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Old 03-18-2008, 06:57 PM   #26
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Not sure it being a teen works for the character, but i like Iron Man's design. I won't say it'll sucks until I see an episode to make a final judgement.

I'll check it out since I have the channel.

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Old 03-18-2008, 07:01 PM   #27
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I guess Marvel is only concerned about using animation to lure in uninitiated kids. I understand their objective but why do they have to do it at the expense of the fans they already have? One thing I know is that kids don't like being talked down to. Making dumb-down kiddie crap won't win over any new fans. It's also limited thinking. Kids turned on by the movie aren't going to like a completely different cartoon version.

The new kiddie Spider-Man is awful. Anime and goofy Fantastic Four was a flop. Why not make intelligent animation based off the actual storylines from the books? X-Men did this in a water-downed way and it was a hit in the 90's. Quit gearing everything for eight year olds and you'll be surprised at how many kids will be attracted to the product.



Yes, by all means, let's return the character to his lowest point in the past 40 years.
It annoys me as well.
The video game industry learnt that their audience grew up, and made games geared toward more mature audiences.

The comics themselves have gotten more mature, I don't blame them for still marketing to fresh young minds, but give the older fans something they can appreciate as well.
I'm pretty young at 23 compared to some of you guys, and I can't imagine how frustrating it can be!

I remember a while ago hearing they'd start adapting storylines from the comics for their cartoons, there is a lot of good material there to work from.

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Old 03-18-2008, 07:06 PM   #28
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A better look at the same pic from the article...

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Old 03-19-2008, 12:51 AM   #29
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i guess i won't be watching this, since i can't relate to it. I can only relate to the alcoholic Tony Stark.

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Old 03-19-2008, 12:54 AM   #30
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Annimated Iron Man looked best in the '60's series and the appearace in Spidey & Friends in the '80's. Everything else has been sub-subpar, and lasted long enough to reflect just that.

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Old 03-19-2008, 01:03 AM   #31
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Avi Arid is why so many of Marvel's projects are seeing the light of day. The creativity is sucked out and the characters are portrayed at there most base, so apise the fans who just want the product out there.

He has had some success, the X-Men series in the '90's was the best, but every thing since has been one lame ass duck after another. 2 FF series, 3 Spidey's, etc. Which is why they don't last more than a season.

He fully believes in quantity over quality.

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Old 03-19-2008, 05:20 AM   #32
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Annimated Iron Man looked best in the '60's series and the appearace in Spidey & Friends in the '80's. Everything else has been sub-subpar, and lasted long enough to reflect just that.
shellhead never appeared in amazing friends but tony stark did ,he gave the spider friends a computer as a reward for saving his life

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Old 03-19-2008, 06:51 AM   #33
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Yes! it just got confirmed and guess what? is sooo effing lame
from the artcile: "For Nicktoons, the interpretation translates into a teen Iron Man, a superhero closer in age to the network's young viewers."

Really the 90's are the golden age for super hero animation, in 2000's every body is trying to make superheors teenagers, i was really hoping that this cartoon will be a good one and was looking forward to it well not anymore!

source: http://www.usatoday.com/life/televis...icktoons_N.htm
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The Batman sucked, Spectacular Spider-Man is crap, now they're gonna crap on Iron Man?

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Old 03-19-2008, 08:38 AM   #34
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This is incredibly pathetic. Teen Iron Man? Lord save us.

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Old 03-19-2008, 09:07 AM   #35
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How does a teen age iron Man have heart problems and come up with such an invention....

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Old 03-19-2008, 09:36 AM   #36
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5th period science class.

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Old 03-19-2008, 10:11 AM   #37
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How does a teen age iron Man have heart problems and come up with such an invention....
Yeah, quite a bit harder to swallow than web-shooters. I was hoping for more stuff like that awesome CGI cartoon from Marvel Kids.

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Old 03-19-2008, 10:42 AM   #38
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Well, I guess they can deal with teenage drinkning

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Old 03-19-2008, 11:52 AM   #39
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Then I gotta hear him say, "Don't be a square, man! Anybody who's anybody drinks."

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Old 03-19-2008, 12:30 PM   #40
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I must say, this is something I NEVER would have expected. A teen life Iron Man...does that mean that Iron-Man won't be a corporate mascot, help the army, and provide them with the armors like he does now in the comics?

Well...it may sound dumb, but, just dumb enough to get me to check it out.

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Old 03-19-2008, 12:48 PM   #41
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Teenagers can only watch cartoons about teenagers hurf durf

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Old 03-19-2008, 01:09 PM   #42
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This doesn't even make sense.

There are some superheroes that can work well as teenagers, like Spider-man and the X-Men. Iron Man is not one of them.

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Old 03-19-2008, 01:13 PM   #43
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This doesn't even make sense.

There are some superheroes that can work well as teenagers, like Spider-man and the X-Men. Iron Man is not one of them.
No you don't understand! Every superhero has to be like Spider-Man to be successful!

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I'll chime in on this one.

I learned, or realized a long while back that the era I loved has passed me by.
I also realized that the movie, comic book makers,...whoever, think the only appeal is to skew to a young audience. They're supposedly the bulk of the ticket sales and the most repeat viewers.

However, I remember as a teen aspiring to be like the grown up heroes I read about. I never wanted to be a gawky, gangly, awkward superhero. I wanted to be the grown, fully developed, finished product. I just don't get the skinny, teen "Ultimate" versions that are out now. It seems almost insulting to the audience it's targeted to, IMO.

Even if the world has passed me by a bit, and I've become the grumpy old man that doesn't want the kids across the street to bounce the damn basketball in front of my house over and over, right after I get my kid down for an afternoon nap,- I still believe that kids basically will buy into and understand the coolness of the heroes that attracted me as a kid.

I'm not that old or out of touch.

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Old 03-19-2008, 08:46 PM   #45
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I think that at least with the movies they are treating them with more maturity and respect.
You'll get the occasional stinkers like Ghost Rider and the Fantastic Four that is made for... Umm, very undemanding target audiences.
But lots have smartened up, and I think Marvel will keep on this path.

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Old 03-19-2008, 10:39 PM   #46
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Well, it sort of worked for ULTIMATE IRON MAN...

Sort of.

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Iron Man isn't Spider-man. Spectacular Spider-man is decent, The Batman had one good season out of five, but this can't be that good. I mean, I guarantee that the storylines will be the exact same as Spider-man.

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shellhead never appeared in amazing friends but tony stark did ,he gave the spider friends a computer as a reward for saving his life

The last shot of that episode that had the Beetle in it, had a short ancillary scene of Iron Man flying through space while Stan Lee was narriating who Stark actually was at the end. I didn't show up on some of the latter re-air's, but back in teh day it did. It was Red and Gold Layton armor w/ the dics on the sides.

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But that was not a teenage Bruce Wayne.
This series is changing one of the key aspects of Tony Stark's character just so the young kids who watch the show can "relate" to him. Batman the Animated series did not change Bruce Wayne into a teenager, and lots of kids loved it. The main character of animated/kids shows does not need to be young for kids to like them.
dude, great point

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Über-lame.

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