The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > X-Men > X-Men: Days of Future Past

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-21-2012, 07:33 AM   #1
josh8
Side-Kick
 
josh8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,644
Default Ideas on how to achieve time travel

I've been wondering about how this movie can use time travel without it seeming really, really cheesy and I still have concerns. I don't want them to include a time machine. I also don't think the comics version will work by having a telepath transfer someone's subconsciousness back in time since that character will have to be in both timelines.

Here's and idea I've put together. Everyone join in!

I would have the movie start with a bleak image of the world in the DOFP timeline. We'd then shift focus to a time-jumping mutant... most likely Franklin Richards in a cameo role. He's kind of a trouble-maker and has been evading capture by getting lost in time. We'd see him jumping to different eras and causing a little mischief, but at the same time we'd also see that he knows not to mess with things too much and that each jump doesn't last that long.

We'd then see him jump to the FC era and before we can see what happens he jumps back to the DOFP timeline having witnessed something really bad. Having been completely freaked out by what he saw, he wasn't careful getting back and is ambushed by a Sentinel. The X-Men that are still alive in this timeline take out the Sentinel, but the kid is gravely injured.

Now, have any of you guys read the "Age of X" comics storyline? This would be a great way to bring in Rogue and give Anna (who was really disappointed with her role in X3 and would not likely come back now that she has True Blood) a nice role in the movie. In "Age of X", Rogue was known as the "Reaper" and her role was to collect/remember the memories of dying mutants.

In the movie, she's sent out to "reap" the mutant time-jumper's memories. That's when she discovers the preventable event from the FC timeline. Being older, wiser, and more in control of her powers, she stores the kid's powers and the X-Men rally to jump into action.


What are everyone else's thoughts??


Last edited by josh8; 11-21-2012 at 07:41 AM.
josh8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 09:24 AM   #2
Angamb
Banned User
 
Angamb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Spain
Posts: 13,348
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Interesting ideas... but I have a few questions.

Is that Franklin's power?

and how much time would you have him traveling in time in the beggining?

Angamb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 10:11 AM   #3
josh8
Side-Kick
 
josh8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,644
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angamb View Post
Interesting ideas... but I have a few questions.

Is that Franklin's power?

and how much time would you have him traveling in time in the beggining?
I'm not really sure how Franklin's powers work, but he's pretty powerful. I just thought it'd be nice to have someone in the role and not just an unknown. And he was in the original DOFP comic haha.

The way I see it, the beginning time travel stuff is just supposed to be a cool sequence, setting the mood of the movie as large in scope and setting up the possibility of time-travel right off the bat.

josh8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 09:32 AM   #4
marvelrobbins
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: St. Louis,Missouri
Posts: 9,976
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Way too Complicated.I see eather the comic version of changing mind with younger self(Xavier or Wolverine or Mystique) or physicaling sending someone to Past(Wolverine
or Rogue/Kitty depending on which one they use)

marvelrobbins is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 10:05 AM   #5
josh8
Side-Kick
 
josh8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,644
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Maybe it sounds complicated, but in my head it really is just like the intro sequence to the main plot. It's a way of getting time travel powers, and developing a character like Rogue in (what I think) a great way. I loved what they did to her in Age of X!

If you think about it, the original story is just as complicated if you were to spell it all out. I'm just throwing out ideas.


Last edited by josh8; 11-21-2012 at 10:13 AM.
josh8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 10:13 AM   #6
Angamb
Banned User
 
Angamb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Spain
Posts: 13,348
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

edited: you have just answered me, hehe. so it wont be longer than 1 min, right? at least Franklin part.

I think some ideas seem complicated to fans while reading them, but on the actual movie, it could be done by a good director in a fine way without making it too long, so its not a bad idea.

No exactly what Id love to see just in the very intro, but its a nice idea.

I like Rogue ideas much more, tho she's one of my faves characters, so Id love to see something like that, definetly


Last edited by Angamb; 11-21-2012 at 10:16 AM.
Angamb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 10:16 AM   #7
josh8
Side-Kick
 
josh8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,644
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angamb View Post
did you read my questions? how long do you imagine this intro with Franklin?
I would say the time travel display of powers could be done in like five minutes. A good director and editor could do a really fast paced sequence. It's just a way of getting the audience to believe that this universe can have time travel.

josh8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 10:19 AM   #8
josh8
Side-Kick
 
josh8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,644
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angamb View Post
edited: you have just answered me, hehe. so it wont be longer than 1 min, right? at least Franklin part.

