> Design FOX's Production AGENDA since DOFP (2014-2022)

[Angamb]

Hi all X-men fanatics

Take this topic as a game with four rules, if you want it. With the following:

Rule 1: Post your list first
Rule 2: Discuss later, lol (either your vission, other users one, or both)
Rule 3: The list must cover this timeslot: 2014-2022, as the tittle says.
Rule 4: your list must include both XMen and F4 movies.

Take this as a help

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2014: X-Men: Days of future past
2015: Fantastic Four Reborn
2016:
2017:
2018:
2019:
2020:
2021:
2022:

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About rule 2, I mean, of course you can discuss someone else vission/list first lol, but the main reason of this topic is to share as many lists as possible, and a bit less discussion, to make it a bit funnier

about rule 4, since Fox owns two Marvel properties, this is a key factor, since this leads to Foxs money and budgets for these adaptations, so we should think about how Fox could handle the sequels to both franchises during upcoming years, will they alternate franchises each year? or that could change?... so lets think about that.

We have already discussed all the possibilities, First Class sequels, X4 and 5, x-men spin-offs, a crossover with two franchises..... so dont miss any of these possibilities.

And of course, lets take into account ALL factors: money, actors, casts, time gap, competition, passage of time...... all of it.

Think about all of this taking your time, and once you elaborate your list, share it with all of us, while enjoying other users vission.

[psylockolussus]

2014: X-Men: Days of Future Past
2015: The Fantastic Four
2016: X-Men 4
2017: The Fantastic Four: Part II
2018: X-Men 5
2019: The Fantastic Four: Part III
2020: X-Men 6
2021: X-Men & Fantastic Four
2022: The Fantastic Four: Part IV

Basically I just want FOX to focus on the original X-Men series (I don't want spin-offs and prequels anymore) and the new Fantastic Four movie series. For the casual audience, its easy to follow.

[psylockolussus]

Originally Posted by psylockolussus

2014: X-Men: Days of Future Past
2015: The Fantastic Four
2016: X-Men 4
2017: The Fantastic Four: Part II
2018: X-Men 5
2019: The Fantastic Four: Part III
2020: X-Men 6
2021: X-Men & Fantastic Four
2022: The Fantastic Four: Part IV

Basically I just want FOX to focus on the original X-Men series (I don't want spin-offs and prequels anymore) and the new Fantastic Four movie series. For the casual audience, its easy to follow.

I'm revising my list and I decided that I don't want a cross-movie between X-Men and Fantastic Four

X-MEN
2014: X-Men: Days of Future Past
-cross-over movie and its like X3.5 and FC1.5
-last movie featuring the First Class cast

2016: X-Men: Age of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 4
-I want Apocalypse to be the main antagonist for the next trilogy but he doesn't appear in this movie right from the start, I want FOX to save him in the last scene kinda like what Avengers did to Thanos in the 1st Avengers movie
-Mr. Sinister is the head villain and he's working on for the return of Apocalypse, like in Ultimate X-Men but in this one, he doesn't need to sacrifice himself
-Returning X-Men: Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Iceman, Colossus, Shadowcat, Angel
-New addition to the X-Men: Psylocke

2018: X-Men: Rise of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 5
-So this the movie where the X-Men finally meets Apocalypse. The X-Men is not going to defeat Apocalypse in this one, well not yet.
-Towards the end of the movie, Apocalypse will capture Angel and Beast.

2020: X-Men: End of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 6
-Introduction of the 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse including Archangel.
-Beast is going to be Dark Beast in this one. He works for Apocalypse but not one of the horsemen.
-X-Men defeats Apocalypse in this movie.

2022: X-Men: Goes to Space
-aka X-Men 7
-Introduction of the Shi'ar Empire
-Start of the last trilogy of the X-Men movie series

2024: X-Men: Onslaught Strikes Back
-aka X-Men 8
-Introduction of Onslaught
-X-Men and Shi'ar join forces to defeat Onslaught

2025: X-Men: The End
-aka X-Men 9
-X-Men beats Onslaught in this movie.
-Well someday, FOX will have to reboot this movie series and it would be very fitting if they end this 25 years after the 1st X-Men movie was released.

FANTASTIC FOUR
2015: The Fantastic Four
2017: The Fantastic Four Part II
2019: The Fantastic Four Part III
2021: The Fantastic Four Part IV

Since its Fantastic "Four", I think a quadrilogy would be ideal to this series. I'm not familiar with the FF universe so I don't have suggestions for characters and villains.

