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Old 08-13-2013, 06:53 PM   #1
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So Hawkeye isn't going to be in any of the Phase 2's? I haven't heard anything about him in Thor so he's just missing until Avengers 2?

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So Hawkeye isn't going to be in any of the Phase 2's? I haven't heard anything about him in Thor so he's just missing until Avengers 2?
That seems to be the case. I mean they could always sneak him in for a Post Credit scene like how they did with Banner, who's the other Avenger that doesn't have a major role in any phase 2 film until the big team up one.

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That seems to be the case. I mean they could always sneak him in for a Post Credit scene like how they did with Banner, who's the other Avenger that doesn't have a major role in any phase 2 film until the big team up one.
I liked the Banner cameo. I guess I could see him doing a little stop by in Cap's after credit's scene.

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I don't know about BW and Cap but I guess I'll just have to wait and see how it turns out.

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Also, the reason why I’d prefer to Thor to remain on Earth at the end of the film is because I want to see Thor established as a hero of Earth as well and not just be an Asgardian warrior prince who only comes to Earth whenever a Universal Threat looms around the corner.

Based on what we know so far, Iron Man is on sabbatical, Hulk is always in recluse, and Captain America may be breaking away from SHIELD by the time Thor arrives (due to how it’s been said that Steve will end up having issues with how SHIELD operates), so that really only leaves Thor as being the only active hero with super powers.

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Also, the reason why I’d prefer to Thor to remain on Earth at the end of the film is because I want to see Thor established as a hero of Earth as well and not just be an Asgardian warrior prince who only comes to Earth whenever a Universal Threat looms around the corner.

Based on what we know so far, Iron Man is on sabbatical, Hulk is always in recluse, and Captain America may be breaking away from SHIELD by the time Thor arrives (due to how it’s been said that Steve will end up having issues with how SHIELD operates), so that really only leaves Thor as being the only active hero with super powers.
I think that's a great start to Avengers 2. Iron Man finding a problem in whatever awesome way the Great Whedon dictates and he calls in the others and they have to work around Shield with Fury being a gray area good guy.

Damn! Stop making me excited about a movie that's not coming out for another 2 years!

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If Thor stays on Earth for the remainder of Phase 2, then he could decide to only go back to Asgard in “Thor 3”, where he must take the duty of being King after Odin dies, presumably from fighting Surtur (assuming if Surtur is used in that film), thus by the time that it takes for Thor to go back to Asgard, he would have had more than enough time being established on Earth as a resident hero.

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If Thor stays on Earth for the remainder of Phase 2, then he could decide to only go back to Asgard in “Thor 3”, where he must take the duty of being King after Odin dies, presumably from fighting Surtur (assuming if Surtur is used in that film), thus by the time that it takes for Thor to go back to Asgard, he would have had more than enough time being established on Earth as a resident hero.
I could see that happening. That sounds like it would be awesome. Is it bad of me to want the other Asgardians to get more comfortable with Earth in general? Like stop thinking they're all superior (even though they are) and like us and respect us.

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Once again, clearly you've never read any Thor comics. Yes Sif is from the mythology, and in the comics Thor is betrothed to Sif, but Jane and Thor have been "soul mates". But if it makes you feel better, it seems they are going to hint at some of the love triangle stuff in this film.
Is there a reason you always need to insult me? I most definitely do the Thor comic thing. Thor and Cap are the two I have read consistently from Marvel, even when they aren't great. Though Hawkeye right now is my favorite book (How I love you Kate). Jane as Thor's "soul mate" hasn't been a thing for decades. Heck, even JMS, the best Thor scribe outside of Simonson imo, positioned her has simply Blake's ex. Not Thor's, Blake's.

But the movies will do what they do. I will enjoy it all as long as it is written and acted well. I'll just enjoy it a little more if the right couple is eventually there.

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Also, the reason why I’d prefer to Thor to remain on Earth at the end of the film is because I want to see Thor established as a hero of Earth as well and not just be an Asgardian warrior prince who only comes to Earth whenever a Universal Threat looms around the corner.

Based on what we know so far, Iron Man is on sabbatical, Hulk is always in recluse, and Captain America may be breaking away from SHIELD by the time Thor arrives (due to how it’s been said that Steve will end up having issues with how SHIELD operates), so that really only leaves Thor as being the only active hero with super powers.
Earth cop Thor is fun, but Thor is a comsic hero. I have always preferred Thor as a universal champion. I like that he travels to Earth, even has a home there, but considering who he is and what he does, I would hope that he handles problems across all 9 realms and beyond.