I think some ideas seem complicated to fans while reading them, but on the actual movie, it could be done by a good director in a fine way without making it too long, so its not a bad idea.

No exactly what Id love to see just in the very intro, but its a nice idea.

I like Rogue ideas much more, tho she's one of my faves characters, so Id love to see something like that, definetly
Thanks for the input! Honestly, since the franchise started with Rogue, I think it would be great to have her be the catalyst for this story as well. She'll never get her Ms. Marvel powers, but at least she can be bad ass in a different, darker way.

Like this panel:

josh8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 10:33 AM   #9
Angamb
Banned User
 
Angamb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Spain
Posts: 13,348
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Wow, love that page. She looks really great and I can see Anna looking like that easily, and playing a badass Rogue.

Id like to see Kitty on this sequel, personally I think she DESERVES to be on this story, but would love to see Rogue again, so I have mixed feelings with the returning actors issue.

Not sure if Id like to see both Kitty and Rogue on the sequel, because I want to feel the drama behind this future, with some well known x-men dead already, so.... Its a hard decision.

I definetly need a X5

Angamb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 11:05 AM   #10
747
Fanboy rivalry? Yawn.
 
747's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Sweden
Posts: 3,948
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Since when did time travel become cheesy?

__________________
Top ten favorite theatrical superhero movies:

1. The Dark Knight | 2. Superman: The Movie | 3. Batman Begins | 4. The Avengers | 5. Batman Returns
6. Captain America: The Winter Soldier | 7. X2 | 8. X-Men: Days of Future Past | 9. Spider-Man 2 | 10. The Dark Knight Rises
747 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 11:12 PM   #11
josh8
Side-Kick
 
josh8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,644
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by 747 View Post
Since when did time travel become cheesy?
It can be cheesy if they use some lame time device. That's why I'm looking for interesting ideas on how to have it introduced. It also might have an "eye-rolling" effect on the audience since it's like adding another hard-to-believe element into a movie that already has weird super-powered mutants.

josh8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 08:48 AM   #12
SuperFerret
Class Act
 
SuperFerret's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: SuperFerret's Shoebox of Solitude
Posts: 33,565
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by josh8 View Post
It can be cheesy if they use some lame time device. That's why I'm looking for interesting ideas on how to have it introduced. It also might have an "eye-rolling" effect on the audience since it's like adding another hard-to-believe element into a movie that already has weird super-powered mutants.
Why, for the love of every god ever, would people who are WILLINGLY PAYING to go see a movie about "weird super-powered mutants" roll their eyes at time travel, when (1) they're already expecting to suspend their disbelief to the point that they accept mutants, and (2) time travel is a widely used science fiction concept that it (as well as super-powered people) just isn't weird anymore?

__________________
Faster than a speeding hamster.
-----More powerful than a box of tissues.
----------Able to leap off of tall buildings and hit the ground.
SuperFerret is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2012, 08:54 AM   #13
X-Maniac
High Evolutionary
 
X-Maniac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Genosha
Posts: 12,850
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperFerret View Post
Why, for the love of every god ever, would people who are WILLINGLY PAYING to go see a movie about "weird super-powered mutants" roll their eyes at time travel, when (1) they're already expecting to suspend their disbelief to the point that they accept mutants, and (2) time travel is a widely used science fiction concept that it (as well as super-powered people) just isn't weird anymore?
I think it's because people don't want to stretch the reality bubble too much.

By making a world in which the only totally unreal thing is superpowered mutants, then it's more grounded than if everything in that world is sci-fi.

It's a good point for debate. A mutant who is able to time travel might be one way to do it. On the other hand, a machine might work as well, since they already have Cerebro and Magneto's mutant-making machine from X1.

It could go either way. Looper managed to incorporate a time machine with no explanation at all; it was just a MacGuffin. But they might do something different.

__________________
Noah 3/10, Godzilla 6/10, Captain America: The Winter Soldier 7/10, X-Men: Days of Future Past 9/10
X-Maniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 07:14 AM   #14
X-Maniac
High Evolutionary
 
X-Maniac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Genosha
Posts: 12,850
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

A person with time-travel powers might be an interesting alternative to the usual MacGuffin of a machine/device.

