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Thor hammers Supes into oblivion 6 17.14%
Thor wins, but barely 5 14.29%
It's a draw, they fight to a standstill 2 5.71%
Superman wins, but barely 8 22.86%
Superman demolishes Thor easily 11 31.43%
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Old 11-02-2013, 07:17 AM   #1
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Default Thor (from TDW) vs Superman (from MOS) who wins in a fight, and why ?

This year
We've seen what Thor can do in TDW,
We've seen what Superman can do in MOS

Now, if Disney and WBros ever put their differences aside....
maybe these two characters will meet, and given their
personalities...FIGHT !

So who would win, based on the current movie depictions
of the characters (NOT the comic book versions) and why ?

Let the battle begin.


(BTW I'm also posting this thread in a Superman section so we get as many responses as possible).

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Allow me to start the Hammer twirling !

Superman is obviously much stronger and has a much greater degree of
invulnerability.

Thor possesses a magic weapon, to which Superman is probably
vulnerable. Although having said that Shazam's magic lightning has
hurt him, but not killed him..

Thor is a skilled warrior with superior fighting skills, and a never-say-die
attitude.

Here's how I see it playing out. After a short exchange of words,
Thor strikes first, as he'd be first to get the tactical advantage.

Supes is surprised by how much that little Hammer and its lightning
blasts hurt him. He gets smacked around by Thor quite a bit, probably
tries to fly and gets blown around by hurricane force winds etc.

Anyway, eventually one of two things happens.

1) Supes realises that as fast as Thor's hammer is, he's a lot faster, and dodges Mjolnir, and punches Thor about as hard as he hit Zod, which should knock out the Thunder God (given what Kurse was able to do to him).

2) Supes, being a selfless and highly worthy individual, catches Mjolnir, in mid-flight, and surprise, surprise, he can lift it - possessing both the physical strength and strength of character. After sending a completely shocked Thor sprawling with a backhand, the Thunder God, after waking up a few moments later, is shocked a second time when Superman hands him back his hammer. Thor acknowledges Supes' greatness, and departs in defeat......

either way, Superman wins.


Now I know you Thor-maniacs out there are probably lining up to refute my little scenarios, but that's what forums like this are for.


BTW I loved Thor TDW, thought it was to Thor, what Dark Knight, was to Batman Begins. That's saying a lot, as you can probably tell, I'm more of a Super-fan, and have never really liked Thor that much - but I liked where this movie took him (and Hiddleston was amazing as Loki, best super-villain since McKellen's Magneto).

Okay, time for you to drop the hammer and respond !

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I like threads like this. Its good fun, until the trolls show up.

Well, I say Superman destroys Thor. Powerlevel wise, its kinda unfair. Look at Thors big fight against Malekeith (I dunno if thats right), or at the impact Thors punches have, even with Mjolnir. He can punch a car a like 20 meters away. Clark is muuuuuuuuch stronger than anything Thor can do in the movies, if we talk about feats. Sure, Thor has Mjolnir, but Clark has the power to cut a skscraper in half with his heat vision.
Clark is also much faster, while Thor has better fighting skills.

So, yeah. Kal takes this.
I love Thor, though! Not as much as Supes, but he is my favorite Marvel character. Dark World was a great movie, even Marvels best for me so far, even if it was a bit too jokey and silly at times (a problem I have with almost all Marvel movies).

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Ooooh for a guarantee of this one thing needs to be added in the mix, green thing- Hulk.

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Depends on what universe they're fighting in. Superman in the Marvel Universe would lose significant advantages. In the DC universe, complete invulnerability is possible. Not so the Marvel Universe. Even major heavyweights like Thor and Hulk can bleed under the right circumstances. Supes would likewise if they fought in the MarvelU. Also, in the MarvelU, Superman couldn't fly. You need some legit reason to be able to do that there. In DC you can do whatever you like.

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Obviously you can script a way to make it a fun, fair fight.

In reality, if we're taking their powers at face value Superman beats pretty much everybody.

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Obviously you can script a way to make it a fun, fair fight.

In reality, if we're taking their powers at face value Superman beats pretty much everybody.

If it takes place in the DC universe then yeah. If in the MarvelU then both Thor and Hulk easily match Supes plus they're much more vicious and experienced fightes so they'd likely kick his butt all over the place.

