TDKR Story Spoilers and Rumors (NO DISCUSSION)

[Rocketman]

If a mod would like to sticky this, that would be awesome.

This thread will have the sole purpose of rounding up everything we know so far when it comes to the STORY of TDKR. This will include facts, rumors, and just stuff we generally heard around the sets. No discussion necessary.

This thread can be a reference point for posters not sure about what has been revealed and what hasn't. Also, it's here for those interested in putting the pieces together and creating a coherent plot/story.

If someone accidentally enters this thread, I'll at least try to put spoiler tags around each post.

The biggest problem I've seen in the past couple of days is threads going haywire with information, and it's become impossible to keep track of what's what and where things are... So here's the place to put all of it!

[Rocketman]

It starts with the India shoot:

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Various sightings of something believed to be a Lazarus Pit. If that is indeed what it is, and we are to believe that Bruce gets his back broken by Bane, Bruce travels to India to be rejuvenated in the Pit.

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Josh Pence was sighted in India as a Young Ra's Al Ghul. Theories have involved anything from Young Ra's being alive in MODERN times (in other words, he's back as his rejuvenated self), to Liam Neeson returning. Liam Neeson has been spotted on set in England.

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It's been suggested that Ra's Al Ghul trained Bane at a young age.

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It's been suggested that Joey King is playing a Young Talia, and that her role will be predominately featured with Josh Pence's Ra's.

More to come...

[Rocketman]

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It's safe to assume that Marion Cotillard is indeed playing Talia Al Ghul. She infiltrates Wayne Enterprises and becomes close to Bruce by going by the false name of Miranda Tate, only to reveal herself as Ra's Al Ghul's daughter.

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Rumors (confirmed or not) have involved Talia killing Lucius Fox.

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Talia somehow steals Tumblers and gives them to Bane and his henchmen. We know of at least three Camo-Tumblers in Pittsburgh.

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The suggestion is that Talia and Bane have this plan:

- Talia is to defeat Bruce Wayne financially and emotionally by infiltrating Wayne Enterprises.
- Bane is to defeat Batman physically and "break him."

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It is assumed that Bane and Talia are running the new and improved version of the League of Shadows.

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If they're following the Knightfall saga in the comics, Bane was written solely for the purpose of being the "man that finally broke Batman." This leads us to believe that Bane will break Batman's back at some point in the movie. If this indeed happens, Bruce will be in a wheelchair for a good portion of the film, and will have to recuperate.

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From the title's perspective, this gives us a literal AND metaphorical meaning for The Dark Knight Rises. Bruce rises from his wheelchair to walk again, while also rising as a symbol in Gotham by the end of the story.

[Rocketman]

From what several people have reported,

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John Blake (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) gets shot in the head and killed, "Departed" style. The person who kills him is described as "an old man." It's been suggested that it could be Tom Conti's character, though this is not confirmed.

Bane's ultimate scheme:

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Again, not confirmed.

This involves an earthquake generator underground in the sewers.
The idea is to set it off and kill 60,000 Gotham citizens at the Football Stadium during the Gotham Rogues game.

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It's also been suggested that a possible earthquake is not man-made, but a NATURAL DISASTER, straight from the story of No Man's Land.

OR:

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The reason the stadium is partially torn apart is because it's simply a bomb that goes off.

We now know that Catwoman

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steals a Bat-Pod

And we're assuming that

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Catwoman is about to chase the Tumblers. Talia is indeed in one of them.

During the Pittsburgh shoot, it was reported that

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Miranda Tate reveals herself as Talia, and then stabs Batman.

[Dark Sentinel]

http://batman-news.com/2011/08/06/ex...-knight-rises/

Exclusive details from Batman-News.com on Catwoman's backstory.

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Catwoman is apparently one of the most well written characters we’ve seen in these movies so far and she could potentially steal the show the way Heath Ledger did last time. She does some cool stuff in the movie like jumping out of windows and stealing the Batpod. Her back story is that she has a history of abuse and works as a stripper and is also a pickpocket.

[Charlie The Red]

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Some sort of underground explosion or incident occurs during the Gotham Rogues game that causes the ground to split. Potentially, a lot of people die.

[Llama_Shepherd]

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If the scenes from last week were in a sort of order then it is possible it procceds like this:

Bane causes a riot
Batman appears and the fight goes inside
Miranda kills Lucius?
Miranda stabs Batman
Catwoman steal the Pod

[Charlie The Red]

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Based on pictures of Bane tearing up pictures of Harvey Dent, it's possible that he exposes Harvey Dent's crimes to the people of Gotham

[Rocketman]

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Based on the fake snow in Pittsburgh, the story clearly takes place in the winter at some point.

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We've seen the graveyard set outside of Wayne Manor, which clearly suggests that we'll finally get the scene we've always wanted: Bruce visiting his parents' graves.

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Matthew Modine's character, Nixon, is said to be a corrupt politician.

It's been theorized that Nixon visits strip clubs on his spare time, and this might connect to Selina Kyle being a stripper who finds out more information about Nixon than she should. Might she overhear of corrupt secrets, and decide to take matters into her own hands?

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Selina's stripper name could easily be "Cat-Woman."

