The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots...

iGiFF · 03-18-2011, 06:45 PM

To reboot one franchise in this continuity would screw up continuity... and to reboot one franchise would'nt you have to reboot all the other franchises? Just saying, thats why I beleive we will only see recasts. Unless Marvel one day decides to scrap everything they have done...

JAK® · 03-19-2011, 03:02 PM

Unless they decide to drop the whole shared universe idea.

Chewy · 03-19-2011, 03:34 PM

Not really. The Marvel Universe has been going strong for 40+ years and characters get rebooted from time to time.

But hopefully it means that instead of "reboot and retell origin" we'll get "recast and move character's story forward"

Spider-Vader · 03-19-2011, 03:40 PM

They could easily reboot the whole universe. I feel that's what they'll do when they FINALLY get the rights to Ghost Rider, Blade, FF, X-Men & Spidey back.

Aztec · 03-19-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

They could easily reboot the whole universe. I feel that's what they'll do when they FINALLY get the rights to Ghost Rider, Blade, FF, X-Men & Spidey back.

I wouldn't hold my breath for Spidey or X-Men...

Spider-Vader · 03-19-2011, 04:08 PM

Fox & Sony will give up the rights eventually. If they don't do that, I think Disney will just buy back the rights.

The Morningstar · 03-24-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

Fox & Sony will give up the rights eventually. If they don't do that, I think Disney will just buy back the rights.

Why would they give up the rights to properties that are basically licenses to print money?

And Disney don't have unlimited resources. It will take an awful lot of $$$ to buy those rights back. Unless the properties become toxic, which i doubt they will.

Chewy · 03-24-2011, 10:04 AM

They will eventually get the rights back to everyone but Spidey and the X-Men. I think Fantastic Four will be the next rights they reclaim.

GammaAzazel · 03-25-2011, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Morningstar

Why would they give up the rights to properties that are basically licenses to print money?

And Disney don't have unlimited resources. It will take an awful lot of $$$ to buy those rights back. Unless the properties become toxic, which i doubt they will.

If disney was "hurtin'" for the rights, they could buy them back. Easy. Disney practically does have unlimited resources, they own the air we breathe for christ sake, lol.

DieSmiling · 03-26-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GammaAzazel

If disney was "hurtin'" for the rights, they could buy them back. Easy. Disney practically does have unlimited resources, they own the air we breathe for christ sake, lol.

It would literally take Sony going bankrupt for them to give up Spider-Man. Like, literally.

Spider-Vader · 03-27-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Morningstar

Why would they give up the rights to properties that are basically licenses to print money?

And Disney don't have unlimited resources. It will take an awful lot of $$$ to buy those rights back. Unless the properties become toxic, which i doubt they will.

I think DD & FF were. But Fox is desperate enough to keep them both.

R_Hythlodeus · 03-27-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

I think DD & FF were. But Fox is desperate enough to keep them both.

My fear is, Fox rebooting those franchise might lessen the interest in those characters for a long, long time. When they are finally giving the rights back and Marvel could do those movies, no one in the GA will probably want to see it.
Same goes for Spider-Man.

The Cocreator · 03-19-2011, 04:10 PM

They can easily reboot their films and make them stay in continuity with the rest of the series, for example, they could reboot hulk again and if they made it a prequel to avengers it would still work, but i hope they mantain this shared universe for a little while more. Marvel can have other characters rights back but they wouldn't have to reboot the whole chared universe, i would only accept that if they were to make fantastic four the first costumed heroes.

Silvermoth · 03-19-2011, 05:32 PM

I don't think they'll be that concerned about continuity. If they need to reboot things, they'll do that. Frankly if they really need to reboot things I would want them to do it.

kedrell · 03-24-2011, 09:45 AM

You may be right about reboots(for quite a while at least) but sometimes I think I'd still like to see something like an Elseworlds one shot movie(or even trilogy) that is explained as such and so wouldn't mess with continuity. I'm still hoping for a proper Hulk origin movie and with existing continuity as it is, it'd have to be done in an Elseworlds fashion.

