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William McKinley (1897-1901) 0 0%
Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909) 13 18.06%
William Howard Taft (1909-1913) 0 0%
Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) 0 0%
Warren Gamaliel Harding (1921-1923) 0 0%
Calvin Coolidge (1923-1929) 0 0%
Herbert Clark Hoover (1929-1933) 1 1.39%
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1933-1945) 32 44.44%
Harry S. Truman (1945-1953) 3 4.17%
Dwight David Eisenhower (1953-1961) 1 1.39%
John Fitzgerald Kennedy (1961-1963) 7 9.72%
Lyndon Baines Johnson (1963-1969) 2 2.78%
Richard Milhous Nixon (1969-1974) 0 0%
Gerald Rudolph Ford (1974-1977) 0 0%
James Earl Carter, Jr. (1977-1981) 0 0%
Ronald Wilson Reagan (1981-1989) 6 8.33%
George Herbert Walker Bush (1989-1993) 0 0%
William Jefferson Clinton (1993-2001) 7 9.72%
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:02 PM   #101
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FDR was good no doubt, but Teddy Roosevelt was just plain cool. He went on a safari to get a bear skin rug for every room in the white house. He also built the Panama Canal and was quite the conservationist.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:03 PM   #102
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Ah, your father is the lawyer, is your mother the doctor? Or is that your brother? You're full of it.
Dental hygenist actually. Worked her way through school as a waitress at pizza hut while my dad was off getting his career launched no less.

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Hippy I can't agree with you on abortion. Iys immoral and barbaric.
We can, as reasonable people, debate whether or not a fetus is a person, and entailed to the rights of one.
But its a biological fact that life starts at conception.
And I can't support the slaughter of true innocents for convenience.
"You see, I'm also a Obsterician in my spare time, so I know exactly when life starts for a child."

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Yes, but Islam doesnt designate Christians or Jews as their enemy.
Seriously, if I hear another person claim that Islam is a religon of peace and puppy winks I'm going to rip my hair out. That's like claiming the Old Testament is peaceful as you ignore the "kill homosexuals" in Leviticus 20:13.

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As to muslims, They seriously need an enlightenment and reformation. BTW have you ever been to a Musliom country? I have, its also the only place I have ever seen an actual slave market.

Actually thats exactly what i am. Well halfway there anyway.
The Muslims nations were pretty advanced (they invented quite a few things) until Genghis Khan whiped out their kingdoms and sent them into the dark ages. Just like what happend in Europe after the fall of Rome, the difference is that those nations haven't gotten out. Turkey is pretty advanced for a Muslim nation.

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Old 02-15-2007, 11:05 PM   #105
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Matt never said that the States was the lone irritant. He basically said what you said first.
I know, but I got caught up in the moment

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Old 02-15-2007, 11:05 PM   #106
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I just cant respect a man who cheats on his wife. Its a moral issue with me.
I love how people never fail to bring that up. What did that have to do with his actual actions as president, really? I won't argue that he was a slimeball for cheating on his wife...repeatedly, but people need to stop looking at that and screaming, "He is bad man, so...er-uh, he must be bad prezudent!"

Honestly, the dude gets impeached for lying about getting a hummer, yet our current president lies to the American people in order to start a war which has cost thousands of lives, racks up a record-setting debt and basically does everything possible to turn the most volitile world leaders against us, but he doesn't? Give me a damn break.

I post Clinton's picture partly because it riles people up and partly because he was a great president, regardless of his moral decisions. Say what you will, but I'm looking at America in 1998 vs. America in 2007 and we've fallen a long, long way.

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and yes, to an extent, his actions and policies did somewhat play a part in the events of 9 / 11.
I'd really like to see your proof for that statement.

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"You see, I'm also a Obsterician in my spare time, so I know exactly when life starts for a child."
Anyone who has gone through 10th grade biology knows this if they are being honest with themselves.
The moment the egg becomes fertilised it is a seperate living organism.

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I love how people never fail to bring that up. What did that have to do with his actual actions as president, really? I won't argue that he was a slimeball for cheating on his wife...repeatedly, but people need to stop looking at that and screaming, "He is bad man, so...er-uh, he must be bad prezudent!"

Honestly, the dude gets impeached for lying about getting a hummer, yet our current president lies to the American people in order to start a war which has cost thousands of lives, racks up a record-setting debt and basically does everything possible to turn the most volitile world leaders against us, but he doesn't? Give me a damn break.

I post Clinton's picture partly because it riles people up and partly because he was a great president, regardless of his moral decisions. Say what you will, but I'm looking at America in 1998 vs. America in 2007 and we've fallen a long, long way.
Did I say it had anything to do with his Presidentcy? No. Someone said "I respect the man" and I said I can't respect the man because - blah blah blah.

Infidelity is another reason I dislike FDR (when he died he was on a trip with a mistress) though I didn't bring it up because it has no showing on his Presidentcy.

