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Old 08-28-2013, 01:23 PM   #1
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Default Marvels biggest slap in the face!!!

With Marvel fans spanning the globe as well as decades I would like to know what they feel was the biggest slap in the face of their favorite characters brought to the screen on behalf of Movie Moguls.

For example:

Galalctus being a puff of smoke.

Dead Pool catastrophy

Electra"Nuff said"

Punisher "Nuff said"

Wolverine being 6'3

Venom Disaster

Ghost Rider"Nuff said"

Ghost Rider 2 "Nuff said"

Hulk 1

Hulk 2

Manderine disrespect from Iron man 3

Abomination Rendition from Hulk 2

Aborbing man Zax(Bruce banner's dad)from Hulk 1

Whiplash fiasco from Iron man 2

Etc.Etc.

Please give us your thought on the biggest slap and tell us why?

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Old 08-28-2013, 01:37 PM   #2
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The Mandarin. Easily.

Not because I love the character or whatever, no, I hate what they did because basically all of Iron Man 3's excellent trailers, posters and tv spots sold us a completely different movie from the one we ended up getting.
About a whole year's worth of spin sold this movie as an epic battle between Hero and Nemesis in which Stark finally suffers defeat and had to fight his way back from destruction. Kingsley's Mandarin looked and sounded friggin' ferocious too... THIS was gonna be good!
...yeeeeeaaah.

Now, studios overhype their films all the time. No surprise there. But what Marvel did went way beyond that... they outright lied about what the film was.

And even then -even then!- I could have forgiven that, all of it... if what the film was actually about wasn't so friggin' boring...

Eh, rant over.

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Old 08-29-2013, 02:36 AM   #3
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The Mandarin. Easily.

Not because I love the character or whatever, no, I hate what they did because basically all of Iron Man 3's excellent trailers, posters and tv spots sold us a completely different movie from the one we ended up getting.
About a whole year's worth of spin sold this movie as an epic battle between Hero and Nemesis in which Stark finally suffers defeat and had to fight his way back from destruction. Kingsley's Mandarin looked and sounded friggin' ferocious too... THIS was gonna be good!
...yeeeeeaaah.

Now, studios overhype their films all the time. No surprise there. But what Marvel did went way beyond that... they outright lied about what the film was.

And even then -even then!- I could have forgiven that, all of it... if what the film was actually about wasn't so friggin' boring...

Eh, rant over.
Easily this.

Most of this thread seems to be people complaining that characters were changed from the comic books.
Big whoop, the movies are different, deal with it.

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Old 01-20-2014, 07:39 PM   #4
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Easily this.

Most of this thread seems to be people complaining that characters were changed from the comic books.
Big whoop, the movies are different, deal with it.
Isn't writing about it considered therapy?

Juggernaut stands out for me. They took a Hulk class threat and demoted him into a genetic mutant henchmen with no ties to Xavier. Yet Mystique is shoehorned in as his sister? Really.?

Blackheart- Here's the thing. I don't even know much about this character in the comics I just know I loved playing as him in that Marvel fighting game. What I do know is that what was displayed in that Ghost Rider film ranked below an average Smallville villian. It was basically Blackheart by name only which is a shame because I'm sure a half decent BH could've made this film somewhat bearable.

Mandarin was a big disappointing as well as Silver Samurai. Despite all the reports of Fox doing a better job after Rothman left Silver Samurai and Viper prove more of the same.

The trend here is that Marvel can't seem to get their villians right no matter what Studio is behind it.


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Old 12-15-2013, 07:54 PM   #5
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The Mandarin. Easily.

Not because I love the character or whatever, no, I hate what they did because basically all of Iron Man 3's excellent trailers, posters and tv spots sold us a completely different movie from the one we ended up getting.
About a whole year's worth of spin sold this movie as an epic battle between Hero and Nemesis in which Stark finally suffers defeat and had to fight his way back from destruction. Kingsley's Mandarin looked and sounded friggin' ferocious too... THIS was gonna be good!
...yeeeeeaaah.

Now, studios overhype their films all the time. No surprise there. But what Marvel did went way beyond that... they outright lied about what the film was.

And even then -even then!- I could have forgiven that, all of it... if what the film was actually about wasn't so friggin' boring...

Eh, rant over.
I could have written this post. Took the words right out of my mouth. Well done, sir. *tips hat*

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Old 08-28-2013, 01:40 PM   #6
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What happened to Cyclops in X-Men: The Last Stand. Some of those other things may be stupid, but someone somewhere involved in making the films thought that it was the proper approach and the best thing for the story and to show those characters in a live action medium. Even if they were wrong, the intentions were good. Cyclops was not like that. It wasn't done for story reasons at all. It was an executive mandate to ruin the character because Tom Rothman was pissed off that James Marsden went with Bryan Singer to star in Superman Returns. That's what made it worse. Fox knew it wasn't the best thing to do for the film and they did it anyways because of a personal vendetta.

