The Official Kevin Spacey As Lex Luthor Thread

[Zephyr Alexian]

Why is Kevin Spacey Lex Luthor and why is Lex Luthor in a Superman film AGAIN?!?!?! Please say that it's a cameo. . .

Arrrggghhh, does Warner Bros. even get the character? There are so many dimensions that are left unexplored because of the same rehashed arcs.

Then need to move beyond the same terribly constructed character arcs that have hampered Superman's ability to be a consistently great franchise. Seriously, the Man of Steel needs to be challenged physically and psychologically. LEX CAN'T DO THIS!!! AT LEAST THE S***TY LEX THAT WE KEEP SEEING ONSCREEN!!!<definitely not Gene Hackman's fault. He's an amazing actor. Spacey's a good performer also, but he's at the mercy of the direction. . . or. . . lack. . . of . . . it.>

When will they get it right? When will I see a Superman film that is complete and exemplifies why I like the character?

[Super Kal]

well, it makes no difference anyways... WB themsevles said that they're re-introducing Superman, so anything else that says otherwise is just leading people astray.

Warner Brothers is the ones that makes the decisions, not Kevin Spacey.

[Double Down]

I don't think a "darker" reboot is going to give you what you want.

[Super Kal]

let's just wait and see, shall we...

[COMPO]

i think Spacey did a good Luthor he was darker and more ruthless if they give him LexCorp I reckon he'd be even better

[kalelkilla]

There is no reason to believe that what he said has to do with a Superman Returns sequel. That is not a confirmation. He is probably in the dark as much as we are. Kevin is a great actor and can pretty much do whatever they tell him to do. Like Routh I'm afraid his lousy Luthor had much more to do with the script and the story than him. It wasn't his fault. To all of us, Luthor isn't supposed to be funny...at all. He is the devil in the flesh. There is no room for camp. If Kevin is directed properly...he will give you what you want...

[Zephyr Alexian]

Originally Posted by Super Kal

well, it makes no difference anyways... WB themsevles said that they're re-introducing Superman, so anything else that says otherwise is just leading people astray.

Warner Brothers is the ones that makes the decisions, not Kevin Spacey.

I really hope that you are right. I also hope Routh stays because I now look at him and think Superman, but Spacey should go imho. *wastebin*

Originally Posted by COMPO

i think Spacey did a good Luthor he was darker and more ruthless if they give him LexCorp I reckon he'd be even better.

If he had been introduced as a lethal, blood thristy corporate tycoon who manipulated public interest and laws to his own personal benefit, then yeah, THAT Lex could work. WB didn't get that, or rather Singer thought we wanted to see a small time swindler/rehashed MO/nostalgia over a new incarnation.

Then again, Jeff Robinov claimed that Superman should be dark. I'm sorry, but changing Kal'el's 'grass roots' due to the success of TDK doesn't seem like the way to go.

Unless they bring Doomsday *geekgasms*

Braniac would work also. . . . maybe have Braniac create Doomsday with Kryptonian technology to spite Kal'el once defeated?!?!?! Yeah, it's a complete 180 from the lore, but if Smallville can do it. . . . . . .

All in all, *fingers crossed* for the success of Superman on the Silver Screen.

[Double Down]

I wouldn't say there is no reason to believe it. I'm not saying it means anything, but it doesn't necessarily mean nothing, either. And Spacey probably knows more about what is going on than we do.

[Cosmic]

Outside of comic film fandom, the reboot announcement wasn't exactly headline news...it's entirely possible that this article was prepared some time ago, and the writer just naturally assumed that the SR sequel was still on the way.

[Double Down]

That's not impossible.

[NeoRanger]

Are we still talking about this? There is no news here. According to the article, the very same article that these "respectable" news sites have linked to, Spacey mentions neither Lex Luthor and Superman Returns, nor a sequel. Only the writer makes mention of a sequel, in one single line and it's fairly obvious that he didn't know WB's plan to start over.

Unless he has some super-informed inside source that nobody else has and he's that big of an idiot that he let slip a news item itself in a completely random interview with Spacey about theater and TV.

