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Old 03-10-2013, 09:20 AM   #1
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:20 AM   #3
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I guess I'll stick with Superman even if h'ell on earth was mediocre.

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Old 03-15-2013, 05:25 AM   #4
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I am really excited for what is to come for Superman. I am really optimistic about the future of "Superman" with Lobdell and Rocafort on it. I know I am probably in the minority but I can wait for Morrison to be done with Action so only one issue to go before the new creative team starts. Superman Unchained should be incredible with Snyder and Lee. The only one I really have my doubts about is the Superman/Batman book. How in the world will Justice League #1/#2 make sense if they supposedly already encountered previous to that? I guess we shall see.

The one thing I REALLY want to see but I don't think it is going to happen is putting Superman into a new suit. Seriously. the one shown in Superman #0 was WAYYYY better and I hope somehow they shift to that, but Red and Blue of course.

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The one I'm most confident about is Batman/Superman. Retcons aside, I'm confident Pak will put together a great book and I'm sure the art will be stunning. When Superman Unchained comes out I'm not sure if I'll stick to Action Comics or just drop it and start reading Unchained as my Superman solo title.

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I'm so obsessed with Superman that I'll read everything. H'el on Earth was such a joy for me because it was like Superman had a title out every week between Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Action, and Justice League

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Batman/Superman should be fun. It'll essentially replace both Action Comics and Batman for me when Morrison leaves the former.

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I hate the Lee costume. Hates it. Please, team DC, adopt the movie costume. Please.

The stories have been pretty much mediocre and, at times, incoherent. Please, get the writers to slow down and think things through before committing your stories to paper.

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I really wish there was more discussion in this thread. I always come check it and nothing. CBR posted an interview with the 4 current Superman writers Andy Diggle (Action Comics), Scott Lobdell (Superman), Greg Pak (Batman/Superman) and Scott Snyder (Superman Unchained) and It just makes me more excited and optimistic.

I definitely agree though with the guy above about Lee's re-imagining of the costume. The thing I dislike the most about the New 52 is Superman's Costume. The New 52 has its flaws but overall I am happy with what they did. It's just that dang Suit, and the more I think about it the more I realize it bugs me. I don't mind that they ditched the undies, I knew that it was sort of inevitable. I'd say the collar bugs me more than anything else but there are plenty of other things i can complain about. I just wish it would be fixed. What upsets me the most is knowing that it will most likely never change. this is what we will be stuck with for a long time. I just cant think of why or how they would explain changing the suit at this point. But i pray everyday that they figure out a way

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They had a great oportunity during the H'el story, when Superboy needed it to survive. I was thinking, "This is it! He can finally get rid of that damn costume!" But lo and behold, Jim Lee likes things done his way.

What's funny is that is apparent that some artists don't like it, either. The guy who's doing Superman/Batman, for instance. In that piece of promo art it's pretty obvious that he doesn't like the new suit, as he gives it the same fold lines (particularly in the trunks area) of the classic suit.

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They had a great oportunity during the H'el story, when Superboy needed it to survive. I was thinking, "This is it! He can finally get rid of that damn costume!" But lo and behold, Jim Lee likes things done his way.

What's funny is that is apparent that some artists don't like it, either. The guy who's doing Superman/Batman, for instance. In that piece of promo art it's pretty obvious that he doesn't like the new suit, as he gives it the same fold lines (particularly in the trunks area) of the classic suit.
I was thinking the same thing during H'el on Earth, Desperately hoping that it would happen.

I know that Brett Booth, Artist that drew Teen Titans and now Nightwing, he does a sketch every Saturday and he drew Superman in his 0 issue suit and said how he hopes it is the new permanent suit... "In a cool new outfit from Superman 0. Not sure what the deal is with it, permanent? Hopefully!"

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The whole body armor fad comes off as a bad attempt to make everything "grounded" like Nolan's Batman. It works for Batman 'cause he has no superpowers. That makes him an exception, not some golden standard.

Action #19 looks good. I still have no clue how Morrison's going to wrap up all this in one issue.

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i think that the whole idea of his suit kind of materializing on command is a little far fetched but i could live with it. Its appearance is the only thing thats truly bothers me

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I actually like the collar and the lack of trunks, but i don't like all of the lines in the costume/armor. It seems some artists (like Tony Daniel) are ignoring all of the lines and making the suit look more like a costume, and less like armor. I definitely prefer Tony Daniel's rendition of the costume over Jim Lee's.

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I'm over the costume. I'm just not especially interested in the New 52 incarnation of Superman. Morrison's been the only person who can handle his brashness with any sort of subtlety; Johns seemed to just write him as an arrogant jerk in Justice League. Has he been better in the other Superman comics? I haven't read any of those. Hopefully Pak can balance him out a bit in Batman/Superman.

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Tony Daniel's work is amazing, there are definitely panels though that make his suit REALLY look like armor. I am excited to see their return to krypton story arc. (I am pretty sure that is what they are doing) It will be cool as well to see Tony drawing Superman in that awesome suit shown in Superman #0. If only they would make that the official suit but red and blue.