[Anno_Domini]

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There is another rumor that has Bane killing Lucius. Bane beats up Lucius infront of a crowd and then kills Mr. Fox with one final blow as a "show" for Batman.

I like this better just because I don't want Talia to have all the action, i.e. stabbing Batman and killing Lucius.

[Rocketman]

Goku Goes Crazy has an interesting suggestion:

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"I bet she's a stripper for Matthew Modine's character! He's probably the one that abuses her."

[Rocketman]

Everything (so far) in one post:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Various sightings of something believed to be a Lazarus Pit. If that is indeed what it is, and we are to believe that Bruce gets his back broken by Bane, Bruce travels to India to be rejuvenated in the Pit.

Josh Pence was sighted in India as a Young Ra's Al Ghul. Theories have involved anything from Young Ra's being alive in MODERN times (in other words, he's back as his rejuvenated self), to Liam Neeson returning. Liam Neeson has been spotted on set in England.

It's been suggested that Ra's Al Ghul trained Bane at a young age.

It's been suggested that Joey King is playing a Young Talia, and that her role will be predominately featured with Josh Pence's Ra's.

Catwoman is apparently one of the most well written characters we’ve seen in these movies so far and she could potentially steal the show the way Heath Ledger did last time. She does some cool stuff in the movie like jumping out of windows and stealing the Batpod. Her back story is that she has a history of abuse and works as a stripper and is also a pickpocket.

It's safe to assume that Marion Cotillard is indeed playing Talia Al Ghul. She infiltrates Wayne Enterprises and becomes close to Bruce by going by the false name of Miranda Tate, only to reveal herself as Ra's Al Ghul's daughter.

Rumors (confirmed or not) have involved Talia killing Lucius Fox.

Talia somehow steals Tumblers and gives them to Bane and his henchmen.

We know of at least three Camo-Tumblers in Pittsburgh.

The suggestion is that Talia and Bane have this plan:

- Talia is to defeat Bruce Wayne financially and emotionally by infiltrating Wayne Enterprises.

- Bane is to defeat Batman physically and "break him."
It is assumed that Bane and Talia are running the new and improved version of the League of Shadows.

If they're following the Knightfall saga in the comics, Bane was written solely for the purpose of being the "man that finally broke Batman." This leads us to believe that Bane will break Batman's back at some point in the movie. If this indeed happens, Bruce will be in a wheelchair for a good portion of the film, and will have to recuperate.

From the title's perspective, this gives us a literal AND metaphorical meaning for The Dark Knight Rises. Bruce rises from his wheelchair to walk again, while also rising as a symbol in Gotham by the end of the story.

Some sort of underground explosion or incident occurs during the Gotham Rogues game that causes the ground to split. Potentially, a lot of people die.

John Blake (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) gets shot in the head and killed, "Departed" style. The person who kills him is described as "an old man." It's been suggested that it could be Tom Conti's character, though this is not confirmed.

Again, not confirmed.

Bane's ultimate scheme:

This involves an earthquake generator underground in the sewers.

The idea is to set it off and kill 60,000 Gotham citizens at the Football Stadium during the Gotham Rogues game.

It's also been suggested that a possible earthquake is not man-made, but a NATURAL DISASTER, straight from the story of No Man's Land.

Or, the reason the stadium is partially torn apart is because it's simply a bomb that goes off.

We now know that Catwoman steals a Bat-Pod, and we’re assuming that Catwoman is about to chase the Tumblers. Talia is indeed in one of them.

During the Pittsburgh shoot, it was reported that Miranda Tate reveals herself as Talia, and then stabs Batman.

If the scenes from last week were in a sort of order then it is possible it proceeds like this:

Bane causes a riot
Batman appears and the fight goes inside
Miranda kills Lucius?
Miranda stabs Batman
Catwoman steal the Pod

Based on pictures of Bane tearing up pictures of Harvey Dent, it's possible that he exposes Harvey Dent's crimes to the people of Gotham.

Based on the fake snow in Pittsburgh, the story clearly takes place in the winter at some point.

We've seen the graveyard set outside of Wayne Manor, which clearly suggests that we'll finally get the scene we've always wanted: Bruce visiting his parents' graves.

Matthew Modine's character,Nixon, is said to be a corrupt politician.

It's been theorized that Nixon visits strip clubs on his spare time, and this might connect to Selina Kyle being a stripper who finds out more information about Nixon than she should. Might she overhear of corrupt secrets, and decide to take matters into her own hands?

Selina's stripper name could easily be "Cat-Woman."

There is another rumor that has Bane killing Lucius. Bane beats up Lucius in front of a crowd and then kills Mr. Fox with one final blow as a "show" for Batman.

[helloiamben]

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The Joker is hinted at and mentioned at the very end of the film due to the aftermath of the prison break, ala Batman Begins.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by helloiamben

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The Joker is hinted at and mentioned at the very end of the film due to the aftermath of the prison break, ala Batman Begins.

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I don't mean to cause a discussion in this thread, but there's no way that would even happen or make sense. The prison break is at Blackgate, Joker is at Arkham.

