TIH vs. Ang Lee's Hulk

[Parker Wayne]

Which Hulk movie is better?

[The Morningstar]

Ang Lee's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[the gael]

The Incredible Hulk

[elgaz]

They're very different. Dunno if you can categorically state that one is better than the other.

In terms of personal preference, I preferred TIH and Norton's take on it. Less 'angsty' and more akin to the original TV show about a man constantly on the run, and I also much preferred the look of the Hulk to the ever changing bloated version in Ang Lee's.

However, I do appreciate that Lee's version had some good moments, and I liked Bana's and Nolte's performances. And I thought Sam Elliott made a better Ross.

[Daybreak_st]

Originally Posted by elgaz

And I thought Sam Elliott made a better Ross.

Sam Elliott was infinitely better as Ross in Hulk. I really didn't care for the actor's portrayal in Incredible. He was bland and boring. Elliott was gruff but enjoyable to watch and felt more authentic. The other guy felt like he was trying too hard.

[The Morningstar]

I know alot of people hate the final fight in Ang's version, but i thought it was brilliant. Hulk get's more powerful the angrier he gets right? That's how he usually defeats his foes, by getting angrier and stronger and SMASHING!!!! them.

What i loved was the way it showed Hulk's anger, as an actual emotion, defeated Absorbing Man, or whatever you wanna call him. He was absorbing the Gamma energy of Hulk, but Hulk went completely mental "TAKE IT AAAAAAALLLLLLL!" and overloaded Absorbing Man.

That was a great way of showing how powerful Hulk becomes because of his anger without resorting to him just beating the crap out of his enemy.

I didn't like how in TIH it made the transformation a physical thing (increased heart beat) instead of the transformation being fuelled by the actual emotion of anger.

[Username.]

Originally Posted by The Morningstar

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I didn't like how in TIH it made the transformation a physical thing (increased heart beat) instead of the transformation being fuelled by the actual emotion of anger.

Umm, Banners transformations are involved with stress and increased heart rate, it's not just anger...

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by Username.

Umm, Banners transformations are involved with stress and increased heart rate, it's not just anger...

Thing is that in TIH it was reduced to heart rate, so whatever the thing that got it up triggered the transformation. Anger, and stress, sure, but also... having sex. That is what some posters are refering too. And the fact that it was made for the sake of a few cheap laughs makes it disrespectful to the character IMO.

[The Morningstar]

Originally Posted by El Payaso

haha holy ****. Well, i guess that's an easy mistake to make when it's early in the morning. They may as well be one and the same!

Originally Posted by Username.

Umm, Banners transformations are involved with stress and increased heart rate, it's not just anger...

Originally Posted by El Payaso

Thing is that in TIH it was reduced to heart rate, so whatever the thing that got it up triggered the transformation. Anger, and stress, sure, but also... having sex. That is what some posters are refering too. And the fact that it was made for the sake of a few cheap laughs makes it disrespectful to the character IMO.

Yea, what El says. They turned it into elevated heart beat in general, instead of actual anger causing it. I didn't like that.

I mean what, should his tag line be "You wouldn't like me when my heart rate gets faster!"

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by The Morningstar

Connelly used to be hotter, around the time Ang's film was made up until Blood Diamond. But she is way too skinny now.

Connelly is so hot.

Connelly > Tyler

Originally Posted by The Morningstar

haha holy ****. Well, i guess that's an easy mistake to make when it's early in the morning. They may as well be one and the same!

Pretty much. Johnny Depp's score isn't that bad, and to be honest, I don't find TIH's memorable either. In fact, I don't find any of Marvel Studios scores that memorable.

[TheDevilIsMe]

Originally Posted by The Morningstar

I know alot of people hate the final fight in Ang's version, but i thought it was brilliant. Hulk get's more powerful the angrier he gets right? That's how he usually defeats his foes, by getting angrier and stronger and SMASHING!!!! them.

This is what I missed about 'The Incredible Hulk' and 'The Avengers'. He should get bigger the more angry he gets - that's important to his abilities.

I think the Hulk's appearance was nailed in 'The Incredible Hulk'. Love that type of green. 'Avengers' Hulk is too bright.

[kedrell]

Originally Posted by TheDevilIsMe

This is what I missed about 'The Incredible Hulk' and 'The Avengers'. He should get bigger the more angry he gets - that's important to his abilities.

I think the Hulk's appearance was nailed in 'The Incredible Hulk'. Love that type of green. 'Avengers' Hulk is too bright.