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If it takes place in the DC universe then yeah.
No, if it takes place in the fake, imaginary universe where characters from a Warner Bros. film are battling characters from a Disney film.

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Come on Thor fans, you can do better than this. I haven't heard anything
yet that makes me go, "Oh, yeah, I can see that, maybe Thor would win."

Dudes, as far as made up universes go....well we are all on a forum
called Superhero hype, so you just have to suspend disbelief.

I do like the point that perhaps the two comic book universes do
seem to have particular unwritten rules - not so sure if I agree with the flying one, there are plenty of Marvel characters who can fly...because they can fly, but the invulnerability thing I can sort of see.

Once upon a time death was much more permanent in the DC universe ( I'm thinking of the Flash, who died in 1985, and took 23 years to be resurrected, Superman doesn't count, because the moment he died, we all knew he was coming back), personally, I think they should have
let Barry stay dead, but used the loophole to allow him to make periodic appearances (you know, that as he ran around the Anti-monitor's universe destroyer, to keep the antimatter inside, he travelled in and out of time).

I think Marvel broke the death barrier first when they resurrected Jean Gray. The dark phoenix saga was such a classic Xmen tale, and they undid it all by bringing Jean back - sure there was a somewhat plausible explanation, but her death was so significant (and well written) and it had lasting effects on all the X-characters, particularly Cyclops and Wolverine.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Raise your game Thor fans, assume that Supes and Thor slug it out, with their powers exactly as depicted in their films. Who wins. I know that on the face of it, or prima facie -to be fancy - the Thor fans have a tougher job, because Superman is more physically powerful and faster, but get creative.

I'm a Super-fan, but I'm happy to admit that it's possible Thor could defeat Superman, depending on the circumstances.

Go for it ! Time to Drop the Hammer !

(I hope that means the same thing in the rest of the world as it does down here in NZ, where it pretty much means to give it all you've got).

BTW, again Thor TDW was awesome. Cheers.

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Depends on what universe they're fighting in. Superman in the Marvel Universe would lose significant advantages. In the DC universe, complete invulnerability is possible. Not so the Marvel Universe. Even major heavyweights like Thor and Hulk can bleed under the right circumstances. Supes would likewise if they fought in the MarvelU. Also, in the MarvelU, Superman couldn't fly. You need some legit reason to be able to do that there. In DC you can do whatever you like.
This isn't about universes, this is about them exactly as they are depicted in their respective movies...fighting each other

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Thread like this are fun but they never end well. The Hulk vs. Thor Avengers thread was awesome until it devolved into personal attacks. I just hope things don't get all tribal.

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1. Thor has NEVER been knocked out in the MCU (not counting mortal Thor), not even when facing Kurse or Hulk so let's not say Supes can do the same.

2. The didn't bleed until The Avengers, so just like Supes he was didn't shed a drop of blows in his origin film (while powered of course).

3. Supes was physically the strongest being in MOS, well see what happens when he comes across guys stronger than him like Thor did in TA and T:TDW.

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1. Thor has NEVER been knocked out in the MCU (not counting mortal Thor), not even when facing Kurse or Hulk so let's not say Supes can do the same.

2. The didn't bleed until The Avengers, so just like Supes he was didn't shed a drop of blows in his origin film (while powered of course).

3. Supes was physically the strongest being in MOS, well see what happens when he comes across guys stronger than him like Thor did in TA and T:TDW.

That's more like it. Thanks for putting up some arguments !

1. Not so sure about Thor not being KO'ed. I think Kurse
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. Although you are correct, Supes did get knocked down, and possibly knocked out for a few seconds by the giant Kryptonian.

2. Of course Mortal Thor doesn't count, we're only interested in god-like Thor. Kurse certainly did make him bleed, but you're right, not in his origin film (in his god-mode anyway).

3. Tricky to say who's stronger. Thor, I'm not so sure, as what's the heaviest object we've seen him lift......not sure. Remember how casually Zod kicks that Tanker truck across the road, would Thor have that kind of power ?
The Hulk, probably a much more reasonable comparison, as he stops that giant alien ship/flying fish thing, all by himself.

BTW I give a significant edge in fighting skills and strategy to Thor, as he's a lot older than Supes and has had plenty of warrior training.


If you're interested, what do you think about this....