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I do hope the movie shows that Thor has become a famous superhero after The Avengers. There's something wonderfully weird about a god becoming a celebrity.

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I do hope the movie shows that Thor has become a famous superhero after The Avengers. There's something wonderfully weird about a god becoming a celebrity.
I kind of want him to remain unkown. Tony is the famous Avenger, he's got that covered. Cap is pretty known too from what I remember of those news reels at the end of Avengers, Thor seemed to be the only one not mentioned at all now that I think on it...

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I kind of want him to remain unkown. Tony is the famous Avenger, he's got that covered. Cap is pretty known too from what I remember of those news reels at the end of Avengers, Thor seemed to be the only one not mentioned at all now that I think on it...
Thor was in the montage at the end of Avengers. He was also, iirc, the only Avenger to be mentioned in IM3 (not counting Tony of course), pointing to the fact that it's a very big deal that he came to Earth and showed that we aren't alone.


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Thor was in the montage at the end of Avengers and he was also, iirc, the only Avenger to be mentioned in IM3 (not counting Tony of course).
I don't remember him in that montage? Which one was he mentioned in?

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I don't remember him in that montage? Which one was he mentioned in?
One woman interrupts an interview by shouting "I love you Thor", there's a huge gathering of people at some square and the signs put up are for Iron Man, Cap and Thor (a lightning bolt), Thor is drawn on the street artist's paintings (both alone and with the Avengers), and little girl has created her own Mjolnir.

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I don't like the whole celebrity thing. It takes away from the godly aura.

I don't want the public (in the MCU) to view Thor as "Thor the super hero", I want him to be viewed as "Thor"

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I don't like the whole celebrity thing. It takes away from the godly aura.

I don't want the public (in the MCU) to view Thor as "Thor the super hero", I want him to be viewed as "Thor"
I agree with this mostly. Which is why I don't want him based on Earth stopping bank robberies.

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I agree with this mostly. Which is why I don't want him based on Earth stopping bank robberies.
Thor is a little too high on the crime fighting totem pole to be stopping bank robberies unless he's like right there anyway. You don't send SWAT to noise complaints you don't send Thor to domestic violence disputes.

Besides, he's already famous on Asgard, he's royalty he can't be more famous until he becomes king and even then it's not like no one's ever heard of him. He can be a little more...crap I can't think of the word but you know what I'm trying to say. A little more not famous, more blended in, as much as Hunky McHot stuff can blend in. There's a word for that and I know it but I can't think of it and it's driving me insane.

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I agree with this mostly. Which is why I don't want him based on Earth stopping bank robberies.
You know, I just realized that there really isn’t a known hero within the MCU that actually takes care of that type of situations. Captain America, Iron Man, and any agent of SHIELD primarily deal with international terrorists or power hungry people bent on world domination, and the Hulk doesn’t get involved unless he needs to, whereas Thor works on dealing with cosmic entities.

I wonder if we’ll ever get a hero that isn’t too busy to deal with the everyday crimes and horrors.

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I don't like the whole celebrity thing. It takes away from the godly aura.

I don't want the public (in the MCU) to view Thor as "Thor the super hero", I want him to be viewed as "Thor"
I think you're interpreting me too much in the line of that Thor would be like Tony Stark, which is not the only way someone can be famous in (in a positive manner). As my location shows I'm not a native English speaker so perhaps the word celebrity is wrong (or people just associate things with the word that isn't the definition, I don't know) but I meant that he would be known throughout the world. I don't think there's any chance of him actually being treated like a god (although I'd find it funny if people started worshiping him) and him being a part of a superhero group will inevitably make people see him as a superhero in addition to the rest that he is.

As I've shown there's no chance of him being unknown without them just doing a retcon on the last two MCU movies.

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Thor is to hunky to go unknown.

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She's got a point. Of the Big 4, Thor seems the least well-known in the MCU media. Cap is a legend, Tony is a camera whore, and Hulk is always newsworthy. Thor spends all of his time on another world. Think about it. He's been on Earth for a total of about a week, and only a couple of days of that was spent doing anything that might get caught on film. He's probably more of an urban legend at this point.

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You had a couple of kids dressed in Thor costumes during the montage at the end of the Avengers. Some more kids mentioned how Thor was "their favorite."

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