[Marv]

Originally Posted by psylockolussus

I'm revising my list and I decided that I don't want a cross-movie between X-Men and Fantastic Four

X-MEN
2014: X-Men: Days of Future Past
-cross-over movie and its like X3.5 and FC1.5
-last movie featuring the First Class cast

2016: X-Men: Age of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 4
-I want Apocalypse to be the main antagonist for the next trilogy but he doesn't appear in this movie right from the start, I want FOX to save him in the last scene kinda like what Avengers did to Thanos in the 1st Avengers movie
-Mr. Sinister is the head villain and he's working on for the return of Apocalypse, like in Ultimate X-Men but in this one, he doesn't need to sacrifice himself
-Returning X-Men: Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Iceman, Colossus, Shadowcat, Angel
-New addition to the X-Men: Psylocke

2018: X-Men: Rise of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 5
-So this the movie where the X-Men finally meets Apocalypse. The X-Men is not going to defeat Apocalypse in this one, well not yet.
-Towards the end of the movie, Apocalypse will capture Angel and Beast.

2020: X-Men: End of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 6
-Introduction of the 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse including Archangel.
-Beast is going to be Dark Beast in this one. He works for Apocalypse but not one of the horsemen.
-X-Men defeats Apocalypse in this movie.

2022: X-Men: Goes to Space
-aka X-Men 7
-Introduction of the Shi'ar Empire
-Start of the last trilogy of the X-Men movie series

2024: X-Men: Onslaught Strikes Back
-aka X-Men 8
-Introduction of Onslaught
-X-Men and Shi'ar join forces to defeat Onslaught

2025: X-Men: The End
-aka X-Men 9
-X-Men beats Onslaught in this movie.
-Well someday, FOX will have to reboot this movie series and it would be very fitting if they end this 25 years after the 1st X-Men movie was released.

FANTASTIC FOUR
2015: The Fantastic Four
2017: The Fantastic Four Part II
2019: The Fantastic Four Part III
2021: The Fantastic Four Part IV

Since its Fantastic "Four", I think a quadrilogy would be ideal to this series. I'm not familiar with the FF universe so I don't havesuggestions for characters and villain.

All this would be a dream come true. I see the studio going in a different direction though, yet still a very ambitious one. Here's what I'd like to see:

2015: The Fantastic Four

2016: Wolverine III (takes place in Madripoor & directly before The Mutant Massacre. Sabertooth is the villain)

2017: X-Men: The Mutant Massacre (third film starring McAvoy, Fassbender & Lawrence; set in the 80s with Cyclops leading the team, Sinister as the villain, supporting roles by Sabertooth & Gambit; sets up Apocalypse)

2018: The Fantastic Four: Part II

2020: X-Men: The Apocalypse (fourth and final film starring McAvoy, Fassbender & Lawrence; takes place in the present and features Angel along with the Four Horsemen. Xavier is killed, movie ends with Wolverine visiting his grave in a cameo)

2021: The Fantastic Four: Part III

2022: Old Man Logan (takes place 100 years after Xavier's death at the hands of Apocalypse in a post-apocalyptic Mad Max-style North America. Wolverine is the last remaining mutant and lives secluded. He learns that a boy who can read people's minds has been captured by a local tribe. He rescues the boy who ends up being a descendant of Xavier's & the movie ends with Wolverine taking him in. In the final scene, he asks the boy to read his mind. After a few flashes of seeing what's in Logan's head, he asks "Who are the X-Men?" Logan smiles and the credits roll.

[Angamb]

Originally Posted by Marv

2020: X-Men: The Apocalypse (fourth and final film starring McAvoy, Fassbender & Lawrence; takes place in the present and features Angel along with the Four Horsemen. Xavier is killed, movie ends with Wolverine visiting his grave in a cameo)

I gues with present do you mean our present, right?

in that case, James and Michael should look like 60 years old Charles and Erik, just like Patrick and Ian look today.

Do you think they will age them to make them look that old?

its not sarcarm, ok, just a curiosity

[Marv]

Originally Posted by Angamb

I gues with present do you mean our present, right?

in that case, James and Michael should look like 60 years old Charles and Erik, just like Patrick and Ian look today.

Do you think they will age them to make them look that old?

its not sarcarm, ok, just a curiosity

Well, I'd age them with practical effects. They'd be in their late 70s.