4. speed. Thor's reasonably quick, for a big guy, but nothing like Supes.
On that note, can Thor fly and throw Mjolnir at the same time....maybe not, so mobility advantage Supes.


5. Do you think Supes could lift mjolnir ? Obviously he could physically lift it, but being such a selfless guy, who's always good to his mum, he might also be worthy enough to hold it. I doubt he could command it's magical powers, but Thor might chuck it at Supes, who might catch it and chuck it back.

6. Heat vision. probably not a game changer, but possibly a match for Thor's lightning.

7. Thor doesn't usually fight alone. Even against Malekith, he had backup in the form of Jane, Selvig and the others. Supes is quite often a solo act. Maybe that would tip the balance in Thor's favour.

8. Where the fight takes place (as in which realm) would make a difference. Thor's power goes wherever he does. While Supes probably has a big edge in raw power on Earth, (and I think also in Asgard, as it's a really sunny place in the movies) if the fight happened in Jotunheim or Svartalfheim, Supes would probably be much less powerful.

Thanks again for the post, you're doing Thor fans proud.

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1. MCU Thor may not have outrageous strength feats like Hulk or MOS Sues, but he did block and push up against a punch from an enraged Hulk in TA. Now this is what that basically entails, Hulk stopped that giant leviathan with his right arm which is the SAME arm Thor blocked and overpowered (using two hands).

So in my mind this means that Thor is strong enough to stop one of those deviations as well except he'd have to use both arms and he'd struggle considerably more. So basically Thor is about 70% as strong as Hulk, which would mean he's not as unmatched in the strength department as some might think against MOS Supes. I didn't see MOS Supes lift a single thing that Avengers Hulk couldn't easily lift, which basically means I think MC Thor could lift most of what MOS Supes lifted in the film. The only thing I'm not sure of him being able to do is go against that "gravity machine".

2. I do give MOS Supes the advantage in speed, but he didbn't utilize his speed that often in combat, hardly ever actually. Even Zod didn't really use much super speed in combat, that was mostly Faora.

3. I think Thor's lightning is more powerful than Supes heat vision, yeah Zod brought down a building but buildings aren't solid structures. Thor's lightning on the other hand destroyed 3 space whales when they were coming through that portal. It's also powerful enough to rip through concrete as seen in T:TDW's tv spots not too mention what it did to Jotunheim which wasn't very stable either but it is still a planet abduction should be much more stable that a building.

4. Supes definitely has the mobility advantage as well.

5. Thor can create tornadoes just by thinking it, as seen in Thor when he got his hammer back and that tornado started to form before he flew into the air during his fight with The Destroyer. Go watch that scene, Thor didn't do a single gesture to summon that tornado he not a spin of the hammer or anything, although he did spin it to make the winds stronger.

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1. MCU Thor may not have outrageous strength feats like Hulk or MOS Sues, but he did block and push up against a punch from an enraged Hulk in TA. Now this is what that basically entails, Hulk stopped that giant leviathan with his right arm which is the SAME arm Thor blocked and overpowered (using two hands).

So in my mind this means that Thor is strong enough to stop one of those deviations as well except he'd have to use both arms and he'd struggle considerably more. So basically Thor is about 70% as strong as Hulk, which would mean he's not as unmatched in the strength department as some might think against MOS Supes. I didn't see MOS Supes lift a single thing that Avengers Hulk couldn't easily lift, which basically means I think MC Thor could lift most of what MOS Supes lifted in the film. The only thing I'm not sure of him being able to do is go against that "gravity machine".

2. I do give MOS Supes the advantage in speed, but he didbn't utilize his speed that often in combat, hardly ever actually. Even Zod didn't really use much super speed in combat, that was mostly Faora.

3. I think Thor's lightning is more powerful than Supes heat vision, yeah Zod brought down a building but buildings aren't solid structures. Thor's lightning on the other hand destroyed 3 space whales when they were coming through that portal. It's also powerful enough to rip through concrete as seen in T:TDW's tv spots not too mention what it did to Jotunheim which wasn't very stable either but it is still a planet abduction should be much more stable that a building.


4. Supes definitely has the mobility advantage as well.

5. Thor can create tornadoes just by thinking it, as seen in Thor when he got his hammer back and that tornado started to form before he flew into the air during his fight with The Destroyer. Go watch that scene, Thor didn't do a single gesture to summon that tornado he not a spin of the hammer or anything, although he did spin it to make the winds stronger.
I wouldn't say that. Superman's Heat vision Melted a steel I beam in under a second.

