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Old 08-05-2012, 01:52 PM   #1
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Old 08-05-2012, 01:52 PM   #3
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The pit was a brilliant metaphorical thread used to weave Bane and Bruce together; it broke down, in my opinion, when a needless twist was introduced to supplant Bane with Talia in the dichotomy that had been so carefully constructed.

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I just saw it for the second time, this time in IMAX. I enjoyed it even more this time, and I was able to understand the plot very easily. I think the IMAX sound mix made it easier to understand the dialogue, particularly Bane's. My friend (a sound editor), said that they most likely mixed just for IMAX and then converted for regular theaters, since it would cost a lot to do two mixes. That could be why it's more difficult to understand in a regular theater.

Two things did come to mind this time around. One, why did Blake decide to take the kids out on the bridge when he knew about the tunnel? Was the other side of the tunnel being blockaded too?

And two, how the hell does Bane shave?

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I just saw it for the second time, this time in IMAX. I enjoyed it even more this time, and I was able to understand the plot very easily. I think the IMAX sound mix made it easier to understand the dialogue, particularly Bane's. My friend (a sound editor), said that they most likely mixed just for IMAX and then converted for regular theaters, since it would cost a lot to do two mixes. That could be why it's more difficult to understand in a regular theater.

Two things did come to mind this time around. One, why did Blake decide to take the kids out on the bridge when he knew about the tunnel? Was the other side of the tunnel being blockaded too?

And two, how the hell does Bane shave?
you know I wondered how Bane shaved as well.

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The pit was a brilliant metaphorical thread used to weave Bane and Bruce together; it broke down, in my opinion, when a needless twist was introduced to supplant Bane with Talia in the dichotomy that had been so carefully constructed.
Well, my brother didn't really like Batman Begins until a second viewing, so maybe he needs to watch this again for certain things to sink in. I can respect his opinion of not liking the movie, but when you can't really explain why, then he needs to watch it again.

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The pit was a brilliant metaphorical thread used to weave Bane and Bruce together; it broke down, in my opinion, when a needless twist was introduced to supplant Bane with Talia in the dichotomy that had been so carefully constructed.
I agree. it was the lazarus pit basically it was done in a metaphorical way.

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I finally saw it! It was great...but i think it has its faults. The pacing is weak and theres issues about the structure of the movie .It feels weird! Its very jumpy and theres too many secondary characters. Its unnecessary long..some scenes are not necessary...and theres not enough batman. It doesnt look like a batman movie..

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I finally saw it! It was great...but i think it has its faults. The pacing is weak and theres issues about the structure of the movie .It feels weird! Its very jumpy and theres too many secondary characters. Its unnecessary long..some scenes are not necessary...and theres not enough batman. It doesnt look like a batman movie..
Don't forget Nolan wanted to shed light on other characters in the franchise such as Catwoman and Robin. It's something he hadn't done a whole lot of in the other two movies. It's always been Batman and a villain, Batman and a villain.

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Old 08-05-2012, 09:37 PM   #10
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Don't forget Nolan wanted to shed light on other characters in the franchise such as Catwoman and Robin. It's something he hadn't done a whole lot of in the other two movies. It's always been Batman and a villain, Batman and a villain.
that doesn't mean it was a good decision though.... i think he went a little over-board with the additions personally.

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. . . theres too many secondary characters . . . and theres not enough batman.
I completely agree. Watching a 2.75-hour "Batman" movie, I want more Bat-action in it. They should've ditched John and Miranda/Talia as secondary characters, because time had to be given to developing those characters' subplots--time that could've been given to Batman running around Gotham making his comeback during the first half or third of the film.

That comeback could've included--as in the original Knightfall trilogy--Bane releasing a host of criminals from either Arkham or Blackgate, thus (a) providing viewers with way more Bat-action, and (b) wearing Batman down before he faces Bane. And Bane could still have been part of the League of Shadows, and could have already had agents in Gotham infiltrating various corporations as well as government offices--thus unearthing some secrets of Wayne Enterprises--including Fox's stash of weapons and Tumblers. I'd suggest that such a discovery would also lead a smart guy like Bane to surmise that Bruce Wayne is Batman (or he could already have known via communication with Ra's al Ghul).