[Anno_Domini]

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At Heinz Field:

- Bane interrupts the game, bringing a silver, metallic round-shaped "machine" with him as well as a hostage, which may or may not be that "mad scientist" we've been hearing about. He created the machine.

- Bane has a speech and ends it with killing the hostage.

[Llama_Shepherd]

NO DISCUSSION

But now I have to post something, so:

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Bane's Venom looks to be an inhalant and may have caused damage to his lungs, he may not survive without the mask.

[Troy_Parker]

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Apparently JGL's character gets shot in the head

[kvz5]

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There is apparently a hostage situation at the Museum Ball (rumored to be a masked ball). Attendees are Bruce, Selina, Tate and Fox. Bane is also rumored to be at the even (most likely to cause chaos).

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There is a party for orphaned boys at the Wayne Manor. There might also be a SWAT raid at the manor.

[MysterioMenace]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZW9r...el_video_title

While not a picture, I couldn't really figure out where else to put this. Check out my video. I got Nolan, the Batpod, and the three camo Tumblers leaving Oakland. It was incredible! Thanks guys.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Mysterio.../1/G_ShUeeZZAA

Also check out Catwoman on the batpod! And my article about my theories about the plot of TDKR's: http://ihogeek.com/2011/08/07/5-plot...-on-set-extra/

[Dragon_316ca]

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Heinz Field

- One of the suites @ the football stadium got blown up. Rumor is that the Gotham Mayor (or another politician) was in that suite prior to the blast.

[hatebox]

I just got probation for discussing things in the No Discussion thread.

[Knightwing]

I just got probation for discussing things in the No Discussion thread.

[RichardMoore]

I just shot probation for discussing things in the No Discussion thread.

Yes you did...

[Farfarello]

According to Variety columnist Jeff Snyder, Juno Temple is actually playing Harley Quinn instead of Holly Robinson...

http://twitter.com/#!/TheInSneider/status/108684413201682432

[MagnarTheGreat]

The Devin Faraci rumors before filming began:

January 30th, 2011:

I’ve now heard from three different sources that there is another character in The Dark Knight Rises, one who ties the whole thing together. [...] I don’t know the answer to any of this, but I think that we’re going to soon learn this movie isn’t just about Bane and Selina Kyle.

March 2nd, 2011:

As she herself confirmed, Anne Hathaway will be Catwoman in the movie. I can’t tell you what role she has in the beginning, but by the end of the story Catwoman isn’t a villain but rather an ally of Batman. And who are they teaming up to take out? The League of Shadows. Headed by Talia Al’Ghul. With Bane, who is her muscle/possible love interest. And with Joseph Gordon-Levitt in tow. Is he playing Black Mask? My source didn’t know, but did know that Levitt is certainly an antagonist and involved with the League of Shadows.

April 8th, 2011:

My guess, based on the rough plot outline we broke last month, is that Pence’s scenes will involve the young Bane; what I’ve heard is that Bane becomes to the League of Shadows what they had hoped Bruce Wayne would be. In Star Wars parlance, ‘there is another.’ I’d guess that Ra’s was aware of young Bane growing up in a prison, and that the flashbacks will feature that. Might they also feature The League of Shadows attempting to destroy Gotham previously, when Bruce was a boy? In fact, might the flashbacks not compare and contrast young Bruce and young Bane? I wouldn’t be surprised at all. And by the way - do you think Pence will be the only actor playing Ra’s Al Ghul in this film? Hmmmm…..

April 19th, 2011:

I suspect that Miranda Tate will be revealed as Talia Al Ghul, much as Ducard was revealed as Ra’s Al Ghul. Blake, on the other hand… my sources told me he would be someone sowing chaos in Gotham at the start of the film. Is my source wrong or is the description presented misleading?

April 27th, 2011:

Expect a bunch of the League of Shadows. My sources – who have been pretty good so far – tell me that they’re casting Ra’s Al Ghul’s wife right now. We may get a serious look back at the life of Ra’s.

June 15th, 2011:

As I said before, my scooper was under the impression that [Liam Neeson as Ra's al Ghul is] a cameo. I’ve also been told that they’re casting Al Ghul’s wife, so I suspect that both appear in a flashback.

Gary Oldman's comments before filming on the story:

March 8th, 2011:

The scope of it and also the way he brings it back to 'Batman Begins,' and really what Bruce Wayne discovers about himself, what he learns about himself at the end of this one [will top off the trilogy]

March 9th, 2011:

I think it's a villain from one of the old, old, from way back from the old comics. It is a Batman villian... It's not going to be the Joker. If I told you who the villain was, they'd kill me.

March 27th, 2011:

I have quite a bit to do with Tom [Hardy] in this one.

He sort of brings it back… he brings it around [to Batman Begins].

Gary Oldman's comment after finishing filming on his scenes with Tom Hardy:

December 14th, 2011

The DARK KNIGHT RISES movie I’ve honestly had hardly anything to do with [Tom Hardy] as well. “Hardly Hardy.” [laughs] I’ve gotten to know him socially. Our paths crossed on the set of DARK KNIGHT, but we weren’t really… I’m in one scene with him, and then I’m unconscious and another scene where he’s in the room.