Love Interest for Captain America II

[Blackman]

Who do you think the love interest of Captain American should/will be?

Sharon Carter as in the 616 universe

Janet van Dyne (Wasp) like in some of the Ultimate Universe

or who?

[antonydelfini]

Defenitely Sharon Carter. Abbie Cornish is who I want for the role.

The character journey I want for Cap in part 2 is for him to let go of the past. I want him to have a hard time letting go of his former love, former team mates, former society that he lost.

By the end of the movie, it would be great to see him have a new found love and appreciation for his new romantic partner, new teammates (SHIELD) and the 21st century American society.

[R_Hythlodeus]

Originally Posted by antonydelfini

Defenitely Sharon Carter. Abbie Cornish is who I want for the role.

what a waste of potential. Abbie has to get a MCU super hero role herself.

[psylockolussus]

Sharon Carter.

[Carnage27]

Other. The Sharon/Cap dynamic has always held an underlying creepiness for me.

And honestly, I'd be completely okay with no love interest. Just give me a spy-type thriller movie where Cap, Hawkeye, and Widow go around kick ass and taking names.

[xeno000]

Originally Posted by Carnage27

Other. The Sharon/Cap dynamic has always held an underlying creepiness for me.

And honestly, I'd be completely okay with no love interest. Just give me a spy-type thriller movie where Cap, Hawkeye, and Widow go around kick ass and taking names.

I agree with this. Steve's relationship with Sharon not only has bizarrely creepy overtones, but it also smacked of desperation and grief on his part. When he awoke form the ice he latched on to a woman who not only resembled his lost love, but was related to her (sister/niece/whatever). And Sharon knew about that dynamic, knew how the relationship hurt her sister (in the original version), and was happy to be second best for a man who was using her as a substitute for his first lover. It was unhealthy all around and far too much like a soap opera to really work. (The fact that Sharon Carter never had much of a personality only made the situation that much worse.)


If I had my way, the writers of CA2 would either leave Steve unhappily single and focused on the mission at hand, or they would give him a love interest who was wholly normal and unconnected to his life as a superhero. Steve's ex-fiancee Bernie Rosenthal would be ideal, or a character very similar to her. Bernie was a very dynamic and interesting woman in her own right and quite a good match for Steve. She was originally an artist/glassblower, which gave them a talent in common as Steve is a commercial artist. He's an old fashioned guy so it makes sense that he would choose a normal, old fashioned girl like Bernie. Not all love interests have to be super, or soapy.

[DrCosmic]

Originally Posted by xeno000

I agree with this. Steve's relationship with Sharon not only has bizarrely creepy overtones, but it also smacked of desperation and grief on his part. When he awoke form the ice he latched on to a woman who not only resembled his lost love, but was related to her (sister/niece/whatever). And Sharon knew about that dynamic, knew how the relationship hurt her sister (in the original version), and was happy to be second best for a man who was using her as a substitute for his first lover. It was unhealthy all around and far too much like a soap opera to really work. (The fact that Sharon Carter never had much of a personality only made the situation that much worse.)


If I had my way, the writers of CA2 would either leave Steve unhappily single and focused on the mission at hand, or they would give him a love interest who was wholly normal and unconnected to his life as a superhero. Steve's ex-fiancee Bernie Rosenthal would be ideal, or a character very similar to her. Bernie was a very dynamic and interesting woman in her own right and quite a good match for Steve. She was originally an artist/glassblower, which gave them a talent in common as Steve is a commercial artist. He's an old fashioned guy so it makes sense that he would choose a normal, old fashioned girl like Bernie. Not all love interests have to be super, or soapy.

Thank you. Dating your ex's grand-niece is creepy weird, and they have the same last name, so you can't ignore it. It's the same with Cyclops getting with, having a kid with and then suddenly leaving Madelyne Pryor, the Jean Grey look-alike. It's ultra-douchey, and pretty frikkin creepy but we just kinda accept/ignore it in comics. It won't go over so well with the GA who isn't as attached to these characters.

Not only does it not have to be Sharon, but it shouldn't be. I think having her in there as a love triangle like Sean said, with Bernie winning out in the end could be pretty cool, and really bring Cap back down to a human element.

I am also a fan of giving Sharon Carter's role to Carol Danvers, as Carol can still serve the purpose of the Sharon Carter role, as well as be her own character, even a teammate at some point, now with 'history' with Cap. It's just plain old narrative efficiency.

But having no love interest like a B-movie is out of the question, guys, seriously.

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by DrCosmic

Thank you. Dating your ex's grand-niece is creepy weird, and they have the same last name, so you can't ignore it. It's the same with Cyclops getting with, having a kid with and then suddenly leaving Madelyne Pryor, the Jean Grey look-alike. It's ultra-douchey, and pretty frikkin creepy but we just kinda accept/ignore it in comics. It won't go over so well with the GA who isn't as attached to these characters.

