The Superman: TAS discussion thread.

Noir · 03-23-2008, 08:01 PM

Loved it.
I didn't see a thread for it.
So lets discuss it.

I loved the series finale

and Speed Demons was a good episode.
and it was cool to see Lobo on there.

Doctor Baywatch · 03-24-2008, 08:10 AM

I refuse to watch a series where Superman is stupid and so weak that he goes down every episode.

Batman was excellent, Justice League was good but Superman... boring.

Angeloz · 03-25-2008, 09:34 AM

Unfortunately I can't get most of the episodes on DVD because they won't release the box sets here. We did get the first three episodes as a movie on DVD. As well as a single disc which included the classic episode of "The Late Mr. Kent". I wish I could get the rest as well as the Batman (they released Volume 1 - that's it), Batman Beyond and Justice League (plus JLU) box sets.

Angeloz

fabman · 03-25-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Baywatch

I refuse to watch a series where Superman is stupid and so weak that he goes down every episode.

Batman was excellent, Justice League was good but Superman... boring.

Sorry, but I have to disagree. This series is what made me a Superman fan again, and it's what a new Supes movie should have been like.

LONG LIVE BRUCE TIMM!

CLARKY · 03-26-2008, 04:08 AM

^agreed, the serie is almost perfection. The very weak Superman disturbed me but I understood the stories wouldn't have been so good with an all mighty Superman. He reminded me of the Superman of the 40es. There was a good balance between Clark, Kal El and superman.
I wish I could name the episodes I like, but I like almost them all : "late Mr Kent" was great, "Double dose" is my favorite, every episode including Luthor are great, "speed demons" was excellent, "fish story" was excellent too! So many ...

Good thread!

RogueDK · 04-03-2008, 08:48 PM

I'm a huge fan of that series. The watered down Superman concept didn't bother me; it actually made the stories more interesting.

My favorite episode on Vol. 3 of the DVD sets is Knight Time where Superman has to aid Robin in finding a missing Batman by masquerading as the Dark Knight himself.

The exchange between Supes and Commissioner Gordon was just priceless.

Good times.

Andy C. · 04-04-2008, 07:41 AM

I wasn't particularly fond of Superman's powers being watered-down so much, but while I wouldn't want to see it in the comics, it definitely worked for the series. I absolutely loved Timm's version on most of the villains (especially Brainiac)

Overall, it's not my favorite of the Timm cartoons (that would still be the original BTAS by a long-shot, with JLU coming in second), but it's still a really solid show.

RogueDK · 04-04-2008, 01:05 PM

Does anyone here remember the Superman Anitmated Series from the late 80s? Does anyone know when that will become available on DVD if at all?

I loved that one too.

Cain · 04-07-2008, 12:09 PM

My favorite modernization of the mythos yes I even greatly prefer it to both of the post-crisis origin retellings. It took what I consider to tbe the best elements from every single era put em in a blender and liquified them into greatness. Hands down still my favorite Superman adaptation ever only Superman: The Movie comes close. I wish it was still on the air to this day.

Cain · 04-07-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RogueDK

Does anyone here remember the Superman Anitmated Series from the late 80s? Does anyone know when that will become available on DVD if at all?

I loved that one too.

Yeah the ruby spears show was very cool I liked how they kept music from the movies.

RogueDK · 04-07-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cain

Yeah the ruby spears show was very cool I liked how they kept music from the movies.

Glad to know that I'm not the only one; happen to know if it's ever going to be available for DVD?

Metal Spidey · 04-07-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Baywatch

I refuse to watch a series where Superman is stupid and so weak that he goes down every episode.

He wasn't weak. Name an episode where is was taken down by something other than Kryptonite, large doses of electicity or someone from Apokolips.

Cain · 04-08-2008, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RogueDK

Glad to know that I'm not the only one; happen to know if it's ever going to be available for DVD?

I've seen only bootlegs on DVD and never have heard anything about an official release. It's a shame I would like to have both this and the old filmation Batman animated series on DVD. I have a lot of memories associated with those 'toons.

Compi716 · 04-08-2008, 11:15 AM

TAS was/is great. Superman wasn't so powered down, either - he was powerful enough, but took a beating.

Favorite TAS moment: the scene in Knight Time when Superman (dressed as Batman) kicks the crap out of Bane and the other Bat-villains.

RogueDK · 04-08-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Compi716

Favorite TAS moment: the scene in Knight Time when Superman (dressed as Batman) kicks the crap out of Bane and the other Bat-villains.

Oh yes, that's my favorite one too...

Commissioner Gordon: "Where in Heaven's name have you been?"

Supes/Bat: "AWAY."

Commissioner Gordon: "Away? That's all I get?"

Supes/Bat nods with chin held high. Also notice how Gordon is checking out Superman's massive chin carefully.

After the exchange it always cracks me up how Superman walks away like Dracula doing the cape thing.

That is a four star ep.