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The Soviets were not really communists. They were closer to socialists. Peaceful co-exisitence could've been possible with a little more diplomacy and less of a "My gun is bigger than your gun" attitude.
The Soviets were communists, not socialists. Socialism is defined as having a government that provides for the basic needs of all it's people. Communism on the other hand is having a government in which all ownership is given to the community, or the state. The Soviets had a failed Communist government. At a certain point, their Marxist revolution was hijacked by Lenin, and then the possibility of completing that revolution was crushed by Stalin.

The revolution of communism works like this:

1. It starts out with a dictatorship of the borgeoisie, or the rich. (In Russia's case, the Czar, his government, the royal family, the Russian Orthodox Church, essentially the "haves" of Russia.)

2. Violent revolution and overthrow of the borgeoisie by the proletariat, or the poor. (Lenin and his communist Bolsheviks, who were the "people's party" overthrow the Russian government in 1917)

3. Dictatorship of the proletariat. For a short while, the proletariat must wield ultimate power in order to elminate the remaining bourgeoise and their system. (This is where the true idea of Communism in the Soviet Union stalled. After the Russian Civil War, and the Communist Red's victory in 1921, Lenin became a dictator. Instead of holding free elections, like the next step of communist revolution calls for, he held on to his power. After his death, Stalin strenghtened that power and instead of continuing in the Marxist revolution, he warped it's ideals and used it to his own paranoid advantage in order to stay in power and turn Russia into a global super power.)

4. True Communism (no private property, no classes, democratic)


The Soviet Union was on the way to becoming a true communist society when it was hijacked by dictators. However, that did not mean the Soviets didnt stay true to the part of Marxism that abolishes private property. Nor the idea that a sucessful communist regime should ignite other communist revolts in other parts of the world and remain openly hostile to all forms of capitalism. Hence China, Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. Therefore, the Soviet form of communism was a direct threat to America and capitalism at large.

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Old 02-15-2007, 11:09 PM   #110
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Abortion is a non-issue for me.

And who gives a damn about it anyway? This isn't even an abortion thread.

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Did I say it had anything to do with his Presidentcy? No. Someone said "I respect the man" and I said I can't respect the man because - blah blah blah.

Infidelity is another reason I dislike FDR (when he died he was on a trip with a mistress) though I didn't bring it up because it has no showing on his Presidentcy.

For all his faults Clinton was a better speaker on camera, or in person, than any one else, by a large margin.
I still watch some of his old speeches before a big presentation.

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Anyone who has gone through 10th grade biology knows this if they are being honest with themselves.
The moment the egg becomes fertilised it is a seperate living organism.
Oh really, if at that point it's a seperate living organism that deserves human rights why does it have no nervous system and why can it feel its mothers pain? Pro-life advocates merely take an emotional response on the topic.

Now, answer this question above all... does a parasitic twin deserve to live?

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How sweet, this thread has turned into an abortion, infidelity and communism thread all morphed together in some kind of internet abomination.

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FDR was good no doubt, but Teddy Roosevelt was just plain cool. He went on a safari to get a bear skin rug for every room in the white house. He also built the Panama Canal and was quite the conservationist.
Teddy Roosevelt kicked ass. He was Chuck Norris before Chuck Norris was ever invented...plus he was President to top it off. Anyone who can get shot, get up, finish his speach and then drive himself to the hospital deserves props.

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Abortion is a non-issue for me.

And who gives a damn about it anyway? This isn't even an abortion thread.
I posted in the wrong thread by mistake.

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Seriously, if I hear another person claim that Islam is a religon of peace and puppy winks I'm going to rip my hair out. That's like claiming the Old Testament is peaceful as you ignore the "kill homosexuals" in Leviticus 20:13.
Taken out of context. I didn't say that Islam was a peaceful religion. I was simply saying that Islam doesn't designate Christianity and Judaism as it's sworn enemy. Islam is not the exact opposite of those relgions.

Capitalism is the sworn enemy of Communism, and it is also the exact opposite. I was just using Islam as counter-example to Matt's example.

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Teddy Roosevelt kicked ass. He was Chuck Norris before Chuck Norris was ever invented...plus he was President to top it off. Anyone who can get shot, get up, finish his speach and then drive himself to the hospital deserves props.
I would vote for the zombified corpse of Teddy Roosevelt over anyone any party can put on the ticket.

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Dude, this is about presidents from the 20th century, not the 21st century
Haha...owned.

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How sweet, this thread has turned into an abortion, infidelity and communism thread all morphed together in some kind of internet abomination.

Lol. It's pretty funny that any slightly political thread on the Hype usually disintegrates into a big orgy of those topics.

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Lol. It's pretty funny that any slightly political thread on the Hype usually disintegrates into a big orgy of those topics.
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lol Id like to see somebody vote for TAFT.....

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William J. Clinton.

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Great President...or the greatest!
Or President from the wrong century.

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lol Id like to see somebody vote for TAFT.....
The only thing that Taft did was to be the fattest president ever.

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