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On a slightly, but not really, more serious note, MoS Supes is a beast. His speed, mobility, and flight are unmatched on the big screen. The only ones that come close are his fellow Kryptonians and the Hulk, though other then Zod, no flight. He also seems pretty indestructible (I wonder if he could fly through a space whale the way he flew through the scout ship), but as we know both of these incarnations of Superman and Thor can be killed.

I wouldn't say Clark is necessarily stronger, but it is the combination of speed and strength that would give Thor a lot of trouble. Thor might be able to hit Clark as hard, but he'd have to catch him and probably would have to take a lot more shots for his one.

Thor's best weapon in this fight would be his lightning. It isn't as direct as Clark's heat vision, but so far it has more potential to do big damage. The one disadvantage when it comes to Thor's lightning in the films is that so far he must gather it using his hammer if he wants to direct it, and that takes a bit of time. Clark is just too fast for that.

Though I do wonder what would happen if Thor put up a spinning hammer guard. Could be tough for Clark to get around. Would have to get fancy with the heat vision.

In the end though, I think the answer is clear. Batman with prep time beats them both at the same time.
The funny thing is that any and all Mjolnir based attacks would do Hella damage amusing MOS Superman as Comic Superman's Magic weakness.

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That's more like it. Thanks for putting up some arguments !

1. Not so sure about Thor not being KO'ed. I think Kurse
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. Although you are correct, Supes did get knocked down, and possibly knocked out for a few seconds by the giant Kryptonian.
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There's nothing indicating that Thor is knocked out by Kurse, he just can't get up as Kurse hits so hard. You'll notice that Thor gets right up after Kurse is taken out and shows no more sign of injury than a few cuts.

He is knocked out one time though, when he disrupts the Aether ritual at the end. That's hard to compare to any other superhero though as that power is beyond any of them.


And just to comment on the thread, I don't think anyone that almost dies from an asthma attack because the air gets a bit different has any right to win this fight. Thor is a jock, Superman is a nerd.

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There's nothing indicating that Thor is knocked out by Kurse, he just can't get up as Kurse hits so hard. You'll notice that Thor gets right up after Kurse is taken out and shows no more sign of injury than a few cuts.

He is knocked out one time though, when he disrupts the Aether ritual at the end. That's hard to compare to any other superhero though as that power is beyond any of them.


And just to comment on the thread, I don't think anyone that almost dies from an asthma attack because the air gets a bit different has any right to win this fight. Thor is a jock, Superman is a nerd.


Oh-ho, so it's like that ! Asthma huh ? Well, you admitted in your post, that Thor got KO'ed by an Elf, come on, on the face of it, that's not a very tough look. LOL.


I need to see TDW again, which I'm looking forward to, as it was a great
watch the first time, and I reckon I'll like it even more the second time,
BUT it certainly looked to me that if Loki hadn't intervened Kurse would have beaten Thor to death. It's not that he's just hitting hard, it's that
Thor can't fight back because he's getting seriously messed up.


Hard to tell, but Thor certainly wasn't fighting
back -personally, I can't see you guys arguing that Thor was just trying to lull Kurse into a false sense of security, or try to injure Kurse's fists with his face, or maybe he was waiting for Kurse's arms got tired from pounding on him - because if you do, then really Loki didn't need to step in. Obviously, given the ending, Loki didn't die (thank goodness, as while Thor's a good lead, Loki's the best character in the franchise), but I do get the feeling that he did actually try to save Thor from Kurse, regardless of his motivations, that's a reasonably noble act.

In fact, if Loki didn't need to step in, he probably wouldn't have. All this suggests that Thor was in serious trouble. Which is good, because if the main character's don't look like they're under a serious threat, then nobody cares what happens (like those godawful Star Wars prequels,
who gave a **** when Qui-Gon died ? not me). That's the brilliance,
of the Lord of the Rings films (especially the first one), when the characters are running away from every Orc in the world, you really get a sense of "They're screwed ! How are they going to get out of this one?"
and pretty much every person who I talked to, who thought that, had read the book (myself included). That's just good storytelling.

so on that note, I thought that Kurse had to be a legitimate threat to Thor (he certainly is in the comics), and that's good, because it makes the story (and thus the movie better).
If you argue that Thor wasn't really in trouble, it diminishes the film.