Not only does it not have to be Sharon, but it shouldn't be. I think having her in there as a love triangle like Sean said, with Bernie winning out in the end could be pretty cool, and really bring Cap back down to a human element.

I am also a fan of giving Sharon Carter's role to Carol Danvers, as Carol can still serve the purpose of the Sharon Carter role, as well as be her own character, even a teammate at some point, now with 'history' with Cap. It's just plain old narrative efficiency.

But having no love interest like a B-movie is out of the question, guys, seriously.

What's douchey or creepy about Cap meeting and growing attached to the grand-niece of the woman he was madly in love with in WWII? As far as his perception is concerned, it was only yesterday that he promised that dance to Peggy, and now he (and she) will never have that, because time (and probably death) has separated them forever. Sharon looks like her, reminds him of her, and is related to her. There's nothing creepy or douchey about him projecting Peggy onto Sharon; in fact, it would likely be a point of discussion and contention in their relationship, as Sharon realizes that Steve is doing just that.

What was creepy and douchey was the way it was handled in the actual comics, because Peggy WAS still alive, and very much still in Steve's love life. She was only about twenty years older than him there, so the comic book version of the story had Steve banging his cougar girlfriend while doing her younger, hotter niece on the sly. THAT, my friend, is frickin' douchey. The movies give Steve the graceful out of having seventy years and death (again, presumably) separating the two women who are his love interests.

[DrCosmic]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

What's douchey or creepy about Cap meeting and growing attached to the grand-niece of the woman he was madly in love with in WWII? As far as his perception is concerned, it was only yesterday that he promised that dance to Peggy, and now he (and she) will never have that, because time (and probably death) has separated them forever. Sharon looks like her, reminds him of her, and is related to her. There's nothing creepy or douchey about him projecting Peggy onto Sharon; in fact, it would likely be a point of discussion and contention in their relationship, as Sharon realizes that Steve is doing just that.

Why do you think it would be a point of contention if its not douchey?

Dating someone in order to vicariously date someone else is supremely douchey, that is, emotionally abusive and emotionally immature. When they're related, it's extra douchey, and when the original is dead, then it's just creepy. No relationship can survive that because it's not even a real relationship, it's a consolation prize. In the comics world, it's just a point of contention. In movies (and moreso in the real world) it's a game ender, as it should be.

[TheVileOne]

No to Cap and Janet/Wasp, blergh.

Just FYI, in Ultimate Avengers Cap is paired up with Black Widow.

[TacomaTruck90]

Originally Posted by TheVileOne

No to Cap and Janet/Wasp, blergh.

Just FYI, in Ultimate Avengers Cap is paired up with Black Widow.

Good point..but idk id rather them go with 616 take with a knod to the Ultimates..there are some cool things with Ultimates though but id rather not go the Black Widow/Cap route..id love see Atwell/Cap again watching TFA i really wonder where that could of gone... but that doesnt seem to be happening..btw is she still casted in Winter Solider?

[Mr. Immortal]

Other as in NO love interest. Cap's always operated better as a sad bastard. Peggy simply cannot be topped, either. Is not possible.

[TheVileOne]

Mr. Immortal, Cap can't stay a virgin for another movie man. He's a 90 year old virgin now.

[MarvelKnight]

Sharon Carter should be the love interest, clearly, but I don't think it is necessary for it to be immediate. Love interest's are slightly overrated, imho, and since 70 years probably still seems like yesterday for Cap, no reason to try and start Steve on the path to getting over Peggy yet. I don't think he should even know Sharon Carter is related to Peggy for a while either.

A smart little quip like 'you remind me of someone I used to know' would suffice if they interact, but yeah, no need to go into a full-tilt romance right out of the gate. Also, I'm convinced Amanda Righetti was Sharon Carter. She is smoking and underrated imho, so I hope she gets a chance to come back and bring Sharon Carter to life.

[Webfoot Hero]

Sharon Carter is who it should be. Really no other logical person, except if you maybe want to go down the Diamondback route, which I doubt they will.

[Artistsean]

I think he should have a sort of Love Triangle. Not so there is the drama of juggling two girls or one finding out or something. Not that type of triangle. It should be Agent Sharon Carter of SHIELD and Bernie Rosenthal, an stained glass artist and glass blower.
The idea would be that he is drawn to both women, one represents his life as Captain America and the other represents his life as Steve Rogers. Which should he choose?
It would help symbolize the choice Steve feels like he has to make, being Steve or being Captain America.

Thats what I would make the movie about too.
It would take place in modern day and show how Steve is struggling with his new life. Should he give up being Steve since everyone he knew is dead or dying? Should he just be Captain America? Or should he try being Steve? Being an artist like he was before the serum and WWII? Should he try to have a normal life apart from Captain America?

[Blackman]

Originally Posted by Artistsean

I think he should have a sort of Love Triangle. Not so there is the drama of juggling two girls or one finding out or something. Not that type of triangle. It should be Agent Sharon Carter of SHIELD and Bernie Rosenthal, an stained glass artist and glass blower.
The idea would be that he is drawn to both women, one represents his life as Captain America and the other represents his life as Steve Rogers. Which should he choose?
It would help symbolize the choice Steve feels like he has to make, being Steve or being Captain America.

