Hulk vs Thor

[TheCorpulent1]

Yep, gotta go with Hulk vs. Thor's design. The classic Kirby look works well in animation.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Yep, gotta go with Hulk vs. Thor's design. The classic Kirby look works well in animation.

for me the definitive thor will always be simonsons, you look at kirby's asgard for instance and it looks like some place george jetson would live.
I give props to jack but when I think of thor, of where he lives, who he interacts with, who his enemies are I picture simonson's drawings.

[TheCorpulent1]

I think of a lot of different artists' interpretations for various bits of Thor's world. I think of Simonson's Asgard, Coipel's Asgardians, Romita Jr.'s Hela, etc.

[Panthro]

I don't know... I think Ultimate Avengers did a better job of giving Thor proper muscle definition than the Kirbyesque design of Hulk Vs.

[TheCorpulent1]

I suppose, but I'm going by the total package. I'd take a thinner Thor over an Ultimate Thor any day.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

I think of a lot of different artists' interpretations for various bits of Thor's world. I think of Simonson's Asgard, Coipel's Asgardians, Romita Jr.'s Hela, etc.

I love coipel's castles but I still perfer simonson's asgard because it looks like vikings would live there. the only thing I think is better than simomson's anything is coipel's new costume and coipel's loki (better boobs lol!).

when they make the movie they could do far worse than make simonson a consultant to the art director.

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think Simonson's costumes would ever work on film. They're great, but the size of some of those helmets is just impractical.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

I don't think Simonson's costumes would ever work on film. They're great, but the size of some of those helmets is just impractical.

I kind of agree with that, but it is very 'viking'. A long as they look like vikings I'm not too bothered. coipel's hiemdal looks fantasic as did bor.

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I hope the movie preserves more of a viking look than the comics often do. It'd go a long way toward making the film stand out against its epic fantasy brethren, since movie designers tend to favor more medieval European looks for most epic fantasies.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Yeah, I hope the movie preserves more of a viking look than the comics often do. It'd go a long way toward making the film stand out against its epic fantasy brethren, since movie designers tend to favor more medieval European looks for most epic fantasies.

its win win as far as I'm concerned if keneth goes down the 'marvel' road with thor I'm happy and if he is more ridgid with norse mythology I'm happy. the one thing I want a near perfect reproduction is thor's hammer. I want it to look exactly like 616 canon hammer. that hammer is iconic (amongst comic fans).

[TheCorpulent1]

It'd be nice, but I get the feeling we may have to deal with some cosmetic changes to the hammer. The hammer and the costume are things I'm trying to stay as open-minded as possible about, because if you go in expecting them to completely adhere to the 616 comics in those areas, you're almost certainly going to be disappointed.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

It'd be nice, but I get the feeling we may have to deal with some cosmetic changes to the hammer. The hammer and the costume are things I'm trying to stay as open-minded as possible about, because if you go in expecting them to completely adhere to the 616 comics in those areas, you're almost certainly going to be disappointed.

not bothered about them changing thor's outfit at all, thor's outfit isn't like spidey's or superman's totally iconic so they can take huge liberties all I want is

a) a red cap
b) a least 2 silver disks on his chest these can double as cape fasteners
c) a silver helmet with wings on the sides

other than that they can go buck wild. I'll be disappointed if they can the hammer though. the only change I would personally make to the is is change the 'whoever...' text on the side to norse runes.

[Panthro]

So, how about that Amora the Enchantress? Poor girl never even got a thank you for giving Thor the literal kiss of life. I guess that's what she gets for siding with Loki.

I listened to the audio commentary a while ago, I remember they kept joking around about what an idiot Thor was to choose Sif over Amora. I guess Thor prefers brunettes.

[TheCorpulent1]

Or chicks that actually love him and aren't as likely to stab him in the back when they're bored.

[Rich Santoro]

... and chicks with the warrior spirit... nobility, and as Corpulent alluded, honor, integrity and trustworthiness.

[spider-neil]

I had no idea the enchantress was freya, i.e. the ones who gave the gods their immortality by giving them golden apples every day.

[TheCorpulent1]

Idunn, actually. And she wasn't until that Ages of Thunder retcon.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Idunn, actually. And she wasn't until that Ages of Thunder retcon.

sorry, yes idunn although she is also known as freya as well. You're correct in that AoT is where I got that information. makes sense as freya and idunn were supposed to be the most beautiful women in all of asgard in norse myth.

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, right, Idunn and Freya were interchangeable in AoT for some reason. I don't think that was the case in the myths.

[Spike_x1]

I was never really in to Thor before seeing Hulk Vs., but I've got to say that after I saw it, I couldn't buy Avengers: Disassembled: Thor and the first volume of the Straczynski relaunch fast enough.

Having said that, I now have a basis to agree with you guys that the fight should been far less one-sided. Still, the movie was pretty darn entertaining from a newbie's perspective. Yeah, the fight was really lopsided (I'm going to excuse it by assuming that the writers were the kind of Hulk fans who think that anger is infinite, so without Banner inside and regulating Hulk's anger/strength, it just made his strength infinite. Whatever), but the movie wholly succeeded in immersing me in the world of Asgard and it's characters. I loved the setting and all of the actors, and they're all almost exactly the voices that I envision the characters having when I read them in the comic. The only exceptions to that are Fred Tatasciore's Hulk and Bryce Johnson's Bruce Banner. As good as they are, Neal McDonough and Lou Ferrigno from the 90s cartoon (and the live action movie in Lou's case) are my fav voices for Banner and Hulk.

[Panthro]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

Or chicks that actually love him and aren't as likely to stab him in the back when they're bored.

So it's been established that Amora does not really love Thor, correct? Please forgive my ignorance, I'm still training to be a Thor fan (still on Walt Simonson's Volume 2).

Is the Ages of Thunder retcon any good?

[TheCorpulent1]

It anchors the Enchantress in the myths. I don't think that was particularly necessary, but it's done in a decent way. Although, you'd think that if Amora = Idunn, she would withhold the golden apples from the other gods a bit more often, since she's kind of a b****.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

It anchors the Enchantress in the myths. I don't think that was particularly necessary, but it's done in a decent way. Although, you'd think that if Amora = Idunn, she would withhold the golden apples from the other gods a bit more often, since she's kind of a b****.

she's ruled by odin and when he tells you to do something you do it.

[TheCorpulent1]

I suppose. She was never quite as much of an outsider as Loki, although she wasn't afraid to cross Odin and side with Loki if she thought she had a chance of winning.

[Panthro]

Originally Posted by TheCorpulent1

It anchors the Enchantress in the myths. I don't think that was particularly necessary, but it's done in a decent way. Although, you'd think that if Amora = Idunn, she would withhold the golden apples from the other gods a bit more often, since she's kind of a b****.

Hmm. Interesting.

So would you say that Amora the Enchantress qualifies as a "stalker" towards Thor?