What movies do you consider perfect?

[CConn]

So old spider-neil mentioned in another thread that he personally has never seen a movie he considers "perfect".

So my question is, do any of you consider any movies perfectly made? Or, at least, without any major flaws that you could vocalize?

[Figs]

John Carpenter's The Thing
The Good the Bad and the Ugly
LA Confidential

Those are just a few off the top of my head that I have no issues with.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Figs

John Carpenter's The Thing

The final stop motion creature is pretty poor.

[spider-neil]

My definition of the perfect movie is;
* Top class performances across the board (leads and supporting cast).
* Totally convincing effects (if it has special effects).
* Perfect pacing. You are engaged for all 3 acts.
* No glaring plot holes or characters acting or doing anything that makes no sense within the context of the movie.

I haven't seen a movie that ticks all of the above. Some movies for me have come awfully close but something (like a plot hole, or a character who is poor).
I would say the closest to the perfect movie I have seen would be the Shawshank Redemption.

[knowsbleed]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

My definition of the perfect movie is;
* Top class performances across the board (leads and supporting cast).
* Totally convincing effects (if it has special effects).
* Perfect pacing. You are engaged for all 3 acts.
* No glaring plot holes or characters acting or doing anything that makes no sense within the context of the movie.

I haven't seen a movie that ticks all of the above. Some movies for me have come awfully close but something (like a plot hole, or a character who is poor).
I would say the closest to the perfect movie I have seen would be the Shawshank Redemption.

For me, Unforgiven meets those standards along with a few other Clint Eastwood films.

[Matt Mortem]

Originally Posted by knowsbleed

For me, Unforgiven meets those standards along with a few other Clint Eastwood films.

Yep. I was going to post Unforgiven. Out of all the movies I've seen Unforgiven is one of the few where I said aloud "This film may very well be perfect"

I'd also list The Bride of Frankenstein.

[Figs]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

The final stop motion creature is pretty poor.

That has no bearing on whether the movie is a good or great film. You're nitpicking, just looking for something to complain about.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Figs

That has no bearing on whether the movie is a good or great film. You're nitpicking, just looking for something to complain about.

Saying a effect is't up to scratch is a nit pick? A poor effect breaks the illusion and takes you out the movie. The Thing is one of the best horror movies ever but some effects are sub par therefore it isn't a perfect movie. We're not talking about good or even GREAT movies we are saying whether a movie is PERFECT/FLAWLESS.

[Figs]

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[El Payaso]

None, but The Godfather 1 and 2 are dangerously close.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Fight Club

[childeroland]

The Wizard of Oz.
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke
Citizen Kane
Days of Heaven

[CConn]

For me...

Batman
Inception
The Life Aquatic
M
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
The Godfather
Kill Bill, Vol. 1
The Fellowship of the Ring

I think that's it.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by CConn

For me...

Batman
Inception
The Life Aquatic
M
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
The Godfather
Kill Bill, Vol. 1
The Fellowship of the Ring

I think that's it.

Batman - Batman is too stiff.
Inception - 2nd act drags.
The Life Aquatic - Haven't seen it.
M - Haven't seen it.
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly -This is a contender.
The Godfather - Haven't seen it, yeah yeah, sue me.
Kill Bill, Vol. 1 - c'mon, really?
The Fellowship of the Ring - Some effects are sub par.

[CConn]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

Batman - Batman is too stiff.
Inception - 2nd act drags.
The Life Aquatic - Haven't seen it.
M - Haven't seen it.
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly -This is a contender.
The Godfather - Haven't seen it, yeah yeah, sue me.
Kill Bill, Vol. 1 - c'mon, really?
The Fellowship of the Ring - Some effects are sub par.

This is a post your favorite movies thread, not obnoxiously critique other people's opinions thread.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by CConn

This is a post your favorite movies thread, not obnoxiously critique other people's opinions thread.

I thought this thread was about the 'perfect' movie rather than a 'favorites' thread. I have favorite movies that are riddled with plot holes, pacing problems, sub par acting from supporting actors etc.

[CConn]

Um, that has nothing to do with your opinion in contrast to mine.

I legitimately think the films I listed are perfect. You posting a one word rebuttles really doesn't affect anything.

[knowsbleed]

Provide a definition of "perfect" that we can compare movies to... otherwise this is really just a question of "What are the best movies, in your opinion?"

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

A perfect movie is one that excels in every facet of movie making; casting, acting, directing, writing, cinematography, editing, mise en scène, sound, writing, and drama. My choice, Fight Club, I feel, does this.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg Bop

A perfect movie is one that excels in every facet of movie making; casting, acting, directing, writing, cinematography, editing, mise en scène, sound, writing, and drama. My choice, Fight Club, I feel, does this.

You said writing twice

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Well it's pretty damn important!

[Crockett]

The few that I could think of right now:

The Godfather I & II
Mulholland Drive
Fanny and Alexander
Requiem for a Dream
Boogie Nights
The Kid (1921)
Talk to Her

[Thundercrack85]

Oddly enough, I'd probably have to say Iron Man. It did everything right.

Batman Begins would be on the list... but it had that painfully unnecessary childhood friend / love interest who they invented just for the movie.

[CJ]

The Dark Knight.

I hate how sadistic and cruel the movie gets at times. Taking a good man like Harvey Dent, killing his fiancee, causing half of his face to be mutilated, then when he retaliates against the people responsible, he's pegged as a "bad guy" then Batman shoves him off a ledge, killing him. Meanwhile, the villain responsible just giggles to himself at all he's done. Disgusting. I also hated Brian Douglas' death, but man, everything else about the movie was perfect.

The Joker was a sickening character, but that is what made him such a great villain. It made the viewer want Batman to take him down. It added intensity to the film, because you knew he was capable of anything. There were, as the tagline said, no rules. Not even the female love interest was safe.

The cinematography was gorgeous, The music was great. The marketing also, was perfect. The virals, TV Spots, trailers, posters. I love the movie, but hate how dark and sinister it gets.


Some other movies I consider perfect (They're mostly family films):

Spider-Man 2
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
The Land Before Time
Home Alone
Home Alone 2
The Sandlot
Toy Story

[TheGuy]

Originally Posted by CJ

Toy Story

And Toy Story 2.