Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? - Page 4

chaseter · 05-15-2009, 03:01 PM

Anything with Wade in it was awesome.

Ace of Knaves · 05-15-2009, 03:03 PM

Apart from when he started shooting frickin laser beams out his frickin eyes [/Dr Evil]

chaseter · 05-15-2009, 03:28 PM

That was not Wade so it's all good.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 05-16-2009, 07:41 AM

^The Nightcrawler scene is definately the best action scene in this franchise so far, along with Wolvie vs the soldier in the mansion. Thats been a big dissapointment with X3 and XMO for me, they couldnt top the best action scene's in X2, for me at least.

Juha · 05-16-2009, 08:26 AM

So I guess we can all agree that there's been some great fight scenes in these movies.

But do guys think that in general all these four movies have been lacking in the fight scene department?

I know I was disappointed with the fight scenes in X3. I also think that the fights between Jackman and Schreiber weren't as epic as they should've been.

Although now that I think of it...even though there's been some amazing superhero movies lately, there hasn't been that many memorable fight scenes IMO.

All the Spidey vs Doc Ock fights were great in SM2. Iron Man vs. Iron Monger was pretty good. Batman vs. Ducard was tough as nails. Hmm...what else? Well of course there's been great action scenes like for example Hellboy vs. The Golden Army.

So I guess the fight scenes in the X-men movies are fairing quite nicely when you put them in comparison.

Nevaratoiel · 05-16-2009, 09:18 AM

I'm a Gambit fan, so I voted Wolverine vs Gambit. I think it's best fight scene there is. The fight with Deathstrike was very good too! It's a close second.

Wiseman · 05-16-2009, 09:36 AM

Wait, did you really put Jean vs. Xavier on the list? Does lifting a cripple off his chair with your mind and then turning him into nothing count as a fight?

Adrian89 · 05-16-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Legion

What about Cyclops vs Deathstrike?

It was such a shame that it didn't last! You see him sharing a few punches and then Deathstrike took him out so easily! That was pathethic. He deserved a longer fight and he shouldn't have been taken out, just like that.
Singer gaved Cyclops short screentime in X2 in my oppinion and Ratner completely screwed him in X3.

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Originally Posted by katie_girl09

...I for one can't understand how you would vote for the (in my eyes) cheese-fest that was Phoenix vs. Xavier.

Haha, I can't even understand why adding that to the Poll? It wasn't a fight, it was more like an argue they had and which ended up with Jean having him splattered all over the place!

returntovoid · 05-16-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by T-101

Singer gaved Cyclops short screentime in X2 in my oppinion and Ratner completely screwed him in X3.

Bryan Singer's original script for X3 was going have more screentime for Cyclops.

Here's the description for Singer's X3 script, taken from Wikipedia:

Though Singer, Harris and Dougherty had yet to complete a script, the director has revealed that at the time of his departure they had partially completed a story treatment for the film which would have focused exclusively on Jean Grey's resurrection[6] with the new villain Emma Frost, a role intended for Sigourney Weaver.[7] Frost was an empath manipulating Jean's emotions in the treatment, and like the finished film Magneto desires to control her. Overwhelmed by her powers, Jean makes Cyclops kill her, but her spirit survives and becomes a god-like creature, which Dougherty compared to the star child in A Space Odyssey.[8]

returntovoid · 05-16-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

^The Nightcrawler scene is definately the best action scene in this franchise so far, along with Wolvie vs the soldier in the mansion. Thats been a big dissapointment with X3 and XMO for me, they couldnt top the best action scene's in X2, for me at least.

Agreed, Those action sequences from X2 never get old IMO.

katie_girl09 · 05-16-2009, 10:56 AM

Okay. He has room for Emma Frost, but not Gambit? WTF?!

Majik1387 · 05-16-2009, 11:03 AM

It's not a matter of having room, it's a matter of who fits the story best. And Emma Frost did have a substantial role in the Dark Phoenix storyline which the end to Singer's X2 obviously hinted at for his X-3.

And Gambit was originally in X-3, even got as far as having a guy cast and showing up in the movie trailer, only to have been edited out. I forgot the actor's name, but he was pretty vocal about it on here during the pre-X3 days when the teaser trailer hit. So looked like X3 had no room for him either.

katie_girl09 · 05-16-2009, 11:23 AM

A good writer will know how to fit a character into any story. I did not say that Emma Frost did not have a part in the Phoenix saga, did I?
I just really think that Singer didn't want Gambit in the movies for some reason that he wasn't actually stating. Or if he did have him, he would be a very insignificant side character.

Majik1387 · 05-16-2009, 11:32 AM

A good writer writes a good story regardless of characters fans may want included.
If they fit in, that's great, but a story really shouldn't just be written to include a character.

returntovoid · 05-16-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiseman

Wait, did you really put Jean vs. Xavier on the list? Does lifting a cripple off his chair with your mind and then turning him into nothing count as a fight?

IMO, I would not consider that to be a fight scene.

Majik1387 · 05-16-2009, 11:34 AM

There are such things as mental battles, especially considering both characters are telepathic.

returntovoid · 05-16-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Majik1387

There are such things as mental battles, especially considering both characters are telepathic.

