The Official Stupid Question Thread: Marvel Edition - Part 2

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[slim_summers]

Originally Posted by Panthro

Wolverine's probably sleeping with Mary-Jane Watson between jobs for the Avengers and the X-Men.

Please don't say this. The writers will actually do it.

My (presumably) stupid questions:

1) Do the 'Rise and Fall of Shi'ar Empire' and 'War of Kings' TPB's pretty much cover all of the 'Vulcan in space' stuff, and

2) Is it actually worth getting?

[Manic]

1. "X-Men: Kingbreaker" takes place between those two

2. someone else can tackle that one, as I didn't even finish War of Kings.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by Manic

1. "X-Men: Kingbreaker" takes place between those two

2. someone else can tackle that one, as I didn't even finish War of Kings.

The Rise was a good read and I can imagine being better in TPB rather then waiting a whole year to read the entire tale. War of Kings was alright but it was less about the X-men and more about the overall cosmic universe

You also forgot Emperor Vulcan. The Vulcan read order is

X-men: Deadly Genesis
The Rise and Fall of the Sh'iar Empire
X-men: Emperor Vulcan
X-men: Divied We Stand 2 (no Vulcan but it bridges the gap between these 2 minis)
X-men: Kingbreaker
War of Kings

[Jordacar]

There's also "Deadly Genesis", which introduces Vulcan in the first place.

[runawayboulder]

I never read War of Kings but most have said it was the best usage of Vulcan so far.

[slim_summers]

Thanks all. I've read Deadly Genesis and am not sure how much of the follow-up stuff is essential reading. I'm more of an X-fan than cosmic stories but if they're all a good read I'll get the lot

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by slim_summers

Thanks all. I've read Deadly Genesis and am not sure how much of the follow-up stuff is essential reading. I'm more of an X-fan than cosmic stories but if they're all a good read I'll get the lot

well its easy to ignore bc once Vulcan went into space, he really had little to no implications on the X-men. After the Sh'iar arc his presence was kept alive in the subsequent minis but he's barely been referenced in the main books and I wouldnt call any of that stuff essential reading. Actually I dont think he has been. Even in the current Legacy arc which shows the lost X-men back on panel, the writing is focusing on what kept them in space, not what actually got them their to begin with (Vulcan). Its too bad they didnt do more with him after the build up of the Third Summers Brother plot, and Deadly Genesis in terms of his impact on Scott and the X-men. He could have made for an interesting recurring character here on Earth and let the family dynamics play out

[slim_summers]

Originally Posted by Havok83

well its easy to ignore bc once Vulcan went into space, he really had little to no implications on the X-men. After the Sh'iar arc his presence was kept alive in the subsequent minis but he's barely been referenced in the main books and I wouldnt call any of that stuff essential reading. Actually I dont think he has been. Even in the current Legacy arc which shows the lost X-men back on panel, the writing is focusing on what kept them in space, not what actually got them their to begin with (Vulcan). Its too bad they didnt do more with him after the build up of the Third Summers Brother plot, and Deadly Genesis in terms of his impact on Scott and the X-men. He could have made for an interesting recurring character here on Earth and let the family dynamics play out

Sorry, my poor phrasing - I knew the follow-ups weren't essential reading for X-Men fans, I meant are they 'everyone should read this stuff' material. I like the idea of an epic space opera involving Vulcan and Shi'ar - and eventually going toe-to-toe with BB (from what I hear).

I totally agree there should have been more stuff with Vulcan on earth impacting on Scott and the others. Vulcan seems to get a lot of bad press (perhaps because of his power level? Or people just don't find him interesting?) but if written well he could have been a good recurring villain for the X-Men IMO. He may not be an A-Lister the way Mags, Apocalypse or Sinister are/were, but it's been said before on here that there aren't enough big X-villains.

[B]

This probably belongs here more than anywhere else. I've just really started becoming interested in the Thor character for the first time (thanks to the film), I've always been aware of the character just never really taken much interest in him.

I was wondering could someone put it in simpleton terms exactly what Thor is. I know it's probably a bad basis for my question, however when watching the film it wasn't really clear to me exactly what he is. Is he an alien? Is he from another dimension? etc.

I've had a look about the web & I could only find some info on Asgardians on Wikipedia but even after reading it I still asked myself.. What?

Could someone give me a brief explanation on the subject?

[Anubis]

He's a God.

What that means is open to interpretation. Could just mean that at some point some people simply worshiped him and he's just a very powerful extra dimensional being.

I've heard it explained that Gods in the Marvel Universe actual are the classic explanation of what a God is. Each planet with sentient beings has these beings. They are creations of the planet itself. Protectors? A defense mechanism? Who knows. Just know that every pantheon of Gods that have ever been dreamed up by man kind in the real world exist in the MU. Thor's fought Set, went drinking with Herc, even banged a few ancient Babylonian sex Goddesses.

So, I guess it's best to just classify them simply as what they are. Gods. Just means that the term doesn't mean as much as people think it does.

(As I often have to explain to people during fight arguments.)

[KevanG]

He`s a god, little `g`. The big G is `the Òne above all`or whatever the term is they use.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, there was an origin given for gods in general in one of Thor's annuals. Basically, it said that Earth generated this energy field called the Demiurge early in its emergence as a planet. The spirit of Earth (Gaea) and some other beings emerged as Elder Gods, and then over time the Demiurge latched onto primitive humans' belief systems to create lesser gods, which became the pantheons of various ancient religions (the Asgardians of the Vikings, the Olympians of the Greeks and Romans, the kami of the Japanese, etc.).

Later comics revealed that other planets have similar energy fields that create gods for them. So in the Marvel universe, gods are just a natural race that planets generate.

[WolfCypher]

I never knew that. How very Final Fantasy of Marvel.

[TheCorpulent1]

But awesomer because there's less ridiculous hair and fewer gigantic swords.

[The Question]

That reminds me, I really hope there's an MU level in the next Kingdom Hearts.

[Manic]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

But awesomer because there's less ridiculous hair and fewer gigantic swords.

[TheCorpulent1]

Originally Posted by The Question

That reminds me, I really hope there's an MU level in the next Kingdom Hearts.

Haha, "next Kingdom Hearts."

[KevanG]

Well posted Manic.

[TheCorpulent1]

Whatever, that guy lost his powers and possibly died anyway. I don't remember about that last part...

[javi1024]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Whatever, that guy lost his powers and possibly died anyway. I don't remember about that last part...

no hes still alive and kicking in Legacy as we speak.

[Anubis]

Who cares? The X-Men suck.

[runawayboulder]

X-Force doesn't.

[TheCorpulent1]

They suck just for existing.