Thats what I would make the movie about too.
It would take place in modern day and show how Steve is struggling with his new life. Should he give up being Steve since everyone he knew is dead or dying? Should he just be Captain America? Or should he try being Steve? Being an artist like he was before the serum and WWII? Should he try to have a normal life apart from Captain America?

That's a good idea

[Silvermoth]

That is indeed an interesting idea.

I've never thought of Bernie being in a Captain America movie until you pitched that.

I could see Jasika Nicole as Bernie and if that woman at the end of CA isn't Sharon then Jessica Marias as her.

[Artistsean]

Thanks. So glad you guys like the idea. To flesh it out a little further, and to further make the choice hard I would also include in the cast his friends from the apartment when he was dating Bernie Rosenthal, Josh Cooper, Mike Farrell, and Anna Kapplehaum as part of his civilian life as Steve Rogers. And I would include Sharon Carter and Agent Samuel Wilson. Give him a good supporting cast of friends in both lives.
And I wouldn't have Steve actually dating both, I don't see him doing that. He would hold off until he made a choice and then date one of them.
Maybe include a cameo by RDJ as Tony Stark who could joke about how Cap could date them both, to Cap's shock. Or maybe include Hawkeye in the film as a SHIELD agent Cap is friends with from the Avengers, maybe.

And then there would be the major story arc of the villain taking over New York or whatever. Baron Zemo or something.

[CGHulk]

His love interest will be Ashley Johnson, she's seen in the opening of the alien attack and he rescues her, she tells the reporter at the end of the movie that he saved her.

[Artistsean]

I still say they should do this story idea:

Originally Posted by Artistsean

I think he should have a sort of Love Triangle. Not so there is the drama of juggling two girls or one finding out or something. Not that type of triangle. It should be Agent Sharon Carter of SHIELD and Bernie Rosenthal, an stained glass artist and glass blower.
The idea would be that he is drawn to both women, one represents his life as Captain America and the other represents his life as Steve Rogers. Which should he choose?
It would help symbolize the choice Steve feels like he has to make, being Steve or being Captain America.

Thats what I would make the movie about too.
It would take place in modern day and show how Steve is struggling with his new life. Should he give up being Steve since everyone he knew is dead or dying? Should he just be Captain America? Or should he try being Steve? Being an artist like he was before the serum and WWII? Should he try to have a normal life apart from Captain America?

A sort of love triangle that reflects his inner turmoil about where his life is heading, the two paths he can take.
And then add the stuff about the Winter Soldier on top of all that.

So, maybe, he sets himself up a new life outside of being Cap where he meets Bernie, but then the Winter Soldier stuff brings him and Agent Carter together. The turmoil also can be effected, one way or the other, by Bucky and the Winter Soldier. Maybe it makes him feel he should retire from being Cap, maybe it makes him feel he cannot ever retire. Maybe if Bucky becomes good again it opens the door for him to retire being Cap, pass it on like in the comics.

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by Artistsean

I still say they should do this story idea:

A sort of love triangle that reflects his inner turmoil about where his life is heading, the two paths he can take.
And then add the stuff about the Winter Soldier on top of all that.

So, maybe, he sets himself up a new life outside of being Cap where he meets Bernie, but then the Winter Soldier stuff brings him and Agent Carter together. The turmoil also can be effected, one way or the other, by Bucky and the Winter Soldier. Maybe it makes him feel he should retire from being Cap, maybe it makes him feel he cannot ever retire. Maybe if Bucky becomes good again it opens the door for him to retire being Cap, pass it on like in the comics.

Ugh. No Bernie.

[BlueLightning]

Yes, I was to mention her. Though I didn't see it at the first time, it really stand out from the last part of the movie. I thought she was cute, and I bought every bit of her speech.

[Tanin]

I say make it Maria Hill, there is no real reason it HAS to be Sharon Carter.

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by Tanin

I say make it Maria Hill, there is no real reason it HAS to be Sharon Carter.

Other than for the Peggy connection. Back in comic book days, it was only 20 years since the end of WWII instead of 70, so Peggy still featured very much as a character and even a love interest for 1960s Cap....albeit a May-December romance. Steve actually had to hide his relationship with Sharon from Peggy --- pretty sure he was bangin' Auntie *and* her niece.

Of course, with 70 years separating them now, that's too wide a gulf for Peggy to even be considered anymore. Still, there's some sort of psychological attachment Steve has to her through the (grand-)niece, so there's that aspect of it.

But since other people have already mentioned that Steve hooks up with Black Widow in Ultimates, and MCU shows a lotta love for Ultimates, I wouldn't be surprised to see that relationship develop in the future. Especially if it turns out that Scarjo will show up in CA2. And it'd create a triangle between her, Cap and Hawkeye, that could add a lot of drama.