__________________
Noah 3/10, Godzilla 6/10, Captain America: The Winter Soldier 7/10, X-Men: Days of Future Past 9/10
X-Maniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 07:40 AM   #15
Angamb
Banned User
 
Angamb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Spain
Posts: 13,348
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

yes, I like it more than an actual machine. Although having Forge creating the mach would be a cool watch too, so.... dont know! lol

too many great posibilites

Angamb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 08:49 AM   #16
Spider-Fan83
Thwip Thwip
 
Spider-Fan83's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,713
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

playing on both the time travel mutant power and using Rogue

I had this idea where, we open in the current/not to distant future timeline as it should be (taking past 5-10s after The Last Stand, or what of it they keep in continues) the team chasing down an unknown mutant, Rogue gets a jump on him/her and comes in connect long enough to absorb their power/memory, just before he/she breaks free an disappears (seemingly into thin air/in a bring light)...

then we see the world change around Rogue (with her remaining unaffected cause she still has the other mutants powers) she doesn't know whats going on and wonders outside trying to figure out where she is, entering into a war zone environment... someone like Cyclops comes running to her rescue just before being hit by falling debri (or something) yelling out to her "where did you come from" "what are you doing out here" "who are you"... she look at him confuse at his questions, saying "Cyclops your alive" "how?" "don't you remember me" "where are the other x-men"
he replys "who are the x-men" "what are you talking about" she looks around this "it's not suppose to be like this"... then gets a flash of the time-traveling Mutants memories (seeing where he was going) then {flash} she subconsciously actives her new found ability and both her an Cyclops disappear... then cut to the 60's

I know that radically differs from the comic...

Spider-Fan83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:45 AM   #17
X-Maniac
High Evolutionary
 
X-Maniac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Genosha
Posts: 12,850
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spider-Fan83 View Post
playing on both the time travel mutant power and using Rogue

I had this idea where, we open in the current/not to distant future timeline as it should be (taking past 5-10s after The Last Stand, or what of it they keep in continues) the team chasing down an unknown mutant, Rogue gets a jump on him/her and comes in connect long enough to absorb their power/memory, just before he/she breaks free an disappears (seemingly into thin air/in a bring light)...

then we see the world change around Rogue (with her remaining unaffected cause she still has the other mutants powers) she doesn't know whats going on and wonders outside trying to figure out where she is, entering into a war zone environment... someone like Cyclops comes running to her rescue just before being hit by falling debri (or something) yelling out to her "where did you come from" "what are you doing out here" "who are you"... she look at him confuse at his questions, saying "Cyclops your alive" "how?" "don't you remember me" "where are the other x-men"
he replys "who are the x-men" "what are you talking about" she looks around this "it's not suppose to be like this"... then gets a flash of the time-traveling Mutants memories (seeing where he was going) then {flash} she subconsciously actives her new found ability and both her an Cyclops disappear... then cut to the 60's

I know that radically differs from the comic...
Not bad. I don't mind at all that it differs from the comic: it's the spirit of the story that's important (time travel to stop a dystopian future).

I do like Rogue having a pivotal, expanded role. But what happens to the time-travelling mutant from whom she absorbs memories/powers? He can't just disappear and be forgotten or he's just a plot device.

The way I see it, the time travel has to be different from just being some random machine, and the best two ways are:

1) Forge modifies Cerebro to allow Xavier's consciousness to reach through time
2) Something like your suggestion of Rogue and a time-travel mutant

I really like the idea of Rogue being the traveller in that way, and with Cyclops it would be an extra special bonus.

__________________
Noah 3/10, Godzilla 6/10, Captain America: The Winter Soldier 7/10, X-Men: Days of Future Past 9/10

Last edited by X-Maniac; 11-22-2012 at 10:49 AM.
X-Maniac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 11:44 AM   #18
Spider-Fan83
Thwip Thwip
 
Spider-Fan83's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,713
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Maniac View Post
I do like Rogue having a pivotal, expanded role. But what happens to the time-travelling mutant from whom she absorbs memories/powers? He can't just disappear and be forgotten or he's just a plot device.
the time traveling mutant would be the antagonist/villain type character who causes the time line to alter with his traveling (rather its attentional/ accidental/ or even someone else pulling his strings) they would have to track him down and stop whatever he does to effect the future

needing to find him would probably lead them to seek Xavier (of the past)

plus, Rogue would only be able to hold his powers for a short time, so, if they don't find him it will be a one way trip

Spider-Fan83 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 06:19 PM   #19
josh8
Side-Kick
 
josh8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,644
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spider-Fan83 View Post
the time traveling mutant would be the antagonist/villain type character who causes the time line to alter with his traveling (rather its attentional/ accidental/ or even someone else pulling his strings) they would have to track him down and stop whatever he does to effect the future

needing to find him would probably lead them to seek Xavier (of the past)

plus, Rogue would only be able to hold his powers for a short time, so, if they don't find him it will be a one way trip
Great ideas!