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Old 08-28-2013, 01:44 PM   #7
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The Mandarin. I felt that Sandman and Venom were bad on Spidey 3. There are more but those are the disappointments that come into my mind immideatly.

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Whatever they f***ing did to Doom.

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Whatever they f***ing did to Doom.
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:54 PM   #10
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Deadpool, Dr. Doom, Venom, Juggernaut & Mandarin were all horrible; Deadpool being the worst since he's my favorite character out of anything. It still blows my mind how they could get a character so wrong, especially when said character should be pretty easy to adapt & have a mainstream audience love.

BTW, I don't think anyone cares about how Whiplash was handled in Iron Man 2. Whiplash is a D-list villain that few knew about before the movie, I think people were mad that he got in over a real villain & didn't do s***.

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Daredevil, Elektra, Ghostrider 2, FF2, Spidey 3.

These movies were epic slaps to my face imo. I don't mind alterations to characters as long as they fit into the story the movie is trying to tell, and the story works and makes sense. So stuff like Mandarin, changes to Abomination etc don't bother me.

What bothers me is when the entire movie if just f**king terrible, with a bad plot, no great performances and just no passion behind it. Thats what i can't stand.

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Wolverine being 6'3 totally ruined the entire X-Men franchise. What a slap.

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Wolverine being 6'3 totally ruined the entire X-Men franchise. What a slap.
Okay, I hate to necro and old thread, but this is a bad thing because?

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This thread is going to be fun to read.

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This thread is going to be fun to read.
I get a feeling that every villain will be mentioned here bar LOKI!

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Old 08-28-2013, 03:09 PM   #16
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:31 PM   #17
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Can we blame them for movies that technically they didn't make?

The Mandarin was the biggest slap to the face Marvel themselves have done. Probably the biggest slap to the face by any CBM since Green Lantern.

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It's hard to mention only one because there have certainly been some ****ed ups. But Dr. Doom is definitely one of the worst, so is Deadpool.

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The first Hulk movie.They pretty much soured the public on a character that should be (or at least WAS for a time) the most popular outside of Spider-Man.Even after a significantly better 2nd attempt,he's the only character not to get a sequel and is relegated to Avengers roster status.

I never had much problems with the FF films to be honest.The cast was pretty solid.(Even Alba was alright) But they really could've been epic with a stronger Doom/non cloud Galactus.I wish they at least got a 3rd before rebooting.

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The first Hulk movie.They pretty much soured the public on a character that should be (or at least WAS for a time) the most popular outside of Spider-Man.Even after a significantly better 2nd attempt,he's the only character not to get a sequel and is relegated to Avengers roster status.
Agreed 100%. It's pretty hard to carry a film when you're not allowed to be an actual character.

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I find the claims of 'face-slapping' to be arbitrary, as each of the storylines and characters in questions exist in multiple iterations across the texts (comics.)

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I take no issue with a lot of the things mentioned. I don't consider a bad movie (Ghost Rider) to be a slap in the face. I feel like they just tried and failed. I do consider the general treatment of Cyclops in X-Men: The Last Stand to be extremely disrespectful to both fans and source material, though.

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What 'ruined' comic book movies for me was when Wolverine became the center and virtual leader of the X-Men at the expense of the other X-Men, especially my fave Cyclops. That, more than anything, was in those early days and as the franchise continued to marginalize the non-Wolverine X-Men, and how easily justified removing the team/diversity/unity/non-wolverine aspect was... I realized that comic book movies were never going to be what I was looking for, not really. That, at any moment, they could simply refuse to give me the things I loved about the comics, even if those things were central to the entire franchise, they could just say 'hawt Wolverine sells better.' And that would be it, forever.

I haven't been slapped in the face since. Disappointed, embarassed, sometimes sorely so, but never did it sting like that again.

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What 'ruined' comic book movies for me was when Wolverine became the center and virtual leader of the X-Men at the expense of the other X-Men, especially my fave Cyclops. That, more than anything, was in those early days and as the franchise continued to marginalize the non-Wolverine X-Men, and how easily justified removing the team/diversity/unity/non-wolverine aspect was... I realized that comic book movies were never going to be what I was looking for, not really. That, at any moment, they could simply refuse to give me the things I loved about the comics, even if those things were central to the entire franchise, they could just say 'hawt Wolverine sells better.' And that would be it, forever.

I haven't been slapped in the face since. Disappointed, embarassed, sometimes sorely so, but never did it sting like that again.
I felt that was a big reason why I liked First Class so much.

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Galalctus being a puff of smoke.
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Marvel, stop slapping us! We're fans of these characters whose names we can't spell!!!!

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