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65 | 16.37% |
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83 | 20.91% |
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140 | 35.26% |
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44 | 11.08% |
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65 | 16.37% |
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#51 |
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How was Fallen and what did he do?
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LOL Couldn't help but point out that your post reminded me of Arnold in Kindergarten Cop. "Who is your daddy and what does he do?"
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My only question is "How much of this makes sense?" In the first film, there were a lot of convenient plot twist, like the spiel with Megatron's navigational system and how the All Spark worked, and some weird things like the Bat/Trans-Signal and- again- how the All Spark worked. Is it more of the same or does this movie go for less MacGuffins?
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Wow.... that was pretty damn bad. Every single comment I overheard after the showing was negative.
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Who ever has seen the film, could you please answer these questions posed by Devin over at CHUD. I kind of find them hilarious:
- What/who is the Fallen getting revenge on? - Why can only Optimus Prime kill The Fallen (since he's a Prime as well) but three Decepticons can kill Optimus? - Why did the Fallen wait 3000 years to find the Matrix of Leadership, which was about three miles from the sun destroying machine? - How does Jetfire open the back door of the Smithsonian and end up in California? How does Jetfire teleport Sam, Mikaela, the new roommate, John Turturro and Wheelie but have Bumblebee and the Twins show up in Egypt with them? Since when could the Transformers teleport at will? |
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1.)The fallen is getting revenge on the other primes, who turned against him when he turned bad. 2.)Bad writing I guess. 3.)He needed the allspark to find it. 4.) A.It doesn't say where they are. B.The twins, wheelie and bumblebee are all with Sam etc at the museum. C.Since this film apparently. |
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Just got out of the film for a second time, better second time around.
![]() Fallen was pretty awesome. He came to earth 100's of years ago and tried to wipe out the human race for the sun. Primes would use a machine to drain suns energy into energon. But only planets with no life so the sun missing would not kill anyone. The Fallen betrayed his brothers when he tried to take the suns energy. Quote:
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What, then, were the biggest issues you noticed?
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Not exactly sure what you mean.
He did a bit of fighting, sat in his big unexplained base on one of Saturn's moons, talked about his revenge, then did some more fighting. Nothing special really. |
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Jus got back from seeing it (in the UK). I gotta say, I loved it.
I'm not taking a swipe at anyone, but you've gotta realise, you've got film with big robots....with Michael Bay directing....was anyone seriously hoping or expecting a film which was gonna win an Oscar or other award for 'Best Actor' or 'Best Director'?? A proper 'film-film'? It does what it's designed to do. Rake in money. Personally, I loved it. Don't really have any gripes. Maybe Wheelie was a bit pants....but thats it. Loved the Twins. The whole "I will bust your face..." was brilliant. Couldn't see any major plotholes that you'd lose sleep over. Only thing I didn't quite 'get', is they must have duplicated the Constructicons, or each Constructicon had 2 variations. In the last part with Devastator, he's clearly in one piece destroying stuff, while you see Long Haul, Scrapper etc in the fight with Sam, Mikaela, Lennox etc. Odd... But yeh, as far as Summer blockbusters go, and as far as a sequel, to me it did what it should. Took characters we knew, developed them a bit more, gave us some new characters, and improved on the first. 9/10. |
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I thought he was in stasis lock. What the hell was he doing all these thousands of years in Saturn's moon? Masturbating?
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Okay, alot of things just seemed a bit pointless and underexplained.
A couple huge plot holes though; The primes supposidly sacrificed their lives to form a casing around the matrix so the fallen could never get it. Well, bumblebee breaks through that casing with ease, rendering it pointless. Also, the sun destroying machine is built into the pyramid, a structure which has been meticulously excavated for decades. |
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Shivs,
Thanks for answering. As far as the Fallen's revenge goes, Bay basically said a while ago that the title has a double meaning...so I find it hilarious that Devin couldn't figure that out. As for teleportation, the original cartoon had a few Transformers that in fact teleported, so that's not a big deal to me anyway. |
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Growing babies it would seem, so... possibly.
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True.
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I only have two questions
![]() 1. Is there still a bunch of needless cheesy kid humor? 2. How are the female bots? Is it really bad?
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Thanks for your answers mate!
So really now... is the plot so incredibly stupid? And another thing, why did the Fallen stay in Saturn's moon for all this time? How did it serve his purpose, why didnt he wake up Megatron or search for the allspark himself? |
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2. Not featured much. Speak once, obviously female, but no character development. |
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Not sure. He seemed to liven up once he "sensed" Prime had died. Maybe he was afraid.
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Another one popped into my head:
How are the new Autobots explained? Where do they come from? Cyberton is supposedly Decepticon territory. Where they taking refuge among the stars and heard Prime's call? Did they land as pods? |
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Thanks man. Does the humor ruin some moments in the movie? And is it really any darker?
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