Parents-Gun-Bat · 04-08-2008, 02:22 PM

Ruby-Spears Superman is MUCH better than Timm's boring version.

"Faster than a speeding bullet"

Parents-Gun-Bat · 04-08-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Metal Spidey

He wasn't weak. Name an episode where is was taken down by something other than Kryptonite, large doses of electicity or someone from Apokolips.

electricity is one thing. In the Ruby-Spears Superman intro he gets hit by lightning and nothing happens. THAT is the Superman I wanna see. TAS Superman went down every episode against some lame villain.

Even Batman threw him with some kind of Judo trick

And put a bug on him so he could follow him and find out his secret identity. What a dumbass, this Superman

Superman90 · 04-08-2008, 02:40 PM

S:TAS was the best show i ever saw and Justice League was awesome too. i mean i don't like that Superman gets taken out easily sometimes but against Darkseid, yeah Superman would have a hell of a time beating him bad, even though he kicked the crap out of Darkseid in "Twilight" on JL.

other than that i loved the show. the team up with Flash, Batman, Green Lantern, Supergirl, etc. were awesome to see especially in "World's Finest". awesome episode but i don't think anything beats "Apokolips Now!"

Cain · 04-08-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Parents-Gun-Bat

electricity is one thing. In the Ruby-Spears Superman intro he gets hit by lightning and nothing happens. THAT is the Superman I wanna see. TAS Superman went down every episode against some lame villain.

Even Batman threw him with some kind of Judo trick

And put a bug on him so he could follow him and find out his secret identity. What a dumbass, this Superman

I mean you got to understand that in certain respects they had to adhere to the Byrne, Jurgens post-crisis stuff not just pay tribute to everything else and ignore what was in the comics at the time. To me it's far from boring though and as I said still my favorite adaptation you want to see boring Superman media? just watch certain elements of the last movie.

RogueDK · 04-08-2008, 03:11 PM

It's always funny from a hindsight perspective, that there are alot of fans displeased with the diluted strength of the Timmverse Superman when I recall not long before STAS had started on network tv way back that people thought the character had become too boring because he was too invincible and a little outdated.

The Spears series of the 80s was awesome and I hold it in high regard but I think that DC/Timm had to shake the mythos up a little with this venture...IMO, it worked.

Parents-Gun-Bat · 04-08-2008, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogueDK

It's always funny from a hindsight perspective, that there are alot of fans displeased with the diluted strength of the Timmverse Superman when I recall not long before STAS had started on network tv way back that people thought the character had become too boring because he was too invincible and a little outdated.

The Spears series of the 80s was awesome and I hold it in high regard but I think that DC/Timm had to shake the mythos up a little with this venture...IMO, it worked.

The Ruby Spears Superman hadn't the budget of Timm's version and they had to follow Byrne's Marvelman, but thank god they just made him seem to follow this take but in the end made him still the old Superman. But it was made with love for the character, Timm's Superman was the work of a Batman fanboy. I mean C'MON! In "WOrld's Finest" Bruce Wayne steals away Lois Lane and Superman looks like a pathetic and helpless loser compared to the smart Batman.

RogueDK · 04-08-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Parents-Gun-Bat

Timm's Superman was the work of a Batman fanboy. I mean C'MON! In "WOrld's Finest" Bruce Wayne steals away Lois Lane and Superman looks like a pathetic and helpless loser compared to the smart Batman.

I'd love to ask Timm one day if I ever have the good fortune to meet him...

Parents-Gun-Bat · 04-08-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cain

I mean you got to understand that in certain respects they had to adhere to the Byrne, Jurgens post-crisis stuff not just pay tribute to everything else and ignore what was in the comics at the time. To me it's far from boring though and as I said still my favorite adaptation you want to see boring Superman media? just watch certain elements of the last movie.

Superman Returns was - of course - bad. Not on the technical level.

Even "Lois & Clark" was better.

Angeloz · 04-08-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RogueDK

I'd love to ask Timm one day if I ever have the good fortune to meet him...

I think they should be together anyway. I mean Superman/Batman.

Angeloz

RogueDK · 04-09-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Angeloz

I think they should be together anyway. I mean Superman/Batman.

Angeloz

Lol! Not cool, man...

03-23-2008, 08:01 PM	#1
Noir Banned User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Being the Worst. Posts: 15,836	The Superman: TAS discussion thread. Loved it. I didn't see a thread for it. So lets discuss it. I loved the series finale and Speed Demons was a good episode. and it was cool to see Lobo on there.

03-24-2008, 08:10 AM	#2
Doctor Baywatch Banned User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Astro City Posts: 640	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. I refuse to watch a series where Superman is stupid and so weak that he goes down every episode. Batman was excellent, Justice League was good but Superman... boring.

