All Things Superman: An Open Discussion - Part 10

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[Krumm]

Originally Posted by Mikelus

^^ It doesn't, he's just not the only one. Superman is unique because of who he is and what he represents for humanity.

Well, I see it differently. To each his own, I guess.

[herolee10]

So, are we still getting something this week at the Con regarding MOS? Or is that happening in another week from now or not at all?

[Willi Berg]

Originally Posted by herolee10

So, are we still getting something this week at the Con regarding MOS? Or is that happening in another week from now or not at all?

This is all the Comic-Con site has:

Saturday, July 14, 2012 :

2:30-5:00 Warner Bros. Pictures and Legendary Pictures Preview Their Upcoming Lineups—

Legendary Pictures: Pacific Rim- From acclaimed filmmaker Guillermo del Toro comes Warner Bros. Pictures' and Legendary Pictures' epic sci-fi action adventure Pacific Rim. When legions of monstrous creatures, known as Kaiju, started rising from the sea, a war began that would take millions of lives and consume humanity's resources for years on end. To combat the giant Kaiju, a special type of weapon was devised: massive robots, called Jaegers, which are controlled simultaneously by two pilots whose minds are locked in a neural bridge. But even the Jaegers are proving nearly defenseless in the face of the relentless Kaiju. On the verge of defeat, the forces defending mankind have no choice but to turn to two unlikely heroes -- a washed up former pilot (Charlie Hunnam) and an untested trainee (Rinko Kikuchi) -- who are teamed to drive a legendary but seemingly obsolete Jaeger from the past. Together, they stand as mankind's last hope against the mounting apocalypse. Pacific Rim also stars Idris Elba, Ron Perlman, and Charlie Day.

Warner Bros. Pictures: Man Of Steel

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey- From Academy Award-winning filmmaker Peter Jackson comes The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, a production of New Line Cinema and Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM). Jackson returns to Middle-earth in an adventure that begins 60 years before the events depicted in The Lord of the Rings Trilogy. The first of two films adapted from J.R.R. Tolkien's enduringly popular masterpiece, The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey follows titular Hobbit, Bilbo Baggins (Martin Freeman), who-along with the wizard Gandalf (Ian McKellen) and a band of 13 Dwarves led by Thorin Oakenshield (Richard Armitage)-is swept into an epic quest to reclaim the lost Dwarf Kingdom of Erebor from the fearsome dragon Smaug. The film's ensemble cast includes Cate Blanchett, Hugo Weaving, Ian Holm, Christopher Lee, Hugo Weaving, Elijah Wood, Orlando Bloom, Evangeline Lily, and Andy Serkis as Gollum.

Hall H

http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci12_prog_sat.php

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by Willi Berg

This is all the Comic-Con site has:



http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci12_prog_sat.php

Wow; I hope they have something huge in stored otherwise, Idk; it's like they're not even trying to make this into an success.

[Willi Berg]

Originally Posted by herolee10

Wow; I hope they have something huge in stored otherwise, Idk; it's like they're not even trying to make this into an success.

I guess they're trying to keep the mystery and build excitement off that, but, yes, that won't work if something great isn't revealed. Maybe they do want to keep fans guessing until the last minute, knowing that there is great anticipation for it. Let's hope so, anyway.

[hopefuldreamer]

Originally Posted by herolee10

lol; well despite what some may believe on this forum, I'm still hopeful that Superman in this version will retain his core values and characteristics that makes him distinguishable from other heroes.

If a company like Marvel Studios is willing to stay true to Captain America's character, let alone on how it was generally well received by critics and fans alike, then Warner Bros. shouldn't be afraid of doing the same with Superman.

If they can tell a great story and make superman's journey in MOS a compelling one, then I'm confident that the GA will love Superman even if he isn't as dark and broody like Spider-man or Batman.

Yeah i'm sure you're right

In fairness, I think even ASM did a good job of making sure Peter didn't come across too dark and broody.

Originally Posted by herolee10

Wow; I hope they have something huge in stored otherwise, Idk; it's like they're not even trying to make this into an success.

I really hope they are just holding bang for a big reveal.

[mclay18]

Originally Posted by herolee10

So, are we still getting something this week at the Con regarding MOS? Or is that happening in another week from now or not at all?

I got an early copy of this week's EW, which is focused on Comic-Con previews, but there's absolutely nothing about MOS in it. Not even a new photo.

I wouldn't put it past WB to release a new teaser poster, but there won't be a full-blown MOS panel.

[G.Godfrey]

Originally Posted by mclay18

I got an early copy of this week's EW, which is focused on Comic-Con previews, but there's absolutely nothing about MOS in it. Not even a new photo.

I wouldn't put it past WB to release a new teaser poster, but there won't be a full-blown MOS panel.

Im beginning to doubt if there even will be a MOS panel. Both The Hobbit and Pacific Rim have their cast attendees listed on their FB pages (and the descriptions in the SDCC official schedule) and the posters of course, from 2 days ago. MOS has none of those things. Very strange, I think...

[Willi Berg]

Originally Posted by G.Godfrey

Im beginning to doubt if there even will be a MOS panel. Both The Hobbit and Pacific Rim have their cast attendees listed on their FB pages (and the descriptions in the SDCC official schedule) and the posters of course, from 2 days ago. MOS has none of those things. Very strange, I think...

Maybe it will be a surprise like it was with The Avengers cast in 2010? And Henry Cavill steps out or something? It is a lot to ask for, but this is their last chance at Comic Con.

