LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man! - Page 3

Odin's Lapdog · 03-20-2008, 04:25 AM

the constant need to reinvent one's character is a lack of faith in that character as a product.

you don't see coke changing its forumla every 2 years to fit in with the current buzz of new drinks.

3dman27 · 03-20-2008, 04:45 AM

a very good point odin's lapdog this seems to me to be more like stan lee's character the condor than iron man

samsnee · 03-20-2008, 06:24 AM

I'm guessing Stark's not even going to have his traditional goatee.

Rac · 03-20-2008, 06:29 AM

Don't think so, but I bet he has anime-spiky hair.

Iron_Stark · 03-20-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by samsnee

I'm guessing Stark's not even going to have his traditional goatee.

I was thinking that, or that he'll be like Pedro from Napolean Dynamite, the only highschool kid with a mustache.

Radio_Clash · 03-20-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron_Stark

I was thinking that, or that he'll be like Pedro from Napolean Dynamite, the only highschool kid with a mustache.

Too me that would make the whole show.

kedrell · 03-20-2008, 03:57 PM

Well if we want to get technical, wasn't Stark already at M.I.T. when he was a teenager?

Iron_Stark · 03-20-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kedrell

Well if we want to get technical, wasn't Stark already at M.I.T. when he was a teenager?

That is true, Tony graduated HS at 12 and M.I.T. when he was a teen.

But screw that, that just won't be relatable. Now we're going to get teen Tony, who'll get injured by a highschool science project because I'm sure now they won't have a teen arms dealer in the middle east.

Blade X · 03-21-2008, 03:39 PM

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I guess Marvel is only concerned about using animation to lure in uninitiated kids. I understand their objective but why do they have to do it at the expense of the fans they already have? One thing I know is that kids don't like being talked down to. Making dumb-down kiddie crap won't win over any new fans. It's also limited thinking. Kids turned on by the movie aren't going to like a completely different cartoon version.

The new kiddie Spider-Man is awful. Anime and goofy Fantastic Four was a flop. Why not make intelligent animation based off the actual storylines from the books? X-Men did this in a water-downed way and it was a hit in the 90's. Quit gearing everything for eight year olds and you'll be surprised at how many kids will be attracted to the product.

1. The fans that Marvel already have are a shrinking and dying fan base. It's by appealing exclusively to the existing and shrinking older teen and adult readership over the last 10 years why Marvel (and DC) comic sales have fallen so damn low.

2. Just because they are making this version of Iron Man a teenager, DOES NOT mean that they will be talking down to the audience. We have no proof that this show will be "dumb-down kiddie crap".

3. The new SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN cartoon is GREAT. And while the show is aimed at kids, just like the other previous Spidey cartoons (except for the MTV Spider-Man series), it is NOT dumbed down. And remember, in the ORIGINAL comics, Spidey started out as a high school student.

4. The recent FF cartoon was only a flop in the States, but it was a HUGE hit everywhere else around the world.

5. I agree with you that making Tony a teenager in this new series is a bad/stupid idea.

terry78 · 03-21-2008, 03:48 PM

I'm sure he'll have some slicked back hair and a little chin goatee sans moustache. Because it's Nicktoons I can understand why, as most cartoons that are on tv now that aren't for adults star kids and teenagers, not like back in the day when a lot of them were grown-ups that just acted goofy.

CaptainStacy · 03-21-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 3dman27

GOOD NIGHT
first fisher price spider-man now THIS?

Seen any episodes? Three in, and many are already saying it's the best Spidey toon yet.

Joker · 03-22-2008, 03:28 AM

If they did it based on the Ultimate Iron-Man minis, it would be good...but they'll never show a teenage Obadiah Stane setting up Tonys dad for murder...

Joker · 03-22-2008, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainStacy

Seen any episodes? Three in, and many are already saying it's the best Spidey toon yet.

Yeah...those people are called "the blind," as they cant see the hidious characters.

Shivsguy616 · 03-22-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Joker

Yeah...those people are called "the blind," as they cant see the hidious characters.

What's hideous about them?

3dman27 · 03-22-2008, 05:02 AM

like someone[ besides myself] mentioned earlier the art looks too fisher-price mr galloway's art style worked for hellboy but not spidey

Franklin Richards · 03-22-2008, 05:12 AM

I'm suprised they didn't write Tony Stark out all together and put Rhodey in the Golden Avenger armor.

Just to hit a different "demographic".

The Guard · 03-22-2008, 08:16 AM

I can almost see it working. Heck, if they were brave enough to get into the alcoholism at some point, it'd have a whole new level to it.

CaptainStacy · 03-22-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Shivsguy616

What's hideous about them?