Its refreshing sometimes to see Superman written in a different way. I would say its almost comical when he is really confident and arrogant. He is powerful and he knows it. Like when he fights Red Hood and the Outlaws and he is pretty much like... Come on guys, seriously. I'm Superman. You don't have a chance, stopping wasting my time. haha. However I do agree that when he comes in charging in Justice League, that is pretty out of character. Attack first ask questions later doesn't seem like Superman. But everyone knows that whenever 2 superheroes meet, they HAVE to fight. its the rules.

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I still don't get why Superman needs an armoured suit at all.

However, I do love how it materialises. It reeks of nano-tech, and it stands to reason that as humans are already on the fringes of developing nano-technology, and Kryptonians are meant to be significantly more advanced than us, then they would have mastered it and incorporated it into various parts of their life.

I hope they take the same approach in the MOS movie - it's certainly more believable and scientifically plausible to me than Clark having the cape and boots somehow tucked under his clothing without ever being noticed.

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Ugh, what horrible news to arrive to here at the Hype. I was really optimistic about Diggle's planned runs on Action Comics. I atleast hope they managed to finish one complete story arc under diggle rather than half with diggle half with daniel. I just have to look on the bright side, at least morrison's run is over. (sorry for those of you that are fans)

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I still don't get why Superman needs an armoured suit at all.

However, I do love how it materialises. It reeks of nano-tech, and it stands to reason that as humans are already on the fringes of developing nano-technology, and Kryptonians are meant to be significantly more advanced than us, then they would have mastered it and incorporated it into various parts of their life.
The biggest problem i have with this nano tech is that if it can materialize and shift continually than at no point will superman EVER show signs of battle. His suit will always look in mint condition instead of tattered and torn after a particularly rough fight.

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Ugh, what horrible news to arrive to here at the Hype. I was really optimistic about Diggle's planned runs on Action Comics. I atleast hope they managed to finish one complete story arc under diggle rather than half with diggle half with daniel. I just have to look on the bright side, at least morrison's run is over. (sorry for those of you that are fans)




The biggest problem i have with this nano tech is that if it can materialize and shift continually than at no point will superman EVER show signs of battle. His suit will always look in mint condition instead of tattered and torn after a particularly rough fight.
I enjoyed All Star Supes but now its too much with Morrison and Action Comics.

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Yeah, All-Star Superman was really good. However I was getting sick of him on Action. Maybe he will come back some day and I'll appreciate him then.

So bad Superman news left and right this week. Didn't realise that Tony Daniel will only do art for 3 issues. That sucks. I wonder who will continue after that. I hope it isn't Morales, I am really not a fan of his. I also came to realize last week that Rocafort's art is also coming to an end on Superman. That is really depressing. My only wish is that Brett Booth would take on a Superman Monthly, I am really liking him right now. It bums be out that he left Teen Titans. I was really digging that book. I might pick up Nightwing just to see his art.

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The biggest problem i have with this nano tech is that if it can materialize and shift continually than at no point will superman EVER show signs of battle. His suit will always look in mint condition instead of tattered and torn after a particularly rough fight.
That's assuming the suit is constantly 'online', for lack of a better word. It may be a fairly simplistic nano-tech where it simply forms the suit using a memory function, much like how Batman's cape in Nolan's film can retain a certain structure. Supe's suit could still show battle damage until he totally deactivates it and reactivates it.

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I still don't get why Superman needs an armoured suit at all.

However, I do love how it materialises. It reeks of nano-tech, and it stands to reason that as humans are already on the fringes of developing nano-technology, and Kryptonians are meant to be significantly more advanced than us, then they would have mastered it and incorporated it into various parts of their life.

I hope they take the same approach in the MOS movie - it's certainly more believable and scientifically plausible to me than Clark having the cape and boots somehow tucked under his clothing without ever being noticed.
Yeah, the main problem I have is that it's armor. There's always this ambiguity over whether Superman accomplished a feat with his own innate power or if the suit gave him a boost, and I hate that. He's not Iron Man.

But as far as the suit "morphing" on to him, that's no where near one of the most far fetched things I've seen in comics, not by a long shot.

Btw, if the sun was red during the battle against Superdoom and the others, how was Superman flying? I feel like I'm forgetting something. And if he had his powers back, why did he need his cape to protect him when Superdoom threw the helicopter at him, and why was lifting Superdoom into space treated like an impossible feat? He wasn't that big.

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Huh?
It's never been stated whether Superman's armor is just for protection (like super-kevlar or something) or if it's power armor like Iron Man's which actually gives the wearer super/enhanced strength.

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It's never been stated whether Superman's armor is just for protection (like super-kevlar or something) or if it's power armor like Iron Man's which actually gives the wearer super/enhanced strength.
They haven't addressed it because there's no reason to think that. He wears the armor because that's a garment as indestructible as he is and it has his symbol on it.

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