The mental battle would have been more interesting if it was on an astral plane, IMO.

katie_girl09 · 05-16-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Majik1387

A good writer writes a good story regardless of characters fans may want included.
If they fit in, that's great, but a story really shouldn't just be written to include a character.

I still say that it could have been done, especially since it doesn't make a mention of the cure subplot, which took up a lot of time in the actual movie.
Well, I guess we're just not going to see eye to eye about this. Because I personally didn't think thay had to explore Phoenix in X3 at all.

katie_girl09 · 05-16-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by returntovoid

The mental battle would have been more interesting if it was on an astral plane, IMO.

Agreed. Now THAT would have been interesting.

Ace of Knaves · 05-16-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Majik1387

A good writer writes a good story regardless of characters fans may want included.
If they fit in, that's great, but a story really shouldn't just be written to include a character.

Wow!! I think that is the first time me and you have 100% agreed on something.

Producers and directors shouldn't cater SOLEY to the fans. It just spells disaster.

returntovoid · 05-16-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ace of Knaves

Producers and directors shouldn't cater SOLEY to the fans. It just spells disaster.

Same thing happened when Venom was put in Spiderman 3 due to demand by fans.

Ace of Knaves · 05-16-2009, 11:47 AM

Precisely. Fans are fans. They are not movie producers.

Congo Jack · 05-16-2009, 11:53 AM

I haven't seen ORIGINS but I doubt anything in it could top the amazing Wolverine vs. Lady Deathstrike fight from X2.

katie_girl09 · 05-16-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by returntovoid

Same thing happened when Venom was put in Spiderman 3 due to demand by fans.

That was just... disastrous...

Ace of Knaves · 05-16-2009, 11:57 AM

The thing that annoys me about the treatment of Venom is that he could of been a truly brilliant movie villain. To be fair, in the comics he is soooo shallow. But they could of made him great in the movie verse. You develop Brock more, Venom automatically becomes a better villain. It really is as simple as that.

View Poll Results: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise?
Wolverine vs Creed (Bone claws in bar)	3	2.33%
Wolverine vs Blob	0	0%
Sabretooth vs Wraith	0	0%
Wolverine vs Creed (Las Vegas)	2	1.55%
Wolverine vs Gambit	6	4.65%
Wolverine vs Creed (3-mile island/Stryker's facility)	0	0%
Wolverine vs Weapon XI (With a little help from Creed)	22	17.05%
Wolverine vs Sabretooth (Canadian Rockies)	1	0.78%
Wolverine vs Mystique	6	4.65%
Storm vs Toad	3	2.33%
Wolverine vs Sabretooth (Statue Of Liberty)	6	4.65%
Cyclops vs Jean (Alkali Lake, Cyke is mind controlled)	2	1.55%
Wolverine vs Deathstryke	67	51.94%
Wolverine vs Juggernaut	0	0%
Storm vs Callisto	0	0%
Jean/Pheonix vs Xavier	3	2.33%
Storm vs Callisto	0	0%
Juggernaut vs Kitty	1	0.78%
Iceman vs Pyro	7	5.43%
Jean/Pheonix vs Wolverine	0	0%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

05-15-2009, 03:01 PM	#76
chaseter Bland User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 41,456	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? Anything with Wade in it was awesome. __________________ Kid, you're holding up the line of 2 people. You can leave a penny, you can't take a penny. You can leave a penny anytime. You have to spend $10 to take a penny. Store policy. Since when has this been store policy? Uh, since my boss made up the policy. You gonna pay? You're holding up my line of one other person. You can't afford your milk, step aside. What, daddy didn't give you enough milk money? Little baby gonna cry about it? Just step aside. And that is how Uncle Ben dies.

05-15-2009, 03:03 PM	#77
Ace of Knaves Banned User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Riding on the storm... Posts: 31,569	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? Apart from when he started shooting frickin laser beams out his frickin eyes [/Dr Evil]

05-15-2009, 03:28 PM	#78
chaseter Bland User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 41,456	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? That was not Wade so it's all good. __________________ Kid, you're holding up the line of 2 people. You can leave a penny, you can't take a penny. You can leave a penny anytime. You have to spend $10 to take a penny. Store policy. Since when has this been store policy? Uh, since my boss made up the policy. You gonna pay? You're holding up my line of one other person. You can't afford your milk, step aside. What, daddy didn't give you enough milk money? Little baby gonna cry about it? Just step aside. And that is how Uncle Ben dies.

