush out and give Millar an Eisner.

I don't believe he's trying to archieve that either. Just giving the comic fans some great comics for the easy price of 2.99 and also giving %50 profits to the artists, which is why he's getting A-Quality artists on his Icon Books, compared to some other loved writers that SHH loves, who don't even give 40% to the artists.

[Dread]

Originally Posted by fifthfiend

Glad someone appreciated the joke.

Originally Posted by Drz

I don't believe he's trying to archieve that either. Just giving the comic fans some great comics for the easy price of 2.99 and also giving %50 profits to the artists, which is why he's getting A-Quality artists on his Icon Books, compared to some other loved writers that SHH loves, who don't even give 40% to the artists.

To each their own. For me, Millar usually works best when he has some sort of filter or focus; when he "goes wild" he gets very repetitive. But, naturally, he sells well on ICON so I imagine I am in the minority.

[Tron Bonne]

Originally Posted by Drz

Seem to me this is Millar's take on Superman. Authority style? All will be revealed in this month's Wizard magazine (number 228)

Yeah, because God knows we need more of that ****.

I would love for Millar to really surprise people and actually make a hero who hasn't gone mad or turned evil or is evil or whatever the **** cynical ideas he comes up with and actually tries to write some heroic stuff. Of course, I doubt that's what it'll be. Probably not, I'm sure we're just in for another deconstruction of a Superman archetype. Yay

[Watchman]

You know I actually hope that this is just straight-up pastiche of Superman. Surprisingly, Millar writes a very good Superman.

[Drz]

Actually Trob i was thinking more about Red Son Superman, since he is "Superior" but yeah gotta wait and see really.

[Dread]

The moral of a lot of Millar stories, from ULTIMATES to KICK-ASS, is that there is no such thing as a genuinely heroic, noble person. Everyone, even the most celebrated bad guy kicker in the world, is an unlikeable d-bag if you really got to know him or her. There are some artists where, after seeing how they draw, you think, "Have they ever met a real woman?" With Millar, it is, "Has he ever met a real person, instead of simply watching Hollywood's rendition of what people are?" He's like an alien who only did partial research on the human race, like a Skrull from the 2006 Fantastic Four cartoon. So, I wouldn't expect SUPERIOR to be a paragon of virtue quite yet. He may start out as one, until the situation (usually led by some conservative a-hole) makes him take off the kid gloves.

The best run of his I've read in a while was his FANTASTIC FOUR run, which was more restrained than something such as KICK-ASS. And even that was hardly stellar.

[Alastor]

Originally Posted by Dread

The moral of a lot of Millar stories, from ULTIMATES to KICK-ASS, is that there is no such thing as a genuinely heroic, noble person. Everyone, even the most celebrated bad guy kicker in the world, is an unlikeable d-bag if you really got to know him or her. There are some artists where, after seeing how they draw, you think, "Have they ever met a real woman?" With Millar, it is, "Has he ever met a real person, instead of simply watching Hollywood's rendition of what people are?" He's like an alien who only did partial research on the human race, like a Skrull from the 2006 Fantastic Four cartoon. So, I wouldn't expect SUPERIOR to be a paragon of virtue quite yet. He may start out as one, until the situation (usually led by some conservative a-hole) makes him take off the kid gloves.

This. I don't think Millar is an awful writer or anything, I enjoyed Ultimates 1 and 2, but this would be my main problem with him. The way he views the medium and characters just doesn't sit right with me sometimes. I don't want my heroes to be perfect, but making them D-bags isnt really adding much depth to a character.

[Drz]

Thor was a hero in the Ultimate universe, and he even saw what Nick Fury was planning. Sure Thor pretty much demanded Bush to donate cash to Green Peace and whatnot, but Thor was one true hero of the Ultimate Universe.

[kguillou]

You gotta hand it to Millar, say what you will but he sure as hell knows how to market his own work. Thats why Hollywood loves his work.

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, you have to give him that much. He's figured out that if you act the rock star part, you get the rock star attention and hype, positive or otherwise. It'll be interesting to see if Hollywood is still so love with him after Kick-Ass under performed in the box office. And, yes, Drz, I know that DVD sales could change that, but as far as the box office and the right now, it did underwhelming numbers.

[Drz]

28 million budget movie making 90 million (and rising up) world wide is a bad thing now?