[psylockolussus]

Originally Posted by psylockolussus

I'm revising my list and I decided that I don't want a cross-movie between X-Men and Fantastic Four

X-MEN
2014: X-Men: Days of Future Past
-cross-over movie and its like X3.5 and FC1.5
-last movie featuring the First Class cast

2016: X-Men: Age of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 4
-I want Apocalypse to be the main antagonist for the next trilogy but he doesn't appear in this movie right from the start, I want FOX to save him in the last scene kinda like what Avengers did to Thanos in the 1st Avengers movie
-Mr. Sinister is the head villain and he's working on for the return of Apocalypse, like in Ultimate X-Men but in this one, he doesn't need to sacrifice himself
-Returning X-Men: Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Iceman, Colossus, Shadowcat, Angel
-New addition to the X-Men: Psylocke

2018: X-Men: Rise of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 5
-So this the movie where the X-Men finally meets Apocalypse. The X-Men is not going to defeat Apocalypse in this one, well not yet.
-Towards the end of the movie, Apocalypse will capture Angel and Beast.

2020: X-Men: End of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 6
-Introduction of the 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse including Archangel.
-Beast is going to be Dark Beast in this one. He works for Apocalypse but not one of the horsemen.
-X-Men defeats Apocalypse in this movie.

2022: X-Men: Goes to Space
-aka X-Men 7
-Introduction of the Shi'ar Empire
-Start of the last trilogy of the X-Men movie series

2024: X-Men: Onslaught Strikes Back
-aka X-Men 8
-Introduction of Onslaught
-X-Men and Shi'ar join forces to defeat Onslaught

2025: X-Men: The End
-aka X-Men 9
-X-Men beats Onslaught in this movie.
-Well someday, FOX will have to reboot this movie series and it would be very fitting if they end this 25 years after the 1st X-Men movie was released.

FANTASTIC FOUR
2015: The Fantastic Four
2017: The Fantastic Four Part II
2019: The Fantastic Four Part III
2021: The Fantastic Four Part IV

Since its Fantastic "Four", I think a quadrilogy would be ideal to this series. I'm not familiar with the FF universe so I don't have suggestions for characters and villains.

Okay I'm revising my list for third time. I'm not fickle or wishy washy but I just think about the future of this series so much, I can't help but change my ideas.


X-MEN
2014: X-Men: Days of Future Past
-aka X-Men 4
-last movie featuring the First Class cast

2016: X-Men 5inister: Mutant Massacre
-aka X-Men 5
-Mr. Sinister is the head villain and he's working on for the return of Apocalypse, like in Ultimate X-Men but in this one, he doesn't need to sacrifice himself. He's gonna kill and hunt a couple of mutants for Apocalypse.
-Apocalypse doesn't appear in this movie right from the start, I want FOX to save him in the last scene kinda like what Avengers did to Thanos in the 1st Avengers movie
-Originally, I want Apocalypse to be the main antagonist for the next trilogy but 3 movies with Apocalypse being the villain would be a bit tiring and Magneto was the main antagonist for just 2 films (X1/X3). So two movies for Apocalypse, in the first movie, Mr. Sinister is doing the work for him and in the 2nd movie, he gets to fight with the X-Men.
-Returning X-Men: Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Iceman, Colossus, Shadowcat, Angel, Bishop (if he's in DOFP)
-New addition to the X-Men: Psylocke
-More character development and bigger role to Angel and Colossus. Angel gets captured by Apocalypse at the climax of the movie!
-And since Mr. Sinister is hunting and killing mutants in this one. I want this movie to have an adventure feeling, like the X-Men are going to different places and locations like the Morlock Tunnels, Egypt, Savage Land, Muir Island to hunt down Mr. Sinister.

2018: X-Men: Age of Apocalypse
-aka X-Men 6
-So this the movie where the X-Men finally meets Apocalypse.
-Introduction of the 4 Horsemen of Apocalypse including Archangel.
-Beast is going to be Dark Beast in this one. He works for Apocalypse but not one of the horsemen.
-X-Men defeats Apocalypse in this movie.
-End credits scene - a mysterious woman from the outer space named Lilandra came to Earth.

2020: X-Men: Goes to Space
-aka X-Men 7
-Introduction of the Shi'ar Empire
-Start of the last trilogy of the X-Men movie series

2022: X-Men: Onslaught Strikes Back
-aka X-Men 8
-Introduction of Onslaught
-X-Men and Shi'ar join forces to defeat Onslaught

2025: X-Men: The End
-aka X-Men 9
-X-Men beats Onslaught in this movie.
-Well someday, FOX will have to reboot this movie series and it would be very fitting if they end this 25 years after the 1st X-Men movie was released.

So 12 movies in 25 years!

[Angamb]

a X-men team movie each two years would be more than Amazing.

not sure if Fox has the balls to do it, tho. Im afraid they havent

but if I was on Fox, I'd push for it, for sure. This is the right moment to get the original cast, if they dont do it now, they will waste such a huge opportunity.