[mclay18]

I think just little nods to other heroes in MOS would be much more effective than hitting the audience over the head with the SHIELD references like they did in Iron Man 2, Thor and Captain America.

A little bit goes a long way. Just a reference or two, maybe a post-credits scene would help build up to a JL film.

[Alchemy Arcade]

With the rumors of a "Darker, more mature" film we can already see (if true) that WB is taking a different approach than Marvel/Disney did with Avengers.

Therefore, I can see them leaving the solo flicks without too much, if any JL references.

[FilmNerdJamie]

Originally Posted by Alchemy Arcade

With the rumors of a "Darker, more mature" film we can already see (if true) that WB is taking a different approach than Marvel/Disney did with Avengers.

That's from renowned ********-spreader Mark Millar. Disregard.

[Alchemy Arcade]

Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie

That's from renowned ********-spreader Mark Millar. Disregard.

Well damn.

[Lighthouse]

Originally Posted by FilmNerdJamie

That's from renowned ********-spreader Mark Millar. Disregard.

Adding to that, hasn't the buzz on Gangster Squad been pretty bad?

[RachelDawes]

Originally Posted by Lighthouse

Adding to that, hasn't the buzz on Gangster Squad been pretty bad?

I hope not. I'm really looking forward to that movie.

[J.Howlett]

Does anyone think that it is possible that the suits at WB changed Snyder and Nolan's mind about this version of Superman being contained in his own universe and that to use it as a launching pad for the DC Universe on film?

I mean, they've been done filming for 4 months. They'll be in post for another 16 months. Do you think the suits could've changed their tune?

Because, honestly, who better to usher in the DC Universe from a clean slate than the new modern day take on Superman?

[herolee10]

At this point the only thing that I'm worried about is that by having Cavil's Superman in a shared universe with other heroes on how limited his solo threats/obstacles will be on Earth.

I mean I could argue that I don't think the threat level for Nolan's Batman would be presented as high as it is now (TDKR) if Bale's Batman was located in a universe where other heroes were present on Earth. Unless every hero was off on some space mission for the entire duration of the events of TDKR, I couldn't see things escalating as big as they have in Nolan's world without the other heroes coming to Batman's aid.

And superman constantly deals with villains that threaten the safety of the entire planet as well.

[solidsnake86]

Originally Posted by J.Howlett

Does anyone think that it is possible that the suits at WB changed Snyder and Nolan's mind about this version of Superman being contained in his own universe and that to use it as a launching pad for the DC Universe on film?

I mean, they've been done filming for 4 months. They'll be in post for another 16 months. Do you think the suits could've changed their tune?

Because, honestly, who better to usher in the DC Universe from a clean slate than the new modern day take on Superman?

Honestly, I'm still not convinced they wont be using bale's batman. Arguably there most popular batman to date, it would just make sense to place him in a team film just for marketing purposes.

As for superman being in the film, that makes sense to. Because if they aren't planning to use reynolds bale or cavill, you are basically left with Justice League mortal and this being the second attempt to get it filming.

[herolee10]

Originally Posted by solidsnake86

Honestly, I'm still not convinced they wont be using bale's batman. Arguably there most popular batman to date, it would just make sense to place him in a team film just for marketing purposes.

As for superman being in the film, that makes sense to. Because if they aren't planning to use reynolds bale or cavill, you are basically left with Justice League mortal and this being the second attempt to get it filming.

This would relaly depend on whether Bale would be interested in returning or not, let laone of the outcome of his character's fate regarding the conclusion of TDKR.

Not to mention, if Bale just comes back for the JLA film, would we see any more solo Batman films? In some ways I think they'd be ruining the integrity of Nolan's franchise by continuing off of that continuity with Bale, and I think Bale would be aware of that as well and thus be reluctant to do so.

[mclay18]

Originally Posted by J.Howlett

I mean, they've been done filming for 4 months. They'll be in post for another 16 months. Do you think the suits could've changed their tune?

Technically, at the rate post-production is going... Man of Steel will be done by fall or winter this year. But they can always do reshoots if WB is keen on a more contained universe leading up to a JL film.

[BlueLantern]

Originally Posted by J.Howlett

Does anyone think that it is possible that the suits at WB changed Snyder and Nolan's mind about this version of Superman being contained in his own universe and that to use it as a launching pad for the DC Universe on film?

I mean, they've been done filming for 4 months. They'll be in post for another 16 months. Do you think the suits could've changed their tune?

Because, honestly, who better to usher in the DC Universe from a clean slate than the new modern day take on Superman?

12 months of post, not 16.

But I'm a bit confused as to why they couldn't release the film in December, considering how ahead of schedule it's going to be ready.

[youkaisama]

Originally Posted by BlueLantern

12 months of post, not 16.

But I'm a bit confused as to why they couldn't release the film in December, considering how ahead of schedule it's going to be ready.

I think it's because The Hobbit is already in that slot.

[Krumm]

Originally Posted by J.Howlett

Does anyone think that it is possible that the suits at WB changed Snyder and Nolan's mind about this version of Superman being contained in his own universe and that to use it as a launching pad for the DC Universe on film?

I mean, they've been done filming for 4 months. They'll be in post for another 16 months. Do you think the suits could've changed their tune?

Because, honestly, who better to usher in the DC Universe from a clean slate than the new modern day take on Superman?

For a second I was thinking, "What the hell does Superman's suit have to do with creating a DC Universe on film!?" Then I realized you meant "suits" as in executives.

Sure, it's possible, they are paying the bills after all.