And now, because you made that asthma comment, I have to
get a bit silly again....

....Superman takes a beating from 2 Kryptonians, gets knocked out, but then recovers, smacks them around and gets up without a scratch ( I concede that showing a bit of blood would have been appropriate at this point). Next time Thor gets hit by a locomotive thrown from half-a mile away, or slammed through a couple of buildings until he hits a bank-vault, or re-enters Earth's atmosphere from space (while fighting somebody..... 30,000 feet, hah ! that's nothing) maybe I'll concede he's got a decent chance against Supes.


BTW on the worthiness front, Odin says "Whoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy shall possess the power of Thor." Hard to say that Supes ain't gonna be worthy,(hmmm...saved Earth, kids on the bus, only kills as a last resort) but also clearly Odin's a bit sexist, as "he" seems to suggest that WW wouldn't be worthy - kidding of course, she's more than worthy.

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I think Superman MOS would win.

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Old 11-03-2013, 01:41 AM   #22
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Default Re: Thor (from TDW) vs Superman (from MOS) who wins in a fight, and why ?

Superman has the chest hair advantage and better taste in women. Clear winner.

On a slightly, but not really, more serious note, MoS Supes is a beast. His speed, mobility, and flight are unmatched on the big screen. The only ones that come close are his fellow Kryptonians and the Hulk, though other then Zod, no flight. He also seems pretty indestructible (I wonder if he could fly through a space whale the way he flew through the scout ship), but as we know both of these incarnations of Superman and Thor can be killed.

I wouldn't say Clark is necessarily stronger, but it is the combination of speed and strength that would give Thor a lot of trouble. Thor might be able to hit Clark as hard, but he'd have to catch him and probably would have to take a lot more shots for his one.

Thor's best weapon in this fight would be his lightning. It isn't as direct as Clark's heat vision, but so far it has more potential to do big damage. The one disadvantage when it comes to Thor's lightning in the films is that so far he must gather it using his hammer if he wants to direct it, and that takes a bit of time. Clark is just too fast for that.

Though I do wonder what would happen if Thor put up a spinning hammer guard. Could be tough for Clark to get around. Would have to get fancy with the heat vision.

In the end though, I think the answer is clear. Batman with prep time beats them both at the same time.

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^ Great post Darth

I agree with you Supes not necessarily being stronger, because he didn'tdo anything in MOS that Thor couldn't do as well (strength wise). He just threw his strength around a lot more due to who directed the film and you people are enamored with gratuitous strength feats. The speed is definitely a factor but MOS Supes wasn't that efficient at using it, he hardly ever used it in battle and when he did it wasn't fast enough to give Thor much of a problem. Now Faora on the other hand, she speed blazed like crazy, FAR better and more often than anyone in MOS. I think Supes wasn't as adept due to his lack of fighting experience.

MOS Supes while tough also wasn't as invulnerable as some make it out to be, he was K'O'ed atleadt three times in the film, once after catching that oil tanker at sea, then during his fight with Faora and Namek, as well as after he destroyed that gravity machine.

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And yet Loki hurt him with a little dagger. To the point that he had trouble landing a few moments later.

The Hulk punch thing, I am not sure about, mainly because we don't know how strong Hulk was at that moment. The best domestration of Asgardian strength is in a deleted scene from the first movie. Volstagg helping the child retrieve their ball.

Unlike Thor, Superman hasn't had to compete with different writers and script based injuries yet. We will see what happens when Batman shows up. I expect plenty of stupid when that happens.

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And yet Loki hurt him with a little dagger. To the point that he had trouble landing a few moments later.

The Hulk punch thing, I am not sure about, mainly because we don't know how strong Hulk was at that moment. The best domestration of Asgardian strength is in a deleted scene from the first movie. Volstagg helping the child retrieve their ball.

Unlike Thor, Superman hasn't had to compete with different writers and script based injuries yet. We will see what happens when Batman shows up. I expect plenty of stupid when that happens.
Well unlike Superman, Thor was in a film with several other supersedes and couldn' be totally invulnerable. Besides "low showing" are invalid, especially when you can tell they'rejust there because the story calls for it even though they make no sense.

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