03-25-2008, 09:34 AM	#3
Angeloz Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,960	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. Unfortunately I can't get most of the episodes on DVD because they won't release the box sets here. We did get the first three episodes as a movie on DVD. As well as a single disc which included the classic episode of "The Late Mr. Kent". I wish I could get the rest as well as the Batman (they released Volume 1 - that's it), Batman Beyond and Justice League (plus JLU) box sets. Angeloz

03-26-2008, 04:08 AM	#5
CLARKY Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: france Posts: 2,634	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. ^agreed, the serie is almost perfection. The very weak Superman disturbed me but I understood the stories wouldn't have been so good with an all mighty Superman. He reminded me of the Superman of the 40es. There was a good balance between Clark, Kal El and superman. I wish I could name the episodes I like, but I like almost them all : "late Mr Kent" was great, "Double dose" is my favorite, every episode including Luthor are great, "speed demons" was excellent, "fish story" was excellent too! So many ... Good thread!

04-03-2008, 08:48 PM	#6
RogueDK Agent Of The Bat Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 6,330	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. I'm a huge fan of that series. The watered down Superman concept didn't bother me; it actually made the stories more interesting. My favorite episode on Vol. 3 of the DVD sets is *Knight Time* where Superman has to aid Robin in finding a missing Batman by masquerading as the Dark Knight himself. The exchange between Supes and Commissioner Gordon was just priceless. Good times. __________________ "Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a lighter incarnation, but it's certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots as the tortured avenger...crying out for Mommy & Daddy..."

04-04-2008, 07:41 AM	#7
Andy C. Repent, Harlequin! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Basement Posts: 3,520	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. I wasn't particularly fond of Superman's powers being watered-down so much, but while I wouldn't want to see it in the comics, it definitely worked for the series. I absolutely loved Timm's version on most of the villains (especially Brainiac) Overall, it's not my favorite of the Timm cartoons (that would still be the original BTAS by a long-shot, with JLU coming in second), but it's still a really solid show.

04-04-2008, 01:05 PM	#8
RogueDK Agent Of The Bat Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 6,330	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. Does anyone here remember the Superman Anitmated Series from the late 80s? Does anyone know when that will become available on DVD if at all? I loved that one too. __________________ "Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a lighter incarnation, but it's certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots as the tortured avenger...crying out for Mommy & Daddy..."

04-07-2008, 12:09 PM	#9
Cain "West West Y'all" Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Live from New York Posts: 4,937	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. My favorite modernization of the mythos yes I even greatly prefer it to both of the post-crisis origin retellings. It took what I consider to tbe the best elements from every single era put em in a blender and liquified them into greatness. Hands down still my favorite Superman adaptation ever only Superman: The Movie comes close. I wish it was still on the air to this day. __________________ Pull list: Saga, Thief of Thieves, The Manhattan Projects, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Harbinger, X-O Manowar, Bloodshot, Archer & Armstrong, Shadowman, Green Lantern, Red Lanterns, Justice League 3000, Superman, Action Comics, Detective Comics, Batman & ____, Batman, Red Hood & The Outlaws, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Swamp Thing, All-Star Western, Earth 2, Worlds' Finest, Superman/Wonder Woman, Daredevil, Superior Spider-Man, All-New X-Men

04-08-2008, 11:15 AM	#14
Compi716 The SHH! Jew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Los Angeles. Posts: 8,408	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. TAS was/is great. Superman wasn't so powered down, either - he was powerful enough, but took a beating. Favorite TAS moment: the scene in Knight Time when Superman (dressed as Batman) kicks the crap out of Bane and the other Bat-villains. __________________ Clark Kent is Superman's critique of the entire Human race. I write for this talent agency's blog. Read it, 'cause it's awesome: http://atbtalent.blogspot.com/

04-08-2008, 02:22 PM	#16
Parents-Gun-Bat Banned User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 180	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. Ruby-Spears Superman is MUCH better than Timm's boring version. "Faster than a speeding bullet"

04-08-2008, 02:40 PM	#18
Superman90 The Lord of Time Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 28	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. S:TAS was the best show i ever saw and Justice League was awesome too. i mean i don't like that Superman gets taken out easily sometimes but against Darkseid, yeah Superman would have a hell of a time beating him bad, even though he kicked the crap out of Darkseid in "Twilight" on JL. other than that i loved the show. the team up with Flash, Batman, Green Lantern, Supergirl, etc. were awesome to see especially in "World's Finest". awesome episode but i don't think anything beats "Apokolips Now!"

04-08-2008, 03:11 PM	#20
RogueDK Agent Of The Bat Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 6,330	Re: The Superman: TAS discussion thread. It's always funny from a hindsight perspective, that there are alot of fans displeased with the diluted strength of the Timmverse Superman when I recall not long before STAS had started on network tv way back that people thought the character had become too boring because he was too invincible and a little outdated. The Spears series of the 80s was awesome and I hold it in high regard but I think that DC/Timm had to shake the mythos up a little with this venture...IMO, it worked. __________________ "Batman's rich history allows him to be interpreted in a multitude of ways. To be sure, this is a lighter incarnation, but it's certainly no less valid and true to the character's roots as the tortured avenger...crying out for Mommy & Daddy..."

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