Will you interpret the next \S/ film as a reboot or prequel?

[\S/JcDc\S/]

Conversations like this make me believe the execs see an origin as too much confusion to pull off sooner than later

[Timstuff]

Doing a reboot is pretty pointless if they're not going to get a new actor to play Superman.

[Webhead2006]

Well as of right now we dont even know what is ever going to come about with the next film and like folks have said if there isnt a film by 2013 and the wb president that likes routh leaves post, that pretty much kills routh's chances on returning even for a reboot. But then there is also the director who i would think would want to first look at other folks he thinks will suit his(studio's film) first before looking at him again.

[Zor-El]

Originally Posted by lujho

A reboot origin with Routh makes about as much sense as a Superman movie with Welling that completely ignores Smallville.

If you use routh you HAVE to keep SR in continuity... you either have to have it be a prequel or a sequel.

I agree. I think a reboot would need to sever all ties. Heck, even when you DO sever all ties to previous films in a reboot-- people still get confused. I knew a bunch of people back in 2005 who thought Batman Begins was a prequel to Batman (1989).

I felt the same way all the way back when Ratner or McG (whoever was attached to the film at the time... it's all a blur ) suggested their film would be separate from the Reeve movies, but still occasionally reference the John Williams theme. Reboots are meant to take your mind off the previous franchise. Anything that brings you back to a different incarnation would just be counter-productive.

[Webhead2006]

I totally agree there zor-el

[nintendo nerd]

Originally Posted by FaT_tONle

My bad on the grammar