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Old 10-11-2010, 03:44 AM   #1
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Default How should Superman fight?

In the new film we know he will be doing a lot more than just lifting things so the question is how would you like a Superman fight to be interpreted on film?

Me personally I would like it to be quick and brutal, two power houses going at it. When Superman smashes into a foe with Super strength I want that blow to impact the environment around them. I want Superman to also utilise his speed and other abilities in combat, any anime and manga fan surely remembers Dragonball and how fights were depicted on the anime. How the fights were fast to the point of both fighters could not be seen by people below their level, thatís the kind of thing I would like. For instance I would like Superman to be fighting a Superpowered foe and Lois to be watching or trying to watch but she cant follow the fight all she can hear is the sound from the fight and see the impact it is having around her.

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Old 10-11-2010, 03:51 AM   #2
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Raw singular power blows, look competely untrained (yet have a raw deliberate efficiency to his technique, because he's never had to know how to fight with efficiency due to possessing boundless power). Single shots without a thought for maintaining balance for a second shot.

Uses powers he has at his disposal, rather than your typical combat style. i.e. Fly into spear tackle. Relies more on speed and reaction for combination attacks (when they occur) rather than an efficent fighting style which would lead to natural combinations.

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Old 12-05-2010, 08:03 AM   #3
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Raw singular power blows, look competely untrained (yet have a raw deliberate efficiency to his technique, because he's never had to know how to fight with efficiency due to possessing boundless power). Single shots without a thought for maintaining balance for a second shot.

Uses powers he has at his disposal, rather than your typical combat style. i.e. Fly into spear tackle. Relies more on speed and reaction for combination attacks (when they occur) rather than an efficent fighting style which would lead to natural combinations.
agreed 100% He should't hven anu martial arts training because he doesnt need it.

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Old 12-14-2010, 01:51 PM   #4
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agreed 100% He should't hven anu martial arts training because he doesnt need it.
he doesn't need it but he did not start out with any powers as a kid, so i wouldn't be opposed to that he knows some, just a little flare, but brutal, effective and fast, more like a mix of the speed of wing chun but the aggressiveness of kuntao but that it looks untrained and aggressive, like an animal but that he flows, one punch to the next, not one punch... half hour later the 2nd... etc.... etc

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Old 10-11-2010, 04:28 AM   #5
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Superman is actually extremely good with his powers, and his fighting style when done right continues this theme. When he gets a chance to actually cut loose, he tends to favor moves that take advantage of his tremendous strength and he uses his speed for defensive purposes. He should fight more like a brawler than a martial artist because more than anything else he has incredible power.

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Old 10-11-2010, 06:40 AM   #6
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should he fight like Thor Hemsworth said Thor fights like Mike Tyson

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Old 10-11-2010, 07:00 AM   #7
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I want to see a mixture of everything -- raw power, haymakers, super-speed punches and of course his ability to catch Zod's (or whoever's) punches and crush their fists, single-handedly. When he lets loose, the audience should be ready to crap themselves.

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I want to see a mixture of everything -- raw power, haymakers, super-speed punches and of course his ability to catch Zod's (or whoever's) punches and crush their fists, single-handedly. When he lets loose, the audience should be ready to crap themselves.

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Old 10-11-2010, 07:00 AM   #9
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no martial arts.no matrix fighting style.

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Old 10-11-2010, 08:10 AM   #10
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Well, aside from the martial arts-stuff, Matrix has some VERY Superman'esque aerial fights imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBMuZ...eature=related


Definitely prefer Smith's brawling style here.

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no martial arts.no matrix fighting style.
Ditto. Superman isn't about precision or timing or that kind of thing. Superman is about force and power. That said, he shouldn't be brutal, at least not until he's really pressed. There's got the be some sense of restraint to illustrate just how powerful he is and just how good a hero he is.

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Old 11-13-2010, 01:45 AM   #12
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It would depend on his backstory, how old he is and who he is fighting. Some incarnations of Superman / Clark are quite worldly, so it wouldn't be very surprising if he picked up some martial arts by the time he's a reporter in Metropolis.

This does raise some interesting questions though. Especially if he were to take on other Kryptonians. Zod being a career soldier would presumably be well trained in hand to hand combat.

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Old 11-13-2010, 03:41 AM   #13
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superman doesn't really need any fighting style.

he will look awesome doing any sort of simply punch to the face or chest and the other guy flying back into a building.

no need for any martial arts.
i want to see flying punches, and I want to see superman take off from a start position and then fly into someone, much like how he does in Superman 3, the junkyard battle.

just watch the junkyard battle to see how you can film a fight.

