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That's not understandable, but it's understandable that general audience claims it being the same since all they have seen is pretty much the same
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the general audience are just going to have to go with the origin again, or not.
if someone is set against seeing this movie because they've already seen the origin then I doubt anything will change their minds. the bottom line is peter IS going to be bit by a spider and is going to learn his powers again. bottom line. |
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As far as the teaser trailer goes I have no want or need to see it in the theater. And, also, it's not like Spider-Man is some kind of new character or anything to the world. How many cartoons has the character had? Ultimate Spider-Man will be coming on television soon. Spectacular Spider-Man ended just a few years ago. Spider-Man 3 was just in 2007. There have been how many different video game variations? I just don't see another origin movie necessary. It's a waste of film. They can just go into the movie with him being Spider-Man and it's going to make the same amount of money.
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![]() Another day. Another night. No trailer, but thank god I am alright!
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But, but it's the untold story.
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Is that what they are seriously calling it?
![]() *goes to IMDB sees movie poster* Wow. Just wow. The Untold Story? SERIOUSLY?!?! ![]() Sony is REALLY stretching themselves thin on this one. The Untold Story that's been told like over a hundred times since 1962.
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Heh. That's a more accurate movie poster now.
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they have to do the origin. if they jump straight into the story and spidey for example uses his eb shooters then the audience will be confused thinking 'I thought he organically made webbing. the origin is unavoidable.
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I don't think the audience would be that confused. You know what is the filmmakers friend...montage. They could do an origin montage. Weird Al Yankovic sang the plot of the first Spider-Man movie in a 4:53 song to the tune of Billy Joel's Piano Man. Sony just wants the origin done again because Raimi told them to shove it. The actors bailed because the director bailed and they want their hundreds of millions of dollars. Oh...and this one will be in 3D! So, it's "untold" now. ![]()
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Not retelling the origin would kill this reboot out of the gate. The prime example of this is The Incredible Hulk. That movie was a reboot but because Marvel really didn't advertise it as such and the little fact that it started in South America, Most of the GA thought it was a sequel to the almost universally hated, Hulk. TIH should have been WAAAAY more successful had it 1) Been advertised as a reboot and most importantly, RETOLD THE ORIGIN FULLY! The origin was retold in snippets in that film, rather than fully like originally intended (You can blame ALMIGHTY Norton for that) and it suffered. A reboot has to have the origin retold or it will fail. The key is to retell the origin properly.
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I had the same reaction, but the website (indirectly) states how the "story" is what happened to his parents and his father's work. They should have specified it though.
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Also noticed that Denis Leary will be playing George Stacy. That's an interesting casting choice. Movie will no doubt be PG or PG-13...so no cursing Denis. ![]() You really don't need to add the parents into it. They never really ever stressed Peter's parents in the comics until like hundreds of issues into the Amazing Spider-Man series. The whole point and connection of it was that Uncle Ben and Aunt May take over...Peter becomes a douche because of his spider powers...Uncle Ben gets offed...Peter feels guilty...loses the his doucheness...fights crime. Will be interesting to see what the next trailer brings. Like I said...from the teaser it just basically looks like the same thing that's been done already except with different characters and different actors. Even the sequence with Spider-Man running in a first person mode seems like just a different version of Spider-Man swinging the city to the American flag at the end of the first movie. Which was awesome.
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I can't blame the GA for being a little annoyed at the retelling of the spidey origin because I remember when I was watching superman returns and I could feel myself getting angry at seeing the clark kent origin on the farm again and it was only when he got to the city did I feel my anger subside.
I think (hope) this wont be the case for spidey as the tone and and themes are completely different with the only thing remaining consistant being the spider bite. |
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Even though it's not really the case here, the first time I saw The Incredible Hulk I thought it was a sequel to Hulk. If they'd told the origin (even if it was only like, 20 minutes of the film through a flashback) I probably wouldn't have been confused like that.
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You're giving the GA too much credit, SpideyInATree.
Seriously, there are people I've talked to that still don't understand why he has "those metal things" on his wrists or ask me why Mary Jane has blonde hair. Face it, the general audience is ignorant as all hell.
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The Untold Story is referring to his parent's story...
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and to the tragic story of the Stacys which was untold in the Raimi series and on film in general.
As well as the Ultimate verion of Spidey's origin which, for all intensive purposes, this film is telling.
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