JAK® · 03-26-2011, 08:56 AM

Either that, or comic book movies become a dead genre like Westerns. In which case, nobody will want it.

ClarkLuther55 · 03-26-2011, 03:34 PM

I doubt this is a real concern for them. Reboots of successful franchises generally shouldn't be made without a good number of years in between. The Incredible Hulk and Nolan's Superman were only made because the previous movie screwed things up and failed to launch a series. The Amazing Spider-Man is being made because Sony doesn't want to lose the rights.

I think it goes without saying that Marvel doesn't intend to screw things up. So the whole prospect of reboots is just way off.

kedrell · 03-26-2011, 03:45 PM

I don't think any studio ever intends to screw things up. They don't approach it with the mindset of "Hey, here's an idea! Let's make a s***y movie. That'll sell tickets!". More likely it's just that either they don't respect the material enough from the get go or they just don't understand it's appeal.

Danalys · 03-28-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kedrell

I don't think any studio ever intends to screw things up. They don't approach it with the mindset of "Hey, here's an idea! Let's make a s***y movie. That'll sell tickets!". More likely it's just that either they don't respect the material enough from the get go or they just don't understand it's appeal.

there is the lack of respect, then pressure from parents who have no respect, then the lure of toy sales. this leads to boom and bust. pixar showed another way and marvel have learned from their example.

R_Hythlodeus · 03-26-2011, 03:57 PM

well, we can be sure that Marvel Entertainment respests the material and understand it's appeal, so the risk that they screw up is pretty small.

kedrell · 03-27-2011, 02:33 PM

Well, smaller than just about any other studio's chances of screwing it up I'd say.

kedrell · 03-28-2011, 04:47 PM

That's where the concept of the MCU will really pay off. Sure, people might get tired of bad Spidey, X-men, FF, DD movies due to Fox & Sony screwing them up too much for too long but it's not like they'd need immediate solo films once they come back into the fold over at Disney. They can still show up though(hopefully only when there's a good reason story-wise for them to do so).

Lord · 08-29-2011, 05:33 PM

One of the good thing about marvel comics is that unlike DC they're not making a reboot every 25 years, they retcon some things and that's what i like about it

herolee10 · 08-29-2011, 05:43 PM

Well they could go about it the way Warner Bros. did with SR and BF, where those films had a shared some type of continuity with the films before them respectively while still adding a new look and stuff to it.

Kirmit · 08-29-2011, 05:46 PM

The individual movies can be rebooted as long as the elements that are important to the shared universe are kept.

03-18-2011, 06:45 PM	#1
iGiFF Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 351	The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... To reboot one franchise in this continuity would screw up continuity... and to reboot one franchise would'nt you have to reboot all the other franchises? Just saying, thats why I beleive we will only see recasts. Unless Marvel one day decides to scrap everything they have done...

03-19-2011, 03:02 PM	#2
JAK® Upstart Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,211	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... Unless they decide to drop the whole shared universe idea. __________________ Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: You are now breathing manually. JAK®

03-19-2011, 03:34 PM	#3
Chewy REDACTED Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 12,389	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... Not really. The Marvel Universe has been going strong for 40+ years and characters get rebooted from time to time. But hopefully it means that instead of "reboot and retell origin" we'll get "recast and move character's story forward"

03-19-2011, 03:40 PM	#4
Spider-Vader The Mandalore Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 11,477	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... They could easily reboot the whole universe. I feel that's what they'll do when they FINALLY get the rights to Ghost Rider, Blade, FF, X-Men & Spidey back. __________________ Looogaan! We've missed you! Weapon X hasn't been the same without 'cha! Nobody calls me bub anymore!~ Deadpool Avengers, Defenders, Thunderbolts... I make any team better!~ Hawkeye If you see me typo it's because I'm typing on an iPhone. I don't have access to a computer currently & it's hard to type on this thing, sorry.

