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Old 04-06-2013, 12:17 AM   #1
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Default Snipes is out of prison- Time to bring back Blade?

It's the perfect storm. Snipes has been released. Marvel have the rights to Blade back. Snipes probably has maybe a 5-10 year window left before he's physically too old to play Blade, which is good for another two solo movies at least (and maybe appearences in stuff like Avengers or Dr Strange).

Snipes as Blade is a proven commodity. He was supposed to have been difficult on Blade Trinity (maybe because Goyer tried to replace him with useless sidekicks in the form of Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel), and deliberately gave a listless performance to spite the production, but I reckon now that he' out, he'll want to have a good comeback and he'll play nice and give the best performance he possibly can. He could really enhance the Marvel movie universe, so I hope Fiege and his guys tap him up to do more Blade before it's too late.

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How would he enhance the MCU? Plus I doubt Marvel is going to bring him into their carefully crafted universe right after he gets out of jail. That just doesn't look good to the family target audience.

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How would he enhance the MCU? Plus I doubt Marvel is going to bring him into their carefully crafted universe right after he gets out of jail. That just doesn't look good to the family target audience.
Because he's a good actor, and the character is iconic and popular? It will enhance things, because they already know Blade works onscreen, as played by Snipes. Also, there has been a lack of minority/African-American heroes in the marvel film universe that can carry their own movie, and since Black Panther doesn't look like he'll be arriving anytime soon, Blade is probably the only other proven option (who knows if Luke Cage will work or not).

And give me a break. Robert Downey jr is a convicted felon, serial offender and long term drug addict whose crimes and transgressions are about a thousand times worse than Snipes not paying some of his taxes. Yet Downey jr is the flagship leader of Marvel's "family target audience" as Iron Man. Downey jr got given a chance by Marvel, after decades of criminal behavior. Snipes is an Angel by comparison.

Snipes has done his time and paid for his (minor) crime. As long as he delivers the goods onscreen, I doubt anyone will care.

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Because he's a good actor, and the character is iconic and popular? It will enhance things, because they already know Blade works onscreen, as played by Snipes. Also, there has been a lack of minority/African-American heroes in the marvel film universe that can carry their own movie, and since Black Panther doesn't look like he'll be arriving anytime soon, Blade is probably the only other proven option (who knows if Luke Cage will work or not).

And give me a break. Robert Downey jr is a convicted felon, serial offender and long term drug addict whose crimes and transgressions are about a thousand times worse than Snipes not paying some of his taxes. Yet Downey jr is the flagship leader of Marvel's "family target audience" as Iron Man. Downey jr got given a chance by Marvel, after decades of criminal behavior. Snipes is an Angel by comparison.

Snipes has done his time and paid for his (minor) crime. As long as he delivers the goods onscreen, I doubt anyone will care.
Okay I give you the bit about RDJ but, Blade still wouldn't enhance the MCU especially not with Snipes playing the character. First and foremost Blade and especially not Snipes' Blade is not a family oriented character. And Feige has said it many times the movies he's making right now are films he can go see with his kids. That's why he and Whedon didn't up the violence in Avengers like Nolan's Dark Knight series (he even made that reference). Blade wouldn't fit in the MCU as it is now. Now if they expand that into a MCU Knights type of thing than yes by all means bring him on but as of the MCU now no.

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Okay I give you the bit about RDJ but, Blade still wouldn't enhance the MCU especially not with Snipes playing the character. First and foremost Blade and especially not Snipes' Blade is not a family oriented character. And Feige has said it many times the movies he's making right now are films he can go see with his kids. That's why he and Whedon didn't up the violence in Avengers like Nolan's Dark Knight series (he even made that reference). Blade wouldn't fit in the MCU as it is now. Now if they expand that into a MCU Knights type of thing than yes by all means bring him on but as of the MCU now no.
Blade is a vampire hunter. While his films have tended towards being more "adult" in style and content, there's really little reason why he couldn't be toned down a bit to fit the current style of the Marvel universe.

Blade working for SHIELD, and teaming up with other heroes could create a scenrio that still is exciting and has lots of action/adventure, but fits with the current Marvel-verse. Less graphic violence and swearing, and Blade is just another cool action hero to play with.

Wolverine isn't a "family-oriented character" either, but if Marvel had the rights to him, you damn well know they'd find a way to make him work in their universe.

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Blade is a vampire hunter. While his films have tended towards being more "adult" in style and content, there's really little reason why he couldn't be toned down a bit to fit the current style of the Marvel universe.