X4 and X5 directed by Singer back to back would be ****ing epic and such a gift to x-men fans. I hoooooooope at least they are discussing it

[def28]

2014: X-Men: Days of future past
2015: Fantastic Four Reborn, Deadpool
2016: X Men flick lead by Cyclops
2017: Uncanny X Force: Dark Angel Saga (destroys all previous X men films and sets up AOA),FF2
2018: Deadpol 2, AOA
2019: Silver Surfer solo,
2020:FF3,UXF 2
2021:X-Men 11teen
2022: Silver Surfer 2

[X-Maniac]

Originally Posted by def28

2014: X-Men: Days of future past
2015: Fantastic Four Reborn, Deadpool
2016: X Men flick lead by Cyclops
2017: Uncanny X Force: Dark Angel Saga (destroys all previous X men films and sets up AOA),FF2
2018: Deadpol 2, AOA
2019: Silver Surfer solo,
2020:FF3,UXF 2
2021:X-Men 11teen
2022: Silver Surfer 2

I like your list, though I'm wondering who else they could feature in a Silver Surfer movie to flesh out the character roster and cast.

[def28]

Originally Posted by X-Maniac

I like your list, though I'm wondering who else they could feature in a Silver Surfer movie to flesh out the character roster and cast.

Besides Norrin, Shala and Galactus I havnt really given it much thought. I would think most the film would be on his planet. Probably are limited to characters due to all the properties Marvel holds. I guess One Surfer movie and then a Surfer/Galactus/Fantastic Four mash up would work the best.

Does Fox own Annihilus?

[X-Maniac]

Originally Posted by def28

Besides Norrin, Shala and Galactus I havnt really given it much thought. I would think most the film would be on his planet. Probably are limited to characters due to all the properties Marvel holds. I guess One Surfer movie and then a Surfer/Galactus/Fantastic Four mash up would work the best.

Does Fox own Annihilus?

I don't think they own Annihilus, but I think they own Skrulls. Didn't Wheedon say they couldn't use Skrulls in the Avengers because Fox owned them?

Also, Fox would be able to use Frankie Raye who had Human Torch-like powers and was transformed into a herald of Galactus, taking the name Nova and wielding cosmic powers. They might also be able to add Binary into the mix (but probably couldn't reference her Carol Danvers identity), and maybe even the Starjammers and Shi'ar (as chances of seeing those in the X-Men films seem slim).

There are also all the other heralds of Galactus. And, if they'd done Phoenix like the comics as a cosmic entity, there would even be chance to bring her in.

[psylockolussus]

Originally Posted by Angamb

a X-men team movie each two years would be more than Amazing.

not sure if Fox has the balls to do it, tho. Im afraid they havent

I think FOX has the balls to do it. The gap between the first 2 Fantastic Four films was just 2 years and the gap between Origins/First Class and First Class/TheWolverine are 2 years too. The issue with FOX is they really want to make spin-off movies after X3 and thats why we got Origins/FirstClass/TheWolverine instead of X-Men 4.

[Angamb]

Originally Posted by psylockolussus

I think FOX has the balls to do it. The gap between the first 2 Fantastic Four films was just 2 years and the gap between Origins/First Class and First Class/TheWolverine are 2 years too. The issue with FOX is they really want to make spin-off movies after X3 and thats why we got Origins/FirstClass/TheWolverine instead of X-Men 4.

you made a good point with the F4 time gap, I didnt remember that.

And Sony is doing it too with Amazing Spiderman reboot, so....

why Fox cant do it?

[psylockolussus]

Originally Posted by Angamb

you made a good point with the F4 time gap, I didnt remember that.

And Sony is doing it too with Amazing Spiderman reboot, so....

why Fox cant do it?

Like I said the gap between Origins: Wolverine/First Class was just two years and the gap between First Class and The Wolverine is two years too. FOX can absolutely it. They probably gave X2/X3/Origins a three years gap just because they wanted to take more time for the development of the movies and the gap always worked for them. They probably lessen the gap now because they want to make more X-Men movies.

[Cherry]

Originally Posted by psylockolussus

Like I said the gap between Origins: Wolverine/First Class was just two years and the gap between First Class and The Wolverine is two years too. FOX can absolutely it. They probably gave X2/X3/Origins a three years gap just because they wanted to take more time for the development of the movies and the gap always worked for them. They probably lessen the gap now because they want to make more X-Men movies.

Case in point: the gap between The Wolverine and DOFP is one year.