03-19-2011, 04:08 PM	#6
Spider-Vader The Mandalore Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 11,477	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... Fox & Sony will give up the rights eventually. If they don't do that, I think Disney will just buy back the rights. __________________ Looogaan! We've missed you! Weapon X hasn't been the same without 'cha! Nobody calls me bub anymore!~ Deadpool Avengers, Defenders, Thunderbolts... I make any team better!~ Hawkeye If you see me typo it's because I'm typing on an iPhone. I don't have access to a computer currently & it's hard to type on this thing, sorry.

03-24-2011, 10:04 AM	#8
Chewy REDACTED Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 12,389	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... They will eventually get the rights back to everyone but Spidey and the X-Men. I think Fantastic Four will be the next rights they reclaim.

03-19-2011, 04:10 PM	#13
The Cocreator Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 150	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... They can easily reboot their films and make them stay in continuity with the rest of the series, for example, they could reboot hulk again and if they made it a prequel to avengers it would still work, but i hope they mantain this shared universe for a little while more. Marvel can have other characters rights back but they wouldn't have to reboot the whole chared universe, i would only accept that if they were to make fantastic four the first costumed heroes.

03-19-2011, 05:32 PM	#14
Silvermoth Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 4,646	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... I don't think they'll be that concerned about continuity. If they need to reboot things, they'll do that. Frankly if they really need to reboot things I would want them to do it.

03-24-2011, 09:45 AM	#15
kedrell You'll never Beetus Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Driving coast to coast Posts: 15,348	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... You may be right about reboots(for quite a while at least) but sometimes I think I'd still like to see something like an Elseworlds one shot movie(or even trilogy) that is explained as such and so wouldn't mess with continuity. I'm still hoping for a proper Hulk origin movie and with existing continuity as it is, it'd have to be done in an Elseworlds fashion. __________________ Holding out hope.....

03-26-2011, 08:56 AM	#16
JAK® Upstart Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,211	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... Either that, or comic book movies become a dead genre like Westerns. In which case, nobody will want it. __________________ Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: You are now breathing manually. JAK®

03-26-2011, 03:34 PM	#17
ClarkLuther55 Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,318	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... I doubt this is a real concern for them. Reboots of successful franchises generally shouldn't be made without a good number of years in between. The Incredible Hulk and Nolan's Superman were only made because the previous movie screwed things up and failed to launch a series. The Amazing Spider-Man is being made because Sony doesn't want to lose the rights. I think it goes without saying that Marvel doesn't intend to screw things up. So the whole prospect of reboots is just way off.

03-26-2011, 03:45 PM	#18
kedrell You'll never Beetus Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Driving coast to coast Posts: 15,348	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... I don't think any studio ever intends to screw things up. They don't approach it with the mindset of "Hey, here's an idea! Let's make a s***y movie. That'll sell tickets!". More likely it's just that either they don't respect the material enough from the get go or they just don't understand it's appeal. __________________ Holding out hope.....

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03-27-2011, 02:33 PM	#21
kedrell You'll never Beetus Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Driving coast to coast Posts: 15,348	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... Well, smaller than just about any other studio's chances of screwing it up I'd say. __________________ Holding out hope.....

03-28-2011, 04:47 PM	#22
kedrell You'll never Beetus Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Driving coast to coast Posts: 15,348	Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe pretty much rules out reboots... That's where the concept of the MCU will really pay off. Sure, people might get tired of bad Spidey, X-men, FF, DD movies due to Fox & Sony screwing them up too much for too long but it's not like they'd need immediate solo films once they come back into the fold over at Disney. They can still show up though(hopefully only when there's a good reason story-wise for them to do so). __________________ Holding out hope.....

08-29-2011, 05:33 PM	#23
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