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Old 04-19-2014, 04:12 PM   #1
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Old 04-19-2014, 04:12 PM   #3
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One of the things I give the MCU huge props for is not making Steve an old Conservative jack*** at heart. I hate when people assume/write him as waking up in the 21st century and hating technology, being surprised women/homosexuals have rights, having the "'Murica" mentality, etc. But as TWS showed (as well as the other films), he's really a chill guy. He even has that comment at the beginning about how more efficient researching is now due to the internet.
When has he ever been written that way?

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When has he ever been written that way?
Mainly in Ultimate and in fanfiction.

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When has he ever been written that way?
He's definitely got the whole "Murica" thing going on in Ultimates, but everyone's an ******* in Ultimates. This is the same continuity where Hulk is a wannabe rapist (poor Freddie Prinze Jr.) and Hank Pym is so abusive Jan's apparently suffered broken bones at his hands. As for hating technology, some of the cartoons play up the old man not getting this new fangled technology bit.

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Pretty sure Steve has always been portrayed as a good human being. I don't think it's been any other way.

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chris hemsworth's wife just tweeted from London so that means Chris is in London too. The whole gang is finally assembled

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Same. I really wanna see if they updated Thor's costume at all.

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Yeah but Ultimates is just an alternate universe thats really jyst a hiccup and never canon to Steve's 70 years of existence.

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Yeah but Ultimates is just an alternate universe thats really jyst a hiccup and never canon to Steve's 70 years of existence.
It was supposed to be a modern/updated and more realistic reimagining of Captain America. Going by that, there was nothing more modern about him.

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Yeah but Ultimates is just an alternate universe thats really jyst a hiccup and never canon to Steve's 70 years of existence.
it's the template for the marvel cinematic universe. it's why Nick Fury is black. it's why the roster includes Hawkeye and Black Widow. it's where the Chitauri were created. it's why the Avengers are tied into S.H.I.E.L.D.

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it's the template for the marvel cinematic universe. it's why Nick Fury is black. it's why the roster includes Hawkeye and Black Widow. it's where the Chitauri were created. it's why the Avengers are tied into S.H.I.E.L.D.
umm.....what? The 616 Avengers roster included Hawkeye and Black Widow, too. Also, *both* 616 and Ultimate featured Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne as Day One Founders, whereas MCU Avengers pays homage to neither.

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umm.....what? The 616 Avengers roster included Hawkeye and Black Widow, too. Also, *both* 616 and Ultimate featured Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne as Day One Founders, whereas MCU Avengers pays homage to neither.
Hawkeye and Black Widow weren't FOUNDING Avengers in the 616 universe, nor was SHIELD heavily involved in putting the team together (to the point of even coming up with the name). That's what the MCU took from the Ultimate Universe. Also, the Chitauri are from the UU as well.

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Hawkeye and Black Widow weren't FOUNDING Avengers in the 616 universe, nor was SHIELD heavily involved in putting the team together (to the point of even coming up with the name). That's what the MCU took from the Ultimate Universe. Also, the Chitauri are from the UU as well.
The MCU Founders takes the mythology of both Ultimate and 616, mixes it up, and creates its own thing. Hulk wasn't part of the Ultimate Founders (in fact, he was their enemy rather than their ally); Cap, Widow, and Hawkeye weren't part of the 616 Founders. *Both* teams counted Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne as their original (and two of their longest-running) team members, whereas MCU Avengers shows no inclination to recognize either in the forseeable future.

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So did Millar by any chance have any involvement in Ultimate Cap?

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He did! However could you tell?

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Lucky guess. He's like the Jeph Loeb of Comic Book Writers.

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Uh... You might wanna steer clear of The Ultimates altogether. Volume 3 in particular.

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Volume 3 made me give up on The Ultimate universe altogether.

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