[marvelrobbins]

You do realize that

a:To have Cyclops lead X-Men film you eather have to have time travel undo the Last Stand to resurrect him at end or jump to 1980's and already have a prequel lineup of hi,Jean,storm,and maybe beast
B:a big part of age of apocalpse Is trying to restore the timeline
C:To have Silver surfer solo film you have to put him In a FF sequel first

Uncanny X-Force sounds like It was after I quit getting marvel comics In 2005 due to Quesda regime so I don't know what kind of timeline or what Dark Angel Is.

[def28]

Originally Posted by marvelrobbins

You do realize that

a:To have Cyclops lead X-Men film you eather have to have time travel undo the Last Stand to resurrect him at end or jump to 1980's and already have a prequel lineup of hi,Jean,storm,and maybe beast
B:a big part of age of apocalpse Is trying to restore the timeline
C:To have Silver surfer solo film you have to put him In a FF sequel first

Uncanny X-Force sounds like It was after I quit getting marvel comics In 2005 due to Quesda regime so I don't know what kind of timeline or what Dark Angel Is.

Its 616 and AOA. X Men comics are great right now.

A. I expect Cyclops to be fixed at the end of DOFP in some way.
B. In no way do I think an AOA movie wil be comic accurate. Not saying thinngs will or wont happen but Im sure Alt universes will be a huge part of Future X Films.
C. I disagree 100% about SS.

Cyclops back as team leader, Wolverine or Cable led X Force Film and a Silver Surfer Solo should be all part of Foxs schedule in the next 10 years. If not, then they still dont give a ****.

The list is just what I want to see. Until I know how DOFP ends its all guessing with no evidence on what may happen at this point X Men wise.

[marvelrobbins]

Originally Posted by def28

Its 616 and AOA. X Men comics are great right now.

A. I expect Cyclops to be fixed at the end of DOFP in some way.
B. In no way do I think an AOA movie wil be comic accurate. Not saying thinngs will or wont happen but Im sure Alt universes will be a huge part of Future X Films.
C. I disagree 100% about SS.

I dont think Fox will come close to what I put down, just what I want to see. Until I know how DOFP ends its all guessing with no evidence on what may happen at this point X Men wise.

After what you posted I looked up Uncanny X-Force.It would be opportunity for me wolverine.It would be Intresting to actuully put Deadpool on a X Team.

The best way to AoA on screen would be time traveler returns to future at end of DOFP to discover the future with sentinles has been prevented but now an age of Apocaypse has come.That gives you another film of showing this alternate world and time traveler(In place of Bishop) trying to restore
the timeline.One change will be No magneto.I am fairly certin Ian Mckellen's last film as Magneto will be DOFP.Now Patrick Stewert could do more after DOFP since Xavier Is In Wheelcahir.And possabilty could be Cyclops In place of Magneto as leader of aoa X-Men

A Silver srfer solo film could focus on his origin,and time before they would do a new Galactus arrival on Earth.

Once more details are known about DOFP It will be easier to specuate.

[def28]

Yeah, pretty much agreed on everything you said. It would be interesting if they went from DOFP to AOA.

[bubbadoom]

Originally Posted by marvelrobbins

You do realize that

a:To have Cyclops lead X-Men film you eather have to have time travel undo the Last Stand to resurrect him at end or jump to 1980's and already have a prequel lineup of hi,Jean,storm,and maybe beast
B:a big part of age of apocalpse Is trying to restore the timeline
C:To have Silver surfer solo film you have to put him In a FF sequel first

Uncanny X-Force sounds like It was after I quit getting marvel comics In 2005 due to Quesda regime so I don't know what kind of timeline or what Dark Angel Is.

WHY?

Fox could do a Surfer origin film right now before rebooting the FF if they wanted to - one has nothing to do with the other.

[Angamb]

I did two versions of my list a few weeks ago, I'll post it tomorrow and will comment your lists too, guys

[magneto23]

2014: DOFP
2015: FF
2016: Cable
2017: FF2, FC3- Mr.Sinister
2018:X4- Apocalypse
2019: FC4
2020:FF/X-Men crossover
2021: X5
2022: FC5, FF3

[Angamb]

I kind of supposed it, but wasnt sure at all, he

I like that most of us are already breaking the three years gap between x-men sequels, I think if Fox wants to keep using both casts, they should really do it, because if they wait three more years for X4 and three more for X5, the age factor could make them to stop using the original cast before an actual X5, when they could easily shot them back to back and to realease them in two years, like the Hobbit, or Twilight final parts.

With the FC cast they dont have age problem, since in this case it would be a positive factor, to move on to another decade with a more realistic look for the actors.

I think the very next movie after DOFP should be X4, for sure. But if they dont do it now, they would have missed the PERFECT moment to do it, and they could not do it ever.

its now or never, Fox.

[Angamb]

how would you plan the next movies xmaniac?

would be great to read your list