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Old 07-20-2008, 12:49 AM   #26
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or it might just never get rebuilt.

remember that Thomas Wayne is the one who had Lucius oversee the monorail and it's heavily implied that Wayne funded part if not the majority of the construction and he's the one who got the rest of it done through his connections etc

there's a lot of examples of things like that just being abandoned in the middle of the city. in NYC you see raised platforms for trains abandoned all over the boroughs including the High Line in manhattan which for decades was basically just left to rot

if Gotham is still rebuilding the Narrows and in a bad state, with no one to champion it, it might not get rebuilt

however, I think ppl are right, in some of those shots you can see at least a part of the monorail in passing but it's not featured because unlike in BB it doesn't matter. it's like asking, how is Rutger Hauers's character doing? Dunno no one cares... doesn't mean he's dead or whatever it's just not important

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Old 07-20-2008, 07:46 PM   #27
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First screencap from Begins, second from TDK. Sorry for the quality, I ripped them from youtube.

They're just using the building next door this time.
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Old 07-20-2008, 07:59 PM   #28
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Like everyone else had mention, Wayne Enterprises is in the background of the showdown with the semi and the batpod.

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Old 07-20-2008, 08:02 PM   #29
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Slightly off topic, but where was the Battersea Power Station? I don't remember seeing it, though I know they filmed there.

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Old 07-20-2008, 08:06 PM   #30
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Slightly off topic, but where was the Battersea Power Station? I don't remember seeing it, though I know they filmed there.
I believe it is the location where Rachel was killed.

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I believe it is the location where Rachel was killed.
Hmm...seems strange of them to go there just to film that. I don't remember any establishing shots. They could have easily done that anywhere else, including a soundstage.

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Old 07-21-2008, 11:30 PM   #33
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Okay.. in the END of batman begins, bruce says he is going to re-build wayne manor from the ground up, exactly the same.. and do some editing to the east wing.. ( the bat cave ! :-D ) and after seeing this movie 5 times now.. i recalled in the very beginning of TDK, Alfred said, " it will be nice when wayne manor is finished being rebuilt sir, something something, you wont have to sleep in the penthouse any more,"

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Old 07-21-2008, 11:32 PM   #34
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and im POSITIVE he said this.. i just came back from seeing this again today.. AND i watched batman begins last night lol.

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Okay.. in the END of batman begins, bruce says he is going to re-build wayne enterprises from the ground up, exactly the same.. and do some editing to the east wing.. ( the bat cave ! :-D ) and after seeing this movie 5 times now.. i recalled in the very beginning of TDK, Alfred said, " it will be nice when wayne manor is finished being rebuilt sir, something something, you wont have to sleep in the penthouse any more,"
Wayne Manor. He is goign to rebuild Wayne Manor from the ground up. I don't know if this is what you meant or not.

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Old 07-21-2008, 11:35 PM   #36
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:36 PM   #37
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I didn't miss the monorail at all. What I did miss, however, was the Narrows. Notably Arkham Asylum. I was hoping for a scene at the end where they brought Joker to Arkham.
Ya during that monologue a quick shot of the joker in a orange jump suit in his cell all alone staring into the camera would have been absolutely blissfull and would definately have fit into that whole montage of shots.

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Old 07-21-2008, 11:38 PM   #38
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i think, with all the villans they " put away " during this movie, and that worked with the joker and such, and i think where they are holding 2 face, i think there will be more arkham in the third :-))

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Old 07-21-2008, 11:44 PM   #39
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There both there
the monorail is seen in the big shots of the city and wayne tower is right there in the street fight they just werent as important in this movie as they where in the other

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Old 07-22-2008, 08:42 PM   #40
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at least they mentioned Arkham once or twice.

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Old 07-23-2008, 03:19 AM   #41
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We need a screenshot of the monorail in TDK!

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Old 07-23-2008, 03:31 AM   #42
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Why is everyone so uptight about the monorail? Did it have any signifigance to the story? No. Plus if the Joker had threatened to blow it up...it would have been a plot rehash from the first movie. Leaving subtle hints while progressing with more stories is better than constantly reminding people of something that doesn't help progress anything.

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The monorail probably wasn't in the movie because it wasn't in the script to have any scenes take place on it. Probably for the same reason the Narrows were never mentioned.
The Narrows was mentioned...

Frick do you people not pay attention

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Slightly off topic, but where was the Battersea Power Station? I don't remember seeing it, though I know they filmed there.

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I did notice that Wayne Tower was in a completely different building, and there's no explanation for that because Wayne Tower wasn't destroyed at the end of BB. Hell, they were having a board meeting in it the very next day when Bruce fired Mr. Earle.

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Old 07-23-2008, 07:50 AM   #46
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Why is everyone so uptight about the monorail? Did it have any signifigance to the story? No. Plus if the Joker had threatened to blow it up...it would have been a plot rehash from the first movie. Leaving subtle hints while progressing with more stories is better than constantly reminding people of something that doesn't help progress anything.
I posted that to make the whining stop.

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Old 07-23-2008, 09:46 AM   #47
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If anyone read the virals you will see that Wayne Manor is being rebuilt, Monorail is as well and of course the Batcave will be redesigned too.

The Batmobile will be redesigned I believe unless the Bat-Pod is used again.

In the film, everything is burned so there is nothing left that ties Fox and Rachel to Batman so in my mind, Batman has no equipment left to work with except the Batsuit, gadgets on the utility belt and the Bad-pod.

Truly 'Empire Strikes Back' of the trilogy.

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Old 07-23-2008, 09:25 PM   #48
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This is from the VFXWorld.com article, The Dark Knight: Grounding Batman

"To everyone's satisfaction, many of the Gotham City geometries that had been built for Batman Begins could be reused for The Dark Knight. One exception was the art deco Wayne Tower, which was completely redesigned for the new movie. "Most of what you see in the finished film is actual Chicago," Franklin adds. "We used visual effects sparingly to extend and enhance the location material only when needed, such as when Chris Nolan wanted to sell the scale of Gotham or when it just wasn't possible to get a plate of a location from the angle needed."

All of the CG assets were completely overhauled, remodeled to higher tolerances and then retextured to hold up to the greater scrutiny of IMAX -- and also to the fact that the new movie featured a lot more daylight photography. The only item that was reused without any modification was the Gotham City Monorail System, as it only played in two shots in the far background."

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Old 07-23-2008, 09:53 PM   #49
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The big Wayne building is in the background of the scene with the Batpod vs. Joker. I think you can see it after the 18-wheeler flips.

It's the same building!!

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Old 07-23-2008, 10:16 PM   #50
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I guess it was in the background but i didn't notice it . Luckily it doesn't have much affect on the film by not beeing there. You can just assume it's on the other side of town.

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