Certainly not the ratings.

chamber-music · 03-22-2008, 09:34 AM

When they say deal with teen issues what they mean is Starks gonna be after the head cheerleader but her football player boyfriend who doesn't like stark is gonna come between them. Thats what happens in pretty much every american teen show/movie/cartoon I have ever seen and I have seen a lot.

Gold Samurai · 03-23-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Guard

I can almost see it working. Heck, if they were brave enough to get into the alcoholism at some point, it'd have a whole new level to it.

They'll change his addiction to something more playful

Stark- I just can't stop drinking Mr Pibb!

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Originally Posted by samsnee

I guarantee that the storylines will be the exact same as Spider-man.

Stark- Aw man I totally blew off helping Jimmy Rhodes study for that biology exam! and i've got a date with Pepper.

Prefix · 03-23-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Guard

I can almost see it working. Heck, if they were brave enough to get into the alcoholism at some point, it'd have a whole new level to it.

But they're not gonna do that. We're going to get Peter Parker: Iron Man.

Lunar_Wolf · 03-23-2008, 08:28 AM

The concept sounds like a sick and twisted joke...

3dman27 · 03-23-2008, 09:10 AM

as the thread title says this idea is LAME

Spider-Vader · 03-23-2008, 10:21 AM

Ewwww.... They're on Nick. Anything on Nick eventually turns into crap, look at poor Spongebob.

dodgers2213 · 03-23-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Vader

Ewwww.... They're on Nick. Anything on Nick eventually turns into crap, look at poor Spongebob.

03-20-2008, 04:25 AM	#51
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03-20-2008, 04:45 AM	#52
3dman27 super-hero wannabe Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in the middle of a superhero adventure Posts: 34,351	Re: LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man! a very good point odin's lapdog this seems to me to be more like stan lee's character the condor than iron man __________________ to me superheroes are to americans what the myths of the greeks and romans are to them[deemar 325] avatar by philly phanboy and drakon i believe in chris evans for captain america

03-20-2008, 06:24 AM	#53
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03-20-2008, 06:29 AM	#54
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03-20-2008, 03:57 PM	#57
kedrell You'll never Beetus Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Driving coast to coast Posts: 15,348	Re: LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man! Well if we want to get technical, wasn't Stark already at M.I.T. when he was a teenager? __________________ Holding out hope.....

03-21-2008, 03:48 PM	#60
terry78 I'm laughing internally Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 53,683	Re: LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man! I'm sure he'll have some slicked back hair and a little chin goatee sans moustache. Because it's Nicktoons I can understand why, as most cartoons that are on tv now that aren't for adults star kids and teenagers, not like back in the day when a lot of them were grown-ups that just acted goofy. __________________ It's better to be seen than viewed. ----------- Who the **** makes a movie and while planning it is like, "you know what this needs...is some Greg Kinnear."

03-22-2008, 03:28 AM	#62
Joker Banned User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Ha-Hacienda Posts: 33,772	Re: LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man! If they did it based on the Ultimate Iron-Man minis, it would be good...but they'll never show a teenage Obadiah Stane setting up Tonys dad for murder...

03-22-2008, 05:02 AM	#65
3dman27 super-hero wannabe Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in the middle of a superhero adventure Posts: 34,351	Re: LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man! like someone[ besides myself] mentioned earlier the art looks too fisher-price mr galloway's art style worked for hellboy but not spidey __________________ to me superheroes are to americans what the myths of the greeks and romans are to them[deemar 325] avatar by philly phanboy and drakon i believe in chris evans for captain america

03-22-2008, 05:12 AM	#66
Franklin Richards Banned User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Baxter Building Posts: 23,030	Re: LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man! I'm suprised they didn't write Tony Stark out all together and put Rhodey in the Golden Avenger armor. Just to hit a different "demographic".

03-22-2008, 08:16 AM	#67
The Guard Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,119	Re: LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man! I can almost see it working. Heck, if they were brave enough to get into the alcoholism at some point, it'd have a whole new level to it. __________________ Writer and Lyricist of GOTHAM'S KNIGHT: THE BATMAN MUSICAL And if I'm right The future's looking bright A symbol in the skies at night

03-22-2008, 09:34 AM	#69
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03-23-2008, 09:10 AM	#73
3dman27 super-hero wannabe Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: in the middle of a superhero adventure Posts: 34,351	Re: LAME: the new iron-man cartoons are about a teen iron-man! as the thread title says this idea is LAME __________________ to me superheroes are to americans what the myths of the greeks and romans are to them[deemar 325] avatar by philly phanboy and drakon i believe in chris evans for captain america

03-23-2008, 10:21 AM	#74
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