Please God, no. Just no. It completely gets the character wrong. He isn't Giant-Man. His superpowers have little to do with him being large. His already superhuman size is really just an after-effect and while important to getting his accurate 'look' right, has little else to do with the character.

[Kirmit]

I like both for different reasons.

[hopefuldreamer]

Ang Lee's for me.

I prefer Bana, I prefer the tone and I even prefer the fight scenes.

The only thing I like better in TIH was Liv Tyler's Betty Ross and her interactions with the Hulk.

[Oberon sexton]

Ang Lee's by leaps and bounds for me.
I loved how the film actually explores Bruce Banner's psyche; where his rage comes from and all that.

Hulk himself (aside from the size thing) is almost identical to his comic counterpart in terms of personality and abilities. Plus the desert scene is probably the best action scene of any comic film ever.

I loved how it portrayed General Ross as a morally grey character, caught between his Daughter's love for Banner and his own absolute hatred for the man. Elliot's portrayal was so much more three dimensional than Hurt's bland cartoon version.
The general tone of this film is vastly better than TIH and it generally attempts to really explore its source material in ways that few Comic Films ever do.
Most of all I love that it's actually building off of the comic and not that overrated 70s show that everyone seems to think is the end all be all of the character.

[Radioactive1980]

Originally Posted by Oberon sexton

Hulk himself (aside from the size thing) is almost identical to his comic counterpart in terms of personality and abilities. Plus the desert scene is probably the best action scene of any comic film ever.

Give me a break.

Apart from it being pretty underwhelming- hulk smashes a couple of tanks and choppers big deal, he does not even seem to have Hulk's true strength level. Instead he is under-powered. You can clearly see Hulk struggling to lift the cannon section of a tank above his head and when the other tank blasts him he falls over.

Compare that to the actual greatest ever action scene of a comic film- Avengers Manhattan battle when Hulk kills a chitauri worm with one punch. Much more like it.

[The Morningstar]

Yea, Elliot's Ross was so vastly superior to Hurt's. That comes down to writing more than anything though.

[Oberon sexton]

Well yeah partial at least, I mean Hurt probably would have given a better performance with a better script. That said, Elliot's Ross had so much more hard intensity, where as Hurt...I dunno how I'd describe it, he was more of Talbot type character than anything.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

With half of the people in here saying Ang's movie, why is mine the only vote for it?

Anyway, I liked TIH, but I LOVE And Lee's Hulk, much more faithful representation of the comic book character for me and I loved how much it delved into Banner and were the Hulk comes from. One of my favourite CBM movies ever.

[Evelisse]

both were ok, but I liked TIH more I guess for most the reasons that have been stated, I liked Norton's Banner, I liked the look of Hulk in TIH, and the action and fight scenes were easier to make out than the end fight of Ang Lee's hulk and didn't like the hulk dogs.
Of course probably more biased for TIH because felt like the show which I grew up watching rather than the comic

[kedrell]

TIH by a mile and then some. Anghulk is probably my most hated movie of all time. No scratch that, there's no probably about it. I hate that movie more than any other that I have ever seen. It's a travesty of gigantic proportions. Damn thing put me in a foul mood for months afterward back in 2003. TIH has many flaws(mostly with the characterization or lack thereof with regard to Hulk himself) but on the whole it's still a good movie.

[C. Lee]

To me....the Ang Lee directed HULK is the better acted drama, while THE INCREDIBLE HULK is the more faithful, more fun comic adaptation.

[S. Grundy]

Though technically the origin in Lee's Hulk is closer to the comic, having Bruce exposed to the Gamma by saving someone.

[kedrell]

Originally Posted by S. Grundy

Though technically the origin in Lee's Hulk is closer to the comic, having Bruce exposed to the Gamma by saving someone.

Both are far too much away from the 616 origin for my liking.

[Optimus_Prime_]

Originally Posted by C. Lee

To me....the Ang Lee directed HULK is the better acted drama, while THE INCREDIBLE HULK is the more faithful, more fun comic adaptation.

^This

I also would say that Hulk should be a movie most people appreciate because what it does well it does very well. It just failed in some pretty major places, and unfortunately while it doesn't change the good parts it certainly hurts the film overall. They really needed something better at the end to tie the whole film together. The set up is great, very deep, very complex, but the payoff is very bland and uninspired. You simply cannot put all that work into polishing a script and then have some "meh" ending to bring it altogether.