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Old 02-06-2013, 06:50 PM   #1
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In Arrow 1×13 “Betrayal” guest starring David Anders – Cyrus Vanch (David Anders), a nefarious criminal, is recently released from prison and intends to re-secure his position as leader of the underworld. His first step is to take down his biggest opponent in the city — Arrow (Stephen Amell). Meanwhile, Oliver shows Moira (Susanna Thompson) his father’s notebook and questions her about the names on the list. Thea (Willa Holland) is miserable as she starts her internship with Laurel (Katie Cassidy) at the legal aid office and Detective Lance (Paul Blackthorne) makes a deadly mistake that puts Laurel in the crosshairs of Vanch. David Ramsey and Colin Donnell also star.

Probably Dinahs best episode to date I would have to say.

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Old 02-06-2013, 07:03 PM   #2
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it was a great episode. DO NOT WATCH PROMO AFTER. spoils cliffhanger

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Old 02-06-2013, 07:05 PM   #3
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Having there be 2 "deathstrokes" is an interesting idea....

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Old 02-06-2013, 07:07 PM   #4
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Yeah, I'm not sure I 100% like it but I think it's obvious as to what's going to happen. The deathstroke mask we saw in the pilot is defo not slade's.

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Old 02-07-2013, 03:16 PM   #5
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Yeah, I'm not sure I 100% like it but I think it's obvious as to what's going to happen. The deathstroke mask we saw in the pilot is defo not slade's.
Like I said over in the Deathstroke thread. I believe that mask is Slade's, I think that is what was the result of the fight between Oliver and Slade. If you remember the mask had an arrow through the eye of the blue side which is Slade's blind eye.
So I feel that Slade and Ollie are fine now but something comes between them they fight and Ollie puts an arrow in his eye.

It reminds me of a panel in Identity Crisis, after Deathstroke basically handed the Justice League their butts Ollie stuck an arrow in Slade's bad eye. A few pages later Ollie is on a rooftop and the "camera angle" is giving us first person view and they show a glass window with Ollie standing there plus Deathstroke and when Ollie saw this and turned around he was gone all that was left was his mask with an arrow in the bad eye, and a note saying this is yours until next time.

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Old 02-06-2013, 08:06 PM   #6
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It was a really good ep. Especially liked the end scene

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Old 02-06-2013, 08:10 PM   #7
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Awesome episode!

I got big chills when he said
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Cannot wait till next week!

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Old 02-06-2013, 09:04 PM   #8
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I've never seen this Manu Bennett guy act before, but I'm loving him already. I can already picture him as Deathstroke.

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You could almost hear the conflict and disbelief in his voice when telling her that. It was almost like he was telling her, "Moira Queen, you have failed your family."

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Old 02-06-2013, 08:14 PM   #9
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Agree that was great.

And Oliver taking out all the guards to get to Laurel was probably his most bad ass moment in the series so far IMO.

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Old 02-06-2013, 08:17 PM   #10
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^^^ I agree

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Old 02-06-2013, 08:43 PM   #11
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Great episode with Oliver at his badass when it comes to Dinah, who was put in harm's way by her dad. It seems whatever Felicity did last week is being felt in this episode when Oliver didn't believe it throughout and the end scene leads into next week's episode. This is why I'm enjoying this series as one episode leads into the next, whereas Smallville has self-contained episodes except when it comes to season finales.

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Old 02-06-2013, 09:07 PM   #12
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Nice episode, things are progressing.

Did not like that Oliver does not realize the number of Arrows he has, yea just starting out but thats still sloppy. Also thought it was silly how the episode ended. I thought he was gonna go get more details not conclude shes already guilty.

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Old 02-06-2013, 11:22 PM   #13
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Also thought it was silly how the episode ended. I thought he was gonna go get more details not conclude shes already guilty.
Maybe he's confronting Moira for more answers?

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Old 02-08-2013, 03:44 PM   #14
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Nice episode, things are progressing.

Did not like that Oliver does not realize the number of Arrows he has, yea just starting out but thats still sloppy.
I took it that was part of Ollie's plan to get inside.That's why he took Lance with him,because he knew he'd need help/be out of ammo by the time he got inside.

I don't think Ollie's that Green.


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Old 02-06-2013, 10:01 PM   #15
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They should get this stunt team to handle the next batman film incursions, the stuff in this ep was pretty on point. Loved when he crashed the office too. This is what I've been missing from bats.
(using the mini projectile to disarm the detective was also good).

I prey that Slade ends up with grey hair. Manu would look gnarly with it.

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Old 02-06-2013, 11:21 PM   #16
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Glad reception on Slade is good! I got kind of R'as vibe from his voice, but he was still his own character. Loved it.

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Old 02-06-2013, 11:27 PM   #17
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He's just going to interrogate her but the whole line "you have failed this city" has been used repeatedly by him against someone he knows is guilty. Also did he really need to bust through a window and take out the guards, couldn't he have just come out of the shadows somewhere when she's alone.

Then again I understand its just to be dramatic. He has to say some cool line and swing through a window.

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Old 02-07-2013, 04:46 PM   #18
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He's just going to interrogate her but the whole line "you have failed this city" has been used repeatedly by him against someone he knows is guilty. Also did he really need to bust through a window and take out the guards, couldn't he have just come out of the shadows somewhere when she's alone.

Then again I understand its just to be dramatic. He has to say some cool line and swing through a window.
Yeah, terrible, your idea is so much better!

We could nitpick the genre and its tropes the whole day, like GA, Batman (among others) escaping death time after time, incompetent villains, shooters, etc. It doesn't really make sense, but it is what it is.

Anyway, easily one of the best episodes of the season, Manu Bennett did a great job as Slade. It should be pretty interesting to see how him and Oliver survived the whole thing, plus the evolution of the main plot with the Queen family and its consequences, the best is yet to come!


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Old 02-07-2013, 01:47 AM   #19
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Wow just wow. Best episode yet. Now that is my kind of superhero show

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Old 02-07-2013, 02:01 AM   #20
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Incredible episode. Second favoriitr behind the dark archer one. Manu reminded me of Neeson and I loved it.

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Old 02-07-2013, 05:18 AM   #21
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I hope Slade and Ollie will eventually be at each other throats after the 5 years. I like how they are forced to work together now, but I don't want them to remain like friends. And I hope we'll eventually get to see the two Deathstrokes fight. Honestly, I didn't see that coming, that they are a two man team.

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Amazing episode this show just gets better and better each week. Vantheman77 I agree with you 100% about the episodes tying into each other it gives the story arc more depth.

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Amazing episode this show just gets better and better each week. Vantheman77 I agree with you 100% about the episodes tying into each other it gives the story arc more depth.
I think it's going to get more better when they build up to the season finale.

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Old 02-07-2013, 01:04 PM   #24
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This episode was great. The guy playing Slade is fantastic. And that ending!

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Old 02-07-2013, 03:06 PM   #25
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Much better than last week's episode.

Ollie should really just stick with the voice changer at all times.

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