[Abadleon]

Did the WB guy say that they were going to make a reboot? Did he say that Singer, Routh or Spacey would not return to make another Superman movie? Because maybe they just want to make a SR sequel with a darker tone/screenplay. If I remember well, SR made more money than BB, the problem was that they had wasted a lot of money to make the movie even before than Bryan Singer was chosen as director, and the movie didn't earn as much money as they hoped. But I think that making a reboot would cost a lot more money to WB than a sequel, they would have to recast, get a new director, new writers, reinvent everything and probably pay to all the SR people (cast, director...) who had a contract for sequels. They would be wasting a lot of money again like they did with Tim Burton, Kevin Smith, etc... It would be easier to use the SR people with different writers, they could re-use a lot of things of SR (sets, designs, cast...), so the movie could be cheaper than SR, because they wouldn't have wasted almost 100 millions before starting the production like they did with SR. With a better screenplay that was a little darker and less focused on the Donner-verse, making a darker/not so campy Luthor, who is the Lexcorp guy. a harder Superman, a powerful villain like Brainiac or Doomsday, more action/less comedy-romance... Bryan Singer is not a bad director and he probably knows perfectly what he did wrong in SR, he could make some kind of reboot with the same people, the same way SR was some kind of sequel of the Donner movie but wasn't officially a sequel, he could make a SR sequel that had a different tone that was almost like a reboot. It has been done in the Bond films, were many movies had the same characters but were not a direct sequel of the previous film following with the same storyline and tone, it was just another Bond movie. I don't know if I am explaining it very well but I guess you know what I mean.

[Sawyer]

Originally Posted by NotFadeAway

Real Estate Lex sucks

I couldnt agree more.

[Venom'sDad]

Personally, I hope it's not true. I was really looking forward to modern retelling of the origin story, that for once would set up future villains like Dooms, Brains, Zod, and others. Maybe get a real look at life on Krypton in the first 20-30 minutes of the film. Besides, if they are going to continue with this Donner version of Lex, I prefer not seeing it. I'll wait for it to come on HBO or Starz.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by JamalYIgle

According to the Independenthttp://www.independent.co.uk/arts-en...en-948383.html Spacey will be reprising his role as Lex Luthor in a sequel, not a Reboot of Superman Returns:

You're really reaching Jamal, ol'buddy. I mean, really, what are you going to believe? A tabloid or the president of Warners? Its time to let go, kiddies.

[TheScarecrow]

Hmmm...not sure if this is good or bad...

http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00018809.html

[NeoRanger]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=312689

[Showtime]

Thanks Neo.

[Showtime]

The whole article makes no sense. If they are rebooting the franchise, there is no Spacey.

[mclay18]

Originally Posted by Showtime

The whole article makes no sense. If they are rebooting the franchise, there is no Spacey.

Me too.

Plus you have to add in the IESB scoop at the Watchmen party, where the WB executive said nothing about a Supes reboot but about the stalled progress of the SR sequel. (Then again Robert may be "misinformed" again.)

I don't think I can believe one or the other until Warners issues out a press release, should they ever do a DC Comic superhero film lineup announcement confirming/denying a SR sequel or reboot. The Robinov statement in WSJ just isn't convincing me.

[Keyser Soze]

Originally Posted by Showtime

The whole article makes no sense. If they are rebooting the franchise, there is no Spacey.

To play devil's advocate for a moment, even after they rebooted the Bond franchise, Judi Dench stuck around as M, even if it did create some continuity black-holes.

Kevin Spacey is a great actor, and was perfect casting for Luthor. It was merely in the execution, how Lex was handled in "Superman Returns", that was flawed. If they are going for a darker, less campy Luthor, Spacey is still a great candidate for the role.

[terry78]

I disagree with "Luthor isn't funny" thing. He is a funny character, but mostly darkly humorous, or if he's making a wry comment. Now when Superman is getting the better of him,that's when he should literally make you uneasy.

[Double Down]

Check out the cover for this brand new comic book series:



Lex Luthor looks pretty familiar.

[Christmas]

that art is amazing.... and yes that does resemble that promo shot of spacey from 06.

[Double Down]

Originally Posted by Christmas

that art is amazing.... and yes that does resemble that promo shot of spacey from 06.

I highly recommend getting that book. The art alone would be worth it, but it's also written by James Robinson.