05-16-2009, 07:41 AM	#79
AVEITWITHJAMON Terminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Liverpool, U.K Posts: 21,382	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? ^The Nightcrawler scene is definately the best action scene in this franchise so far, along with Wolvie vs the soldier in the mansion. Thats been a big dissapointment with X3 and XMO for me, they couldnt top the best action scene's in X2, for me at least. __________________ 2013: 1)Django Unchained-9(2)Star Trek Into Darkness-9(3)Iron Man 3-9(4)Evil Dead-8(5)Oblivion-8(6)The Last Stand-7.5(7)Oz: The Great And Powerful-7.5(8)Jack The Giant Slayer-7.5

05-16-2009, 08:26 AM	#80
Juha Maybe I should retire Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Here I Am Posts: 795	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? So I guess we can all agree that there's been some great fight scenes in these movies. But do guys think that in general all these four movies have been lacking in the fight scene department? I know I was disappointed with the fight scenes in X3. I also think that the fights between Jackman and Schreiber weren't as epic as they should've been. Although now that I think of it...even though there's been some amazing superhero movies lately, there hasn't been that many memorable fight scenes IMO. All the Spidey vs Doc Ock fights were great in SM2. Iron Man vs. Iron Monger was pretty good. Batman vs. Ducard was tough as nails. Hmm...what else? Well of course there's been great action scenes like for example Hellboy vs. The Golden Army. So I guess the fight scenes in the X-men movies are fairing quite nicely when you put them in comparison. __________________ Green Lantern 7/10 Thor 8/10 XMFC 9/10 Captain America 9/10 It was a great summer!

05-16-2009, 09:18 AM	#81
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05-16-2009, 09:36 AM	#82
Wiseman Banned User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In A-Rod's house Posts: 8,249	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? Wait, did you really put Jean vs. Xavier on the list? Does lifting a cripple off his chair with your mind and then turning him into nothing count as a fight?

05-16-2009, 10:56 AM	#86
katie_girl09 All kinds of smexy. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 4,635	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? Okay. He has room for Emma Frost, but not Gambit? WTF?!

05-16-2009, 11:03 AM	#87
Majik1387 Casting Extraodinaire ;D Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Theme Park central Posts: 35,847	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? It's not a matter of having room, it's a matter of who fits the story best. And Emma Frost did have a substantial role in the Dark Phoenix storyline which the end to Singer's X2 obviously hinted at for his X-3. And Gambit was originally in X-3, even got as far as having a guy cast and showing up in the movie trailer, only to have been edited out. I forgot the actor's name, but he was pretty vocal about it on here during the pre-X3 days when the teaser trailer hit. So looked like X3 had no room for him either. __________________ Batman Beyond Casting Call - Emily VanCamp is Sharon Carter - Alexa Davalos as Wonder Woman My Top 10 movies of 2012 Avengers - Perks of Being A Wallflower - Pitch Perfect Amazing Spider-Man - Cabin in the Woods - Rock of Ages Ruby Sparks - 21 Jump Street - ParaNorman - Hunger Games MY ART THREAD and my DEVIANT

05-16-2009, 11:23 AM	#88
katie_girl09 All kinds of smexy. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 4,635	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? A good writer will know how to fit a character into any story. I did not say that Emma Frost did not have a part in the Phoenix saga, did I? I just really think that Singer didn't want Gambit in the movies for some reason that he wasn't actually stating. Or if he did have him, he would be a very insignificant side character.

05-16-2009, 11:32 AM	#89
Majik1387 Casting Extraodinaire ;D Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Theme Park central Posts: 35,847	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? A good writer writes a good story regardless of characters fans may want included. If they fit in, that's great, but a story really shouldn't just be written to include a character. __________________ Batman Beyond Casting Call - Emily VanCamp is Sharon Carter - Alexa Davalos as Wonder Woman My Top 10 movies of 2012 Avengers - Perks of Being A Wallflower - Pitch Perfect Amazing Spider-Man - Cabin in the Woods - Rock of Ages Ruby Sparks - 21 Jump Street - ParaNorman - Hunger Games MY ART THREAD and my DEVIANT

05-16-2009, 11:34 AM	#91
Majik1387 Casting Extraodinaire ;D Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Theme Park central Posts: 35,847	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? There are such things as mental battles, especially considering both characters are telepathic. __________________ Batman Beyond Casting Call - Emily VanCamp is Sharon Carter - Alexa Davalos as Wonder Woman My Top 10 movies of 2012 Avengers - Perks of Being A Wallflower - Pitch Perfect Amazing Spider-Man - Cabin in the Woods - Rock of Ages Ruby Sparks - 21 Jump Street - ParaNorman - Hunger Games MY ART THREAD and my DEVIANT

05-16-2009, 11:47 AM	#97
Ace of Knaves Banned User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Riding on the storm... Posts: 31,569	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? Precisely. Fans are fans. They are not movie producers.

05-16-2009, 11:53 AM	#98
Congo Jack Chad Sexington Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 869	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? I haven't seen ORIGINS but I doubt anything in it could top the amazing Wolverine vs. Lady Deathstrike fight from X2. __________________ Looks like a guy who you think is called "Hermano" is going to get his ass kicked.

05-16-2009, 11:57 AM	#100
Ace of Knaves Banned User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Riding on the storm... Posts: 31,569	Re: Best one vs one fight in the X-Franchise? The thing that annoys me about the treatment of Venom is that he could of been a truly brilliant movie villain. To be fair, in the comics he is soooo shallow. But they could of made him great in the movie verse. You develop Brock more, Venom automatically becomes a better villain. It really is as simple as that.

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