Blade working for SHIELD, and teaming up with other heroes could create a scenrio that still is exciting and has lots of action/adventure, but fits with the current Marvel-verse. Less graphic violence and swearing, and Blade is just another cool action hero to play with.

Wolverine isn't a "family-oriented character" either, but if Marvel had the rights to him, you damn well know they'd find a way to make him work in their universe.
But you wanting Snipes to play Blade wouldn't work that way. People are accustomed to Snipes playing a bad-ass gritty Blade. If they were to cast him in the role and then tone him down completely, there goes the fanbase that was built before. No one likes to see a tried and true character tampered with. This has been proven many many times in other franchises.

People went with a toned down Wolverine (even though a lot of fans don't like this toned down version of him) because that's the first thing they were given. They weren't exposed to a hardcore no holds bar Wolverine in films so they took what was originally given to them.

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How would he enhance the MCU? Plus I doubt Marvel is going to bring him into their carefully crafted universe right after he gets out of jail. That just doesn't look good to the family target audience.
1. The first 2 Blade movies were awesome, better question would be how can the MCU enhance Blade?

2. **** the family audience demographic, all it gives is mediocre action comedies with no substance

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Old 04-06-2013, 12:51 AM   #8
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Yes! It needs to happen. I think it could be successful as well. Get rid of every side-kick and character in trinity and go with the older Blade vs the world and more bad ass than ever. Have the enemies more bad ass than ever. Have a good trailer and the fan base will be there

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Blade has jumped the Shark and Vampires are over exposed.

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I highly doubt that Marvel would bring back anyone from the original New Line Blade Trilogy or carry over any story details from it; they're more likely to start over from scratch with a reboot featuring an all-new storyline and all-new actors.

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I highly doubt that Marvel would bring back anyone from the original New Line Blade Trilogy or carry over any story details from it; they're more likely to start over from scratch with a reboot featuring an all-new storyline and all-new actors.
Didn't they try to do that with some Blade TV show nobody watched. Snipes defined the role. While he's still capable of playing it, I'm not sure anyone else will be accepted in the role. it'd be a big risk.

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I highly doubt that Marvel would bring back anyone from the original New Line Blade Trilogy or carry over any story details from it; they're more likely to start over from scratch with a reboot featuring an all-new storyline and all-new actors.
I'm not so sure. I think since Blade is a black character and so far Marvel hasn't been pushing solo projects with black leads or other non-white leads, they might go back to Snipes as Blade because that is a proven money maker. And there would be media attention and fan interest in seeing Snipes reprise the role. Bringing Snipes back is the safe route.

I've long said that Blade is bigger than Wesley, no matter how good Wesley was in the role and even how much he contributed to how viable Blade is as a character/franchise. In a way he helped make the character cool enough to survive without him playing him. I don't like the idea that a comic book role can only be played by one person. We've seen other definitive perhaps matched or bettered several times now. The same could happen with Blade.

As for the failures of Blade the Series, I don't think Kirk Jones is solely to blame. If anything I lay it at Goyer's feet. He's the guy that picked Jones over Michael Jai White (from what I've read), and he's the one centered the show around new characters, in a way continuing the demolition he started in Trinity. Despite it's faults, I do think Spike gave the show a raw deal. It wasn't a great show, but it didn't suck either. I wish it had at least been given another season to see if it could find and build an audience.

All that being said, I'm glad that Snipes is out and if he takes another stab at Blade, I will be watching. I wouldn't be mad if he got at least one more shot at it to make up for Trinity.

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^ The TV series was a direct continuation of the New Line Blade Trilogy, but with a different actor in the titular role.

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^And was a complete flop as I recall. Which is why it was quickly cancelled.

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^And was a complete flop as I recall. Which is why it was quickly cancelled.
Not in the slightest.
Blade: The Series (which featured Sticky Fingaz in the title role) was one of Spike's most-watched shows when it debuted in 2006. The only reason it was cancelled is because Spike was still a virgin cable station at the time, and the suits were afraid to gamble on a second season. In terms of popularity, it actually garnered more viewership than Arrow currently does for CW, and Arrow is, by all counts, a hit, with cult status in the making.

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^And was a complete flop as I recall. Which is why it was quickly cancelled.
Actually, it wasn't a flop. Spike TV cancelled it because they were still a fledgling network and the cost of the show was too much for them to handle at the time.

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^And was a complete flop as I recall. Which is why it was quickly cancelled.
from my understanding the budget was the issue.