It would be cool if Rogue accidentally ended up in a different time and pulled in a fan-favorite character.

I wouldn't mind if the time-traveling mutant weren't the focus. The fact that he/she sparks the entire conflict of the movie is the contribution! Just give that character a moment to shine (which is more than I can say for tons of characters in this franchise) and all is good!

But I also wouldn't mind if that mutant ended up being an antagonist like how in the comics there's Fitzroy, Bishop, Legion, etc. I wouldn't want Fitzroy though haha... he's lame.

josh8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 09:16 AM   #20
Angamb
Banned User
 
Angamb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Spain
Posts: 13,348
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

its really different, yes... but I LOVE it!! lol

honestly, its a great idea, specially having Rogue seeing other mutant memories and that meet with Scott. really original, at least for the franchise.

we'll see what happens, but if Singer uses Rogue, I really hope he shows how Rogues powers are much more than just gettings others habilities.

Angamb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2012, 07:01 AM   #21
psylockolussus
The X-Men 5 Advocator!
 
psylockolussus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: The future, where else would I be?
Posts: 17,832
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

I don't imagine Gateway appearing in any of the X-Men movies. I see a mutant from the future (Beast or Forge or Cable - if they don't want use to Forge and Beast) creating a time machine to go back to the past. I hope time travel wouldn't sound and look complicated, just make it simple and direct like the time travel of the TV show Heroes. I feel like alternate universe is too early for the X-Men movies.

__________________
X-MEN RI5E' MUTANT OF THE MONTH | ICEMAN | PORTRAYED BY SHAWN ASHMORE
"Welcome to mutant high" - X1
"Call me Iceman" - X2
"Don't ever do that again" - X3
"They'll find us they'll always do" - X4
JOIN MY ADVOCACY ON www.twitter.com/xmen5movie2018/
psylockolussus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2012, 10:32 AM   #22
josh8
Side-Kick
 
josh8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,644
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Actually, I've thought about it again and I don't think I want the time-traveler to be an antagonist. I'd much rather have the Brotherhood be the ones that are causing the event in the past.

I prefer the time-traveler to just be a cameo and to basically just strike the match that ignites the rest of the story.

josh8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2012, 10:33 AM   #23
lancimouspitt
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 101
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Though I doubt this would ever happen,I think it would be interesting if Jean in X3 didn't kill scott,but sent him into another time. A lot of what happened to him went unanswered so I think that would be cool. Perhaps she knew something about the future that would happen down the road and mustered enough humanity to send scott to stop it?
Just my thought.

lancimouspitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2012, 11:06 AM   #24
Phoenix_Flare
Side-Kick
 
Phoenix_Flare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: milwaukee, wi
Posts: 640
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

I personally liked how W&Xmen series had Xavier using a damaged Cerebro to communicate w/the team, so what if Jean (Famke) or another powerful telepath, used cerebro on the time traveler and had their mind, travel back in time to there younger self? It'll be great use for Cerebro, since i have a feeling we won't be seeing it in the sequel if this film is set a couple of yrs after.

Phoenix_Flare is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2012, 06:58 PM   #25
lancimouspitt
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 101
Default Re: Ideas on how to achieve time travel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix_Flare View Post
I personally liked how W&Xmen series had Xavier using a damaged Cerebro to communicate w/the team, so what if Jean (Famke) or another powerful telepath, used cerebro on the time traveler and had their mind, travel back in time to there younger self? It'll be great use for Cerebro, since i have a feeling we won't be seeing it in the sequel if this film is set a couple of yrs after.
Yeah I feel more should have been or should be said about Cerebro. It was a major player in X1,had a big role in X2,yet in X3 nothing of it's ramifications at the hands of Striker was mentioned.

lancimouspitt is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:24 AM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.