The final Bane-Batman showdown also could've been written and choreographed better, in three ways. (1) Give Batman a more dramatic arrival in front of City Hall than simply walking up to Bane after the mob fight has already started. I'd suggest having him on the roof of City Hall (or an adjacent building), drop down with his cape outspread (as in Batman Begins)--and "touch down" by slamming into Bane. (One way in which Nolan has disappointed me in these movies is by failing to give Batman a splashy, dramatic entrance, like smashing through a skylight as in Batman '89.)

This could've been a hugely dramatic moment if the lesser-armed gang of cops was intimidated about taking on Bane's soldiers--until the Bat shows up and inspires them to begin fighting! Instead they were already fighting and then Batman just kinda strolls into the action.

(2) Have the Bane-Batman rematch go longer while showcasing the master fighting skills of these two guys who were both trained by Ra's al Ghul. It seemed too much like a down-and-dirty street fight between thugs. It shoud've been more than that.

(3) Do justice to Bane's character by not having him go down to gunfire from the Batpod--and do justice to Batman by not having Catwoman show up in the nick of time to save his life.

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...yeah those are all good points. the upside of all this, without saying TDKR sucked, is that there's really a lot of things to look forward to in the next trilogy, simple things like a dramatic entrance (imagine if Batman had fallen on Bane by swooping in like in the beginning of Batman Forever, his first scene in the movie. Or falling down on him like he did upside down on those goons in BB...there's really a lot to look forward to, and that's ironically what I take away from this movie...hope.

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One question.....why theres some kind of blood transfusion ate the opening at the movie when Bane kidnaps Pavel on the airplane?

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One question.....why theres some kind of blood transfusion ate the opening at the movie when Bane kidnaps Pavel on the airplane?
I believe it's to give authorities the impression that the corpse they brought in the plane was Pavel's.

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I believe it's to give authorities the impression that the corpse they brought in the plane was Pavel's.
true, but don't they also use dental records to confirm the identity ?

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hmm..thanks the_monk!

by the way...why did Bane want Bruces fingertips after all? Don't remember...

Thanks!

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hmm..thanks the_monk!

by the way...why did Bane want Bruces fingertips after all? Don't remember...

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So he could get Bruce's shares of WE from Wallstreet.

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I still can't get over how great the wall climbing scene was. Nolan's use of symbolism with the bats was fantastic.

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I still can't get over how great the wall climbing scene was. Nolan's use of symbolism with the bats was fantastic.
Deffinately one of those moment's that makes your hair on the back of your neck stand, a real epic moment that for me.

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Well its mainly because of the others "not superheroes" characters like the new cops that arrive later and die after 5 minutes and so on.. i just think its weird the fact that the movie is so long but it feels the narrative is built like a trailer, the way the scenes and the story are put together. And other scenes drags and are a bit repetitive.Sometimes it was hard to follow... Dont know, could be just my impression.. But there are great moments, thats for sure!(although i have a feeling that batman only was there for a few minutes)

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Weren't the police supposed to catch Selina at the bar? Why they didn't catch her confuses me.

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They were looking for the congressman, not Selina specifically. They just thought she was a hysterical waitress or something.

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They were looking for the congressman, not Selina specifically. They just thought she was a hysterical waitress or something.
Exactly.

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Thanks for the answer. And one last thing, what was Selina trying to find in the vault while watching the tv? Was it the clean slate? And where was it?

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Thanks for the answer. And one last thing, what was Selina trying to find in the vault while watching the tv? Was it the clean slate? And where was it?
She was looking for the clean slate. I think Bruce had it all along, sometime during the 8 year gap. What Selina wanted was also "too dangerous" for the Gotham people, just like the fusion reactor. Dagget had the patent for it but thought it couldn't be done, and promised Selina lies in order to get Bruce's fingerprints. Bruce re-bought that patent when Dagget threw it out and developed it in applied sciences.

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