[Tron Bonne]

I know I shouldn't have said anything, it always leads to something like this when it's related to Millar...

The movie had a 30 million dollar budget and was independently financed. It was bought by Lionsgates for about 20 million, and the marketing was probably around 20-25 million (which I believe is the considered average for budgeting a movie), so we're looking at it needing to make around 70 million to break even, which means it's not even made it's full budget yet theatrically. So, unless those numbers are totally off, it under performed. At best, even if those numbers are slightly off, it's just now breaking even with its budget or making a small bit of profit

Didn't we go over this once anyway?

[Drz]

Still you're excepting a small independed movie to become a major box office hit? Theres a good difference between 28 million flick to something like Wanted which had a 75 million budget. Kick-Ass numbers are still rising, so why looking at this so pessimisticly? The Box Office in US, while presumebly disappointing, is still fairly solid and good.

What does this have to do with Superior again may i ask?

[Tron Bonne]

Originally Posted by Drz

Still you're excepting a small independed movie to become a major box office hit? Theres a good difference between 28 million flick to something like Wanted which had a 75 million budget. Kick-Ass numbers are still rising, so why looking at this so pessimisticly? The Box Office in US, while presumebly disappointing, is still fairly solid and good.

Are you kidding me, there was all kinds of people expecting Kick-Ass to take off and be a big hit based on the runaway success of Wanted. I mean, hell, one of the reasons they were able to get their funds for the movie was because of Wanted's huge success (30 million is a pretty big amount for an fully independently financed film).

$45 for the US box office is not solid, it's pretty low really. And Kick-Ass is mostly dead at the box office. It's moved out of most theaters and the home media release will probably follow later. At the most it'll make another 10 million, but I highly doubt it. Besides, this has nothing to do with my expectations anyhow.

What does this have to do with Superior again may i ask?

Nothing, but if you'll notice I was responding to something said about Hollywood loving him. One of the big reasons he had this eye on him was this huge success of Wanted, and no matter how hard you want rationalize it, Kick-Ass was not the success studios and people were assuming. I just wonder how well Hollywood will love Millar since that movie under performed.

[Drz]

Originally Posted by Tron Bonne

Are you kidding me, there was all kinds of people expecting Kick-Ass to take off and be a big hit based on the runaway success of Wanted. I mean, hell, one of the reasons they were able to get their funds for the movie was because of Wanted's huge success (30 million is a pretty big amount for an fully independently financed film).

$45 for the US box office is not solid, it's pretty low really. And Kick-Ass is mostly dead at the box office. It's moved out of most theaters and the home media release will probably follow later. At the most it'll make another 10 million, but I highly doubt it. Besides, this has nothing to do with my expectations anyhow.

I don't know who these people we're who excepted it to follow Wanted's success, but if we're talking about the god damn comic book fans, then no. Their opinions mean NOTHING.

Kick-Ass is still going world wide and is actually opening in some places, it took its while to get to Spain, Italy and so worth. Not sure did it get to Japan yet.

[Tron Bonne]

EDIT: Just...nevermind

[roach]

Originally Posted by Drz

I don't know who these people we're who excepted it to follow Wanted's success, but if we're talking about the god damn comic book fans, then no. Their opinions mean NOTHING.

Kick-Ass is still going world wide and is actually opening in some places, it took its while to get to Spain, Italy and so worth. Not sure did it get to Japan yet.

The studio and pretty much everyone attached to the flick. It was all in the trades how this movie was going to be big. And while it maybe just releasing overseas it is also going up against summer power movies.This movie's box office isnt rising..its trickling. Funny how he was the one who said KA2 was green lit and the cast and crew that no such thing has happened.

And Superior---its how Millar feels towards everyone

[kguillou]

Kick Ass did very well AND was a #1 film at the box office. I'd say the studios are quite happy with Millar. Of course, it could have done better but it did good enough for the movie studio's to have faith in Millar's work. I'm willing to bet we'll see a Nemesis movie announced fairly soon.

[Gilpesh]

One ad you'll never see for a future Millar story?


"This summer...... Mark Millar...... HAS A POINT!"

[Drz]

Millar says how Red Son fans will love Superior. This should be further proof that this is Millar's take on Superman with a Red Son style take.