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Old 10-08-2012, 12:17 AM   #1
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totally forgot about that guy.

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:32 AM   #2
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Isn't Balder Thor's Half-brother and also Odin's Son ?

He is also called as God of Light and has helped Thor in many battles....I think.

Who played Balder in Thor? will he be in the sequel ?

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:48 AM   #3
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He wasn't in Thor.

I don't think they'll even bother. Shame, Balder's effin' awesome.

Tyr would be awesome as well.

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Old 10-08-2012, 02:01 AM   #4
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^ Tyr has already been confirmed to be in Thor: The Dark World by the way.

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What if Odin has Balder hidden away in order to prevent Ragnarok?

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What if Odin had Balder hidden away because he's really, really boring?

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Old 10-08-2012, 08:26 AM   #7
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What if Odin has Balder hidden away in order to prevent Ragnarok?
Could be! It's been done before.

But, given how many other characters are in this story already, I rather hope he stays hidden, at least for this film.

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Old 10-09-2012, 03:47 AM   #8
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What if Odin has Balder hidden away in order to prevent Ragnarok?
If they decide to use Surtur and Ragnarok in Thor 3, I can see that being the reason they use to explain Balder's absence.

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what if balder dead? And ragnorok gets set up for 3?

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Old 10-08-2012, 04:38 PM   #10
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Im not saying that Balder is missed, I just thought it was weird that nobody ever mentions him. Including me. I totally forgot about him.

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I couldn't careless about Balder not being in the films, he isn't nearly as interesting of a brother as Loki.

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Not a huge fan of the guy, but I don't think they'll go through the movies without eventually including or mentioning Balder. We'll see.

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He'll probably show up as a cameo at some point or another.

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You johnny come latelys only got to experience the wishy washy, easily manipulated Balder from JMS' run. Go back and see how awesome he was in Simonson's run. Guy kinda out shown Thor.

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Old 10-09-2012, 12:40 AM   #15
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Balder outshining Thor? That's by far the biggest "lol" I've had all week.

I'm a big fan of Simonson's run, yes Balder was alot more awesome then but "outshining Thor" is pushing it.

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Given how things have been set up so far, I'd actually guess that if Balder does exist in the movie version, he's probably an elder of Odin and Heimdall's generation, *not* Odin's son. That would explain his lack of involvement with Thor, and also better allow for him to be some kind of shut-in or exile.

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I couldn't careless about Balder not being in the films, he isn't nearly as interesting of a brother as Loki.
Agreed. We are getting tyr, don't really NEED another not necessary brother

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If they decide to use Surtur and Ragnarok in Thor 3, I can see that being the reason they use to explain Balder's absence.
I have been saying this for months. I believe that Balder will get mentioned, and the reason for his absence is because he is already dead, thus leading up to ragnarok and surtur for thor 3.

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Balder outshining Thor? That's by far the biggest "lol" I've had all week.

I'm a big fan of Simonson's run, yes Balder was alot more awesome then but "outshining Thor" is pushing it.
Seriously. I never was a fan of Balder. Not gunna lie. In any of the runs, Simonson's runs included, whenever Balder came on, I would literally say "uhhhhhhhh" and just skim through it. I don't care for Balder either. I am just trying to guess the reason for his absence, if there is one, other than the fact that they simply may have not choosen to use him.

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Given how things have been set up so far, I'd actually guess that if Balder does exist in the movie version, he's probably an elder of Odin and Heimdall's generation, *not* Odin's son. That would explain his lack of involvement with Thor, and also better allow for him to be some kind of shut-in or exile.
I am not sure I agree with that too much

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I think Balder is considered Redundant, as he's kind of Thor Lite.

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I think Balder is considered Redundant, as he's kind of Thor Lite.
Yeah, pretty much this, I think. It's not that he can't be cool, it's that, when he is, he's basically Thor. He doesn't fill the sidekick role like The Warriors Three, and you don't need a secondary protagonist in the films, there's not enough space (unlike the comics, where you can tell a lot of different stories over time).

All of that is magnified with Loki being such a big hit in the films. The Thor franchise already has a character who is almost as important as Thor, with his own agenda, etc.

Beyond that, it's a big cast of characters already. I'd rather see Sif get a substantial role and be important, rather than adding somebody new to the mix. She's a noble warrior, a kindred spirit of sorts, to Thor, like Balder, but she can also provide some romantic tension. On the whole, I don't think they really need Balder.

If they end up bringing him in somehow, well, awesome. But... I can see why they wouldn't.


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Yeah, pretty much this, I think. It's not that he can't be cool, it's that, when he is, he's basically Thor. He doesn't fill the sidekick role like The Warriors Three, and you don't need a secondary protagonist in the films, there's not enough space (unlike the comics, where you can tell a lot of different stories over time).

All of that is magnified with Loki being such a big hit in the films. The Thor franchise already has a character who is almost as important as Thor, with his own agenda, etc.

Beyond that, it's a big cast of characters already. I'd rather see Sif get a substantial role and be important, rather than adding somebody new to the mix. She's a noble warrior, a kindred spirit of sorts, to Thor, like Balder, but she can also provide some romantic tension. On the whole, I don't think they really need Balder.

If they end up bringing him in somehow, well, awesome. But... I can see why they wouldn't.
Firstly, I agree... The cast is already very big. If they want to do the Ragnarök story it would have to partyl focus on Balder. I'd rather see more focus on Sif like you. Since we need Balder for Ragnarök, how would this still work as a story plot? Don't tell me Sif will have to die there lol. I could rather live with a dead Balder here hehe.

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I hate balder, every time I got to a page that involved Balder in Simonson's run, I kind of read through it.

But with Surtur possibly being around, I still think Balder may already be dead (thank god), and lead up to Ragnarok

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I am beginning to wonder if Tyr will wind up being in the land of the dead with other dead warriors, so maybe we'll see Balder as well there. Though there's been nothing about casting the character as far as I know.

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I am beginning to wonder if Tyr will wind up being in the land of the dead with other dead warriors, so maybe we'll see Balder as well there. Though there's been nothing about casting the character as far as I know.

Uh, if Balder is dead and already in Hela's realm, wouldn't that mean Surtur really needs like 4 entire years to make Ragnarök happen? He is big, he is slow.

I never cared for Balder in the comics myself, although he is not a bad character actually. I like him over Tyr in fact. Balder just needs to be there for making Ragnarök happen. It will be tricky to come up with an explanation where he has been all the time.

Maybe he is going to appear in TDW, beeing a character in the background. So, when they need him for Ragnarök which is prolly going to take place in the third movie, they pull him out like a white rabbit and tell us he was there already all the time

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Uh, if Balder is dead and already in Hela's realm, wouldn't that mean Surtur really needs like 4 entire years to make Ragnarök happen? He is big, he is slow.

I never cared for Balder in the comics myself, although he is not a bad character actually. I like him over Tyr in fact. Balder just needs to be there for making Ragnarök happen. It will be tricky to come up with an explanation where he has been all the time.

Maybe he is going to appear in TDW, beeing a character in the background. So, when they need him for Ragnarök which is prolly going to take place in the third movie, they pull him out like a white rabbit and tell us he was there already all the time
Ragnarok in the MCU, I bet Loki will be the trigger.

and I always hated balder. I thought he sucked in the comics, and to be flat out honest, whenever I read Thor, and I get to a page with Balder, I just skim through that now haha.

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