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Old 11-13-2010, 09:49 AM   #14
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Personally I'd probably handle it like he's never had to fight in his life - unwieldly and inexperienced at first, but gradually getting the hang of it. It'd help to have an earlier scene of Clark or Superman at the Ace O'Clubs and have one of Bibbo's old fights playing on the tube, then later on when it comes down to the climactic bare-knuckles super-brawling, he makes like Bibbo with the entire city getting ringside seats. Y'know, the old "set it up/pay it off" bit.

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i'd love to see him use his heat vision quite a bit (not just once or twice) and while i think he should throw mostly punches, i also think he should throw kicks as well. Superman is supposed to be an advanced alien who can learn quickly, so this means he could probably watch a school of martial artists for a night, learn half of their techniques just by watching them then master them within the week without even using his super strength. i'd like to see him stick with the more powerhouse type moves, but i also wouldn't mind seeing him go Dragon Ball Z on someone as well.

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i'd love to see him use his heat vision quite a bit (not just once or twice) and while i think he should throw mostly punches, i also think he should throw kicks as well. Superman is supposed to be an advanced alien who can learn quickly, so this means he could probably watch a school of martial artists for a night, learn half of their techniques just by watching them then master them within the week without even using his super strength. i'd like to see him stick with the more powerhouse type moves, but i also wouldn't mind seeing him go Dragon Ball Z on someone as well.
This is true. Superman can learn things in seconds.

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Whatever they do please avoid the "one-punch wonder" that Smallville employs. I realize it's because of Budget but just having one guy punch the other guy a long distance then repeat it over and over again isn't very interesting. A mix of greco-roman wrestling it supes is fighting something larger than him, like something the size of the hulk. Quick movements, lots of counters. Nothing martial artsy but intricate. Watch the Doc Ock and Spidey fight in slow motion and you'll realize how detailed the fight was. That's the level of detail i'd like.

Sure you'll get the big punches and throws but not on every blow. He should change techniques depending on who or what's he's up against. Example, fighting a Transform-sized robot, he'd use speed, heat vision, freeze breadth, punches etc. However fighting someone his size with his powers would be different than fighting someone like the Hulk/Abomination or someone with a different powerset. That's something i hope they explorre in the film. Putting him up against various threats with different powersets and seeing him adapt and use his powers intelligently/inventively to defeat a wide variety of threats. That to me is far more interesting than just seeing him brawl with someone who shares his powers.

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He should move to disarm and capture normal people when he fights them and brawls when he fights opponents of equal power.

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i'd love to see him use his heat vision quite a bit (not just once or twice) and while i think he should throw mostly punches, i also think he should throw kicks as well. Superman is supposed to be an advanced alien who can learn quickly, so this means he could probably watch a school of martial artists for a night, learn half of their techniques just by watching them then master them within the week without even using his super strength. i'd like to see him stick with the more powerhouse type moves, but i also wouldn't mind seeing him go Dragon Ball Z on someone as well.
This is one element of Superman that seems to have been largely forgotten. Kryptonians had developed to the point of perfection in mind and body. Even without the effect of the yellow sun Kal-el/Clark is superior to any inhabitant of Earth both physically and mentally.

I agree with every point you make about the fighting style of Superman, but re. heat vision...I to would love to see him use it more often and in coordination with his other powers......however....it would need to be restricted to non-living opponents, i.e. robots, weapons, hardware etc.. Superman would never use it on anyone that it would harm, and for those that it would not harm, it becomes useless.

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Does Superman kick? Or is just punches and headlocks?

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Does Superman kick? Or is just punches and headlocks?
I think he can and should do anything he needs to, given the situation. He crushed Brainiac's skull at the end of WHTTMOT by stepping on it.

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Absolutely. Part of his technique should be trying to outsmart the villain with his next counter-move. Not too many one punch power blows, but it would be sick if the villain was super-speeding at him and Supes used his micro-vision to ensure people are far enough away from the city and then stop Zod in his tracks with a blow to the head that's so powerful it literally shakes the buildings all around him and shatters windows from the force it gives off... sort of like a sonic boom from the impact.

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Superman threw a kick in Superman 2. albiet, not a very convincing one....he thew one. i don't see why he shouldn't kick. in a desperate time when he NEEDS to use everything in his arsenal he should kick, headbutt, elbow, knee....whatever he needs to do to keep Metropolis safe.

for the lesser opponents, he should stick with the punches...but for the more complicated and challenging enemies, he should break everything out and show that he's more than just a brawler. it seems they're trying to make Superman more dimensional so that should include his fighting arsenal as well...

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