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I have a question, if someone can answer it that would be great
If both studios Marvel and Fox have the rights to Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch because they have both been in the Avengers and in the X-Men, then what is stopping Marvel from using other characters that have been part of the Avengers like Spidey, Wolverine, Beast, Namor, the FF, Sandman, and Storm They have all been in the Avengers' roster. Also could Fox use Ms. Marvel? |
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So far, Wanda and Pietro are the only ones we know who exist in a legal limbo, that likely only came about when Fox/Singer wasn't sure he wanted to introduce them into the X-Men movies way back when. There's still a possibility that there might be some other "floaters" out there that can legally dual-exist in separate movie universes, but we haven't heard of them yet.
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Also, gotta keep in mind that these legal rights were signed way back in the 90s and Ms Marvel wasn't even involved with the Fantastic Four back then.
I'm sure Fox and Sony each have a long list of characters they can use. And Marvel has a very short list of characters they can share.
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Thanks, much appreciated.
One more question though, Where would the new mutants appearing now in the comics fall? I mean they are characters that were not created back when the rights were signed off to Fox. Would there be an assumption that future characters associated with the X-Men belong to Fox for their big screen appearances or could Marvel include them in a wider MU movie. Other kinda big characters that were not created until after the rights deal are X-23 for example was not created until 2003 I think Dust in 2002 Pixie and Surge 2004 Rockslide 2003 Even the Stepford Cuckoos only appeared for the first time in the early 2000's Would marvel be able to use them? |
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It was sort of the same idea as G.I.Joe, Thundercats, Rom and Micronauts but instead of toys aimed at boys, it was a female disco star for the girls. There's more to Dazzler than just being a mutant |
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I think they made a specific exemption for scarlet witch and quicksilver because they have been such prominent avengers. The other xmen who happen to have been avengers don't get the same rights
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Beast has a big enough presence in the classic Avengers to have a case for crossovers; but I doubt either Marvel Studios or Fox are interested in pursuing that avenue.
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Well Dazzler was originally created just as a property to sell music like the cartoon Jem, but disco died and so did the idea.
I still think Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are more Avengers than Xmen and FOX/Singer over stepped by assuming they could use the characters just because they're mutants. I can see Hellcat/Tigera, Spider-Woman (Jessica), She-Hulk, Clea in Avengers as well |
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Fox can use them because they're mutants, not necessarily because they've been in X-Men comics (which they haven't a whole lot). Marvel can use them because they're full out Avengers characters. Other characters like Beat and Wolverine don't count because they clearly fall into line with X-Men comics, while Pietro and Wanda don't. It's that simple.
Any and all mutants go to Fox. |
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