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Old 06-19-2009, 06:10 PM   #201
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But he is the one in charge.

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Old 06-19-2009, 06:14 PM   #202
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Bay isn't known for gripping plots and developed characters. He and others brain storm ideas and the writers write the script. So, Bay directs what he is given. If Bay was given an Oscar worthy script, he is going to direct it the same as if he is given a mediocre script. He is a director, not a writer.

Bay answers to studio heads. Bay could have the best idea ever and it gets shot down by studio execs so he is not fully in charge. He answers to people.

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Old 06-19-2009, 06:18 PM   #203
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I'm not a Bay-hater or anything, but, considering we do get a Bay-less Transformers 3, I'd be very exciting for the experience, just to see how it would go.

Spiderman 3.

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Old 06-19-2009, 06:43 PM   #204
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Now that Bay is gone, all we need is Laboof and Tranny Fox to die
Bay is NOT LEAVING.
He is just TAKING A BREAK. He ALREADY denied the claims he's leaving, so WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING HE IS LEAVING!?!?

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Old 06-20-2009, 12:16 AM   #205
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Bay's still a-go!!!!!

I would hate a Bay-less Transformers 3.


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Old 06-20-2009, 12:44 AM   #206
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huh? If you're talking about me abbreviating words..it's a message board, and i'm lazy..i sometimes dont like spelling out every single word....
Well, good luck getting anyone to take you seriously.






I hate when people dont spell words out. It pisses me off so much....

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Old 06-20-2009, 09:34 AM   #207
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Well, good luck getting anyone to take you seriously.






I hate when people dont spell words out. It pisses me off so much....
ha ha you're like a moth 2 a flame..and does "serious" on an internet board really exist together???


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Old 06-20-2009, 11:12 AM   #208
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Spiderman 3.
More like X-Men: The Last Stand

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Old 06-20-2009, 11:37 AM   #209
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More like X-Men: The Last Stand
More like Batman & Robin.

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Old 06-20-2009, 11:41 AM   #210
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Bay is NOT LEAVING.
He is just TAKING A BREAK. He ALREADY denied the claims he's leaving, so WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING HE IS LEAVING!?!?
And the award for the most obnoxious post goes to........you!!!

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Old 06-20-2009, 12:22 PM   #211
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More like Batman & Robin.
Nah, Batman & Robin was the same director as Batman Forever, so it was the next step in a downward spiral. X-Men: The Last Stand is what happens when you lose your director, and the studio takes over to ensure that the continuity is maintained at the expense of creative freedom, which is why you can only get guys like Brett Ratner to do it. The same thin would be at risk of happening if someone were to take over for Bay in TF3. Paramount knows that Bay has a winning formula, and if he were out of the picture they'd be desperate to maintain momentum. So, they'd probably have to hire someone who isn't fussy about auteurism and is willing to emulate Bay's style, and we'd probably end up with another X3.

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Old 06-20-2009, 12:43 PM   #212
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Bay isn't known for gripping plots and developed characters. He and others brain storm ideas and the writers write the script. So, Bay directs what he is given. If Bay was given an Oscar worthy script, he is going to direct it the same as if he is given a mediocre script. He is a director, not a writer.

Bay answers to studio heads. Bay could have the best idea ever and it gets shot down by studio execs so he is not fully in charge. He answers to people.
You know if i hadn't read an old article about The Island , i would've thought this to be true.
However i have a hard time believing that Bay would leave an Oscar worthy script as it was.

The original script for The Island , according to Bay , was a very dense SCI-FI movie with lots ofinteresting themes. The first thing he did was remove all those things and insert all the typical Bay-ism's.

Like you said , Bay brainstorms with other writers about ideas . It's not like he just gets a script and then start to shoot hit. He inserts his own little ideas.


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And why is this thread not closed . Bay has already said that he'll return for the sequel , he just wants to take some time off.

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Old 06-20-2009, 01:06 PM   #213
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I think that the problem with the Island was that the marketing campaign was garbage. They gave the entire friggin' movie away! They should have done like in I, Robot and misdirected the audience in the trailers. The audience should have gone in thinking that it was a movie about a post apocalyptic world where survivors are being rounded up THX style and experimented on, and let the whole clone thing be a twist. The movie itself was not bad, but it would have been way better had all the surprises not been sucked out of it before the movie even starts.

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Old 06-20-2009, 01:14 PM   #214
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Bay is awesome.

'Nuff said.

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Old 06-20-2009, 02:38 PM   #215
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Bay is awesome.

'Nuff said.
Yeah... sometimes a guy just wants to see **** being blown up... and I mean... who ya gonna call?

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Old 06-20-2009, 02:51 PM   #216
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Bay is not the greatest director ever but he knows how to do action movies. He does not know how to do character/plot movies. And, very few directors can do both.

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Old 06-20-2009, 03:41 PM   #217
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ha ha you're like a moth 2 a flame..and does "serious" on an internet board really exist together???
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TO a flame.

Please try to be intelligent enough to spell out words and not succumb to using "text" language.

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Old 06-20-2009, 04:07 PM   #218
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Bay is not the greatest director ever but he knows how to do action movies. He does not know how to do character/plot movies. And, very few directors can do both.
he's never really tried

even in this false story, it's said that he sees the smaller character movies as an entirely different type of film that he hasn't tired

as opposed to everyone and their mother believing he tries it on every film and fails

I personally can't wait until this mystery film bay makes next, just to finally prove a point

(point being, everything bay does has been a decision mostly on his part, and when he decides to make a film of substance, the world of "critics" will finally have to grasp the reality of the situation)

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Old 06-20-2009, 11:08 PM   #219
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Well, Marvin, I anxiously await to see

a Michael Bay movie where he proves all the critics "wrong"


as opposed to this "false story" which is typical Michael Bay shallowness and exploitation

You let me know when he "proves a point" with that "mystery film"



OK?



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Old 06-20-2009, 11:56 PM   #220
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you mean when he's not releasing a film on pretty much the fourth of july starring two big comedy acts as buddy cops in a buddy cop movie?

or the film about a series of collectible characters that no adult over the age of 9 has any interest in buying and then proceeding to play with

perhaps a film with less than budget so big that the studio demands it have a mass enough appeal to make it's budget back in oh say 5 days

a movie he doesn't refer to as "summer...fun"

sure

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it's not so much about proving them wrong, it's about exploiting their hypocrisy
he's making a type of movie and it's reviewed as if it's a failure of a "better" movie

it's like calling a fruit loops commercial short
or a comedy devoid of real human drama(happy gilmore was great)

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Old 06-21-2009, 04:10 AM   #221
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Bay is not the greatest director ever but he knows how to do action movies. He does not know how to do character/plot movies. And, very few directors can do both.
Spielberg. Cameron. Raimi. Jackson. Singer. Tarantino. Nolan. Greengrass. Abrams. Scott (either of them). Whedon. Mann.

I could honestly go on and on.

Transformers 2 shows that Bay has got nothing else to give to the franchise. Transformers 2 isn't better than the first by any means. It's just more of everything, both good and bad.

I dare not think what the third film would be like under Bay, Orci and Kurtzman's riegn. Giant, exploding, transforming penis jokes?

I'd love to see a new creative team get hold of the franchise and do something fresh with it.

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Old 06-21-2009, 04:28 AM   #222
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I'd love to see a new creative team get hold of the franchise and do something fresh with it.
Just wait 15 years until we get the reboot.

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Old 06-21-2009, 07:34 AM   #223
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Spielberg. Cameron. Raimi. Jackson. Singer. Tarantino. Nolan. Greengrass. Abrams. Scott (either of them). Whedon. Mann.
I would have to disagree about Tarantino, although I know my opinion of his movies is not a very popular one...

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Old 06-21-2009, 08:02 AM   #224
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i dont like mr bay as a person and partly as a director but i must admit after seeinf revenge of the fallen i think he should stay on and finish the series

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Just wait 15 years until we get the reboot.
No way! The reboot must come in time for the 30th anniversary.

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