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from my understanding the budget was the issue.
My understanding is, it wasn't the budget nor the ratings, it was the audience demographic. Blade was a hit, the biggest hit that channel had. . . but primarily with female viewers, who the channel had no idea what to do with.

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Not time to bring back blade, and if it was time it's certainly not for Wesley snipes to reprise the role. I won't deny he was an awesome blade but if and or when the daywalker returns we should have a new actor take the role.

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^^^ like others just stated trying to continue the New Line Cinema Blade in a toned down fashion didn't fly with people and I have nothing against the character or a movie being made, I just don't think it's the right time to reintroduce Blade and I don't think Marvel will continue on with the Wesley Snipes Blade
And for the record @semper Goyer and New Line Cinema changed the character of Blade completely from his comic book counterpart. They changed his origins, powers, weaknesses, and personality. So if Marvel did reintroduce Blade there's a good chance they will go with the original comic book version to distinguish itself from the New Line Cinema version.

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^^^ like others just stated trying to continue the New Line Cinema Blade in a toned down fashion didn't fly with people and I have nothing against the character or a movie being made, I just don't think it's the right time to reintroduce Blade and I don't think Marvel will continue on with the Wesley Snipes Blade
And for the record @semper Goyer and New Line Cinema changed the character of Blade completely from his comic book counterpart. They changed his origins, powers, weaknesses, and personality. So if Marvel did reintroduce Blade there's a good chance they will go with the original comic book version to distinguish itself from the New Line Cinema version.

Actually Snipes changed Blade character the most. That bad ass you saw on screen revamped was mostly due to Snipes. He does not get enough credit because people simply don't like him

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Actually Snipes changed Blade character the most. That bad ass you saw on screen revamped was mostly due to Snipes. He does not get enough credit because people simply don't like him
My opinion is pretty much similar to yours. I've said numerous times Snipes doesn't get enough credit for the success of Blade even though he contributed a lot to the movies with giving him the Bladeness, designing the weapons and bringing in his team developing great fight scenes. Goyer always seems to get the praises but it was him and New Line that wanted to go that direction for Trinity. Movie didnít do as good as the previous movies so they try to blame Snipes for the downfall of the movie.

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My opinion is pretty much similar to yours. I've said numerous times Snipes doesn't get enough credit for the success of Blade even though he contributed a lot to the movies with giving him the Bladeness, designing the weapons and bringing in his team developing great fight scenes. Goyer always seems to get the praises but it was him and New Line that wanted to go that direction for Trinity. Movie didnít do as good as the previous movies so they try to blame Snipes for the downfall of the movie.
Well I highly doubt Snipes had much to do in changing the defining features of the character I.e. origins, personality, powers, and weaknesses. That was all writing. I'm not denying Snipes brought the flare to the character like how RDJ does with Tony Stark. But what I'm saying is the New Line Cinema version of the character is vastly different than the Marvel comic book version and if Marvel is going to bring him into.their MCU they're more than likely going to go with their original version and not someone else's

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Well I highly doubt Snipes had much to do in changing the defining features of the character I.e. origins, personality, powers, and weaknesses. That was all writing. I'm not denying Snipes brought the flare to the character like how RDJ does with Tony Stark. But what I'm saying is the New Line Cinema version of the character is vastly different than the Marvel comic book version and if Marvel is going to bring him into.their MCU they're more than likely going to go with their original version and not someone else's


If you watch Blade II the scene where Whistler killed all them baby Reapers in those test tubes. On the script Blade was supposed to do that, but Wesley felt that something Blade wouldn't do. Throughout the film series there were plenty of instances that Snipes made changes to the character. Since he felt what was written on script was something the Blade character wouldn't do.

If you watch the original first two films with the commentary with Goyer/Snipes/Frankfurt/Del Toro they are very informative. They even mentioned that Snipes said there wasn't enough action in the beginning of Blade II so Snipes wanted to add more action that wasn't even the script.

I also noticed on the new Blu-ray version of Blade II is that they didn't really mention Snipes at all or edit parts that were in the original DVD version. I guess Goyer/ New Line/Warner's still mad at him for trying to sue over Blade Trinity.


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Well I highly doubt Snipes had much to do in changing the defining features of the character I.e. origins, personality, powers, and weaknesses. That was all writing. I'm not denying Snipes brought the flare to the character like how RDJ does with Tony Stark. But what I'm saying is the New Line Cinema version of the character is vastly different than the Marvel comic book version and if Marvel is going to bring him into.their MCU they're more than likely going to go with their original version and not someone else's
But since Snipes' Blade became so popular, Marvel updated the comic version. So the two are not all that different.

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