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Old 06-30-2009, 01:15 AM   #426
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Punisher War Zone is awesome. Its all exploding heads.

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Old 06-30-2009, 09:43 PM   #427
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could be good for the series or bad, though.

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Old 06-30-2009, 10:10 PM   #428
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well considering the movie is breaking all kinds of numbers, it will be a tough act to follow.

i don't see anyoneelse picking it up other than MB.

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Old 06-30-2009, 10:25 PM   #429
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The Harry Potter movies benefited from switching directors. The last two made more than the second one.

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Old 06-30-2009, 10:41 PM   #430
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They're not gonna risk anything by switching directors. Bay is good at what he does, and what he does isn't very nice. But it makes the pesos.

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Old 07-01-2009, 12:23 PM   #431
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Now the 3rd has even more chances to turn to a flop.

Brett RATner anyone?

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Old 07-01-2009, 12:25 PM   #432
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Noo! Please. Don't let Brett RaTner touch T3.

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Old 07-01-2009, 06:37 PM   #433
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Id like to see a new director. Im willing to risk some of the action for a better story and less sexual jokes

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Old 07-01-2009, 06:38 PM   #434
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This is interesting. The stigma with Bay is the explosions and plot thing (which is ******** in it's own right). Now we get to see all the fanboys eat they're words when theres fewer explosions sacrificed for the sake of building an intricate plot in a movie based on living robots from outer space who turn into human vesicles.

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Old 07-01-2009, 06:46 PM   #435
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Id like to see a new director. Im willing to risk some of the action for a better story and less sexual jokes
how much did you enjoy the incredible hulk last year

I hope alot because the general audience found it to be a bit of a dud.

a bayless TF would surely be just as big a dud, the concept isn't anything special
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Old 07-01-2009, 07:51 PM   #436
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how much did you enjoy the incredible hulk last year

I hope alot because the general audience found it to be a bit of a dud.

a bayless TF would surely be just as big a dud, the concept isn't anything special
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i like the incredible hulk..but i see what you're saying..maybe the general public like brainless movies....if that's the case...

not me...i want more with my explosions....

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Old 07-01-2009, 07:57 PM   #437
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I liked it too

but if bay did it, it would have been huge

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Old 07-01-2009, 08:04 PM   #438
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Bay should get praise where deserved and let me just note that the main battle sequences in ROTF (Shanghai, Forrest, and Jet Prime vs Fallen) were fantastically choreographed especially the forrest fight.

Not all directors would be able to execute this. McG had giant robots in Terminator: Salvation yet that didn't excite a single bone in my body.

I want Bay to finish his trilogy. With a better script Bay can make a final "Transformers" film thats on par with first or even better. I truly believe the writers strike crippled the screenplay for ROTF heavily.

No offense to Bay's writing but he contributed some his ideas and even wrote some of the plot points. Orci and Kurtzman also didn't do to great either with the exception of setting up the battle sequences to an extent.

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Old 07-01-2009, 08:37 PM   #439
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the bumblebee fight was my favorite

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Old 07-01-2009, 09:27 PM   #440
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Bay should get praise where deserved and let me just note that the main battle sequences in ROTF (Shanghai, Forrest, and Jet Prime vs Fallen) were fantastically choreographed especially the forrest fight.

Not all directors would be able to execute this. McG had giant robots in Terminator: Salvation yet that didn't excite a single bone in my body.

I want Bay to finish his trilogy. With a better script Bay can make a final "Transformers" film thats on par with first or even better. I truly believe the writers strike crippled the screenplay for ROTF heavily.

No offense to Bay's writing but he contributed some his ideas and even wrote some of the plot points. Orci and Kurtzman also didn't do to great either with the exception of setting up the battle sequences to an extent.
i agree with everything except this. i dont think there was anything different with that script. it's not like the first one was macbeth. they are both pretty bad, but that was kinda the point. not meant to be anything more than what it was. I don't think the screenplay got "hurt". it was was it was supposed to be.

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The story in ROTF was definitely worse that the first in terms of narrative & pacing. There was also an over saturation of comedy (usually hit or miss).

The first films script wasn't gold but it was structured in a much better way than the script for ROTF was.

Not only that but the already simplistic dialogue for the humans was lowered a notch as well. I mean in one sentence Sam uses the word "head" almost consecutively to explain that Megatron was trying to get the ancient Cybertronian language from his brain.

Thats just one example out of many. The plot itself wasn't bad but the manner in which it was structured largely caused ROTF to drag severely throughout parts. I mean during my first viewing I was lethargic by the time Jet Prime came onto the screen.

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Michael Bay doesn't care what the critics think, Bay is 'unimpressed'



Despite receiving a critical drubbing, "Transformer: Revenge of the Fallen" soared to box office success over the weekend. While director Michael Bay is no stranger to hatred from the critics, the LA Times reports that Bay was not impressed with their lambasting this time.

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I honestly can't see anyone else doing the kind of action scenes that he does. I still don't know how he can pull of all of that. The action is insane.

Maybe he could direct only the action scenes, leaving the development of the story for some talented director.

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Old 07-01-2009, 10:32 PM   #444
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most of his reviews are personal, I would love to see a review bay a critic that knows nothing of bay and thus doesn't have a point to make outside of the film itself

it's funny cause he used to care about critics but it seems now that he cares more about the audience

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I honestly can't see anyone else doing the kind of action scenes that he does. I still don't know how he can pull of all of that. The action is insane.

Maybe he could direct only the action scenes, leaving the development of the story for some talented director.
or maybe he can direct a script that has a well developed story for a change

that would be just as good

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or maybe he can direct a script that has a well developed story for a change

that would be just as good
I don't think the problem is the story, it's the direction.

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Old 07-01-2009, 10:43 PM   #447
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So, Michael Bay recently said he'll return for the 3rd installment. But since TF2 brought the level of crappiness below my expectation, let's boycott this p.o.s. and say to Michale Bay:
"F**k away!"
I say keep Bay!

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I don't think the problem is the story, it's the direction.
most every review attacks the thin plot and lack of story

even the audience that loved the movie would probably agree that the story is weak

as for his direction(action and laughs) layer that on a good story and it's win win.


I think it's interesting that he's becoming a house hold name

I honestly think the average audience member would be for the idea of a michael bay superman
(i know better tho)

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most every review attacks the thin plot and lack of story

even the audience that loved the movie would probably agree that the story is weak

as for his direction(action and laughs) layer that on a good story and it's win win.


I think it's interesting that he's becoming a house hold name

I honestly think the average audience member would be for the idea of a michael bay superman
(i know better tho)
It's definitely the story. He's often not very good with actors either. He's a technical director through and through.

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most every review attacks the thin plot and lack of story

even the audience that loved the movie would probably agree that the story is weak

as for his direction(action and laughs) layer that on a good story and it's win win.


I think it's interesting that he's becoming a house hold name

I honestly think the average audience member would be for the idea of a michael bay superman
(i know better tho)
I know. I'm talking about the story on the paper. I don't doubt that it is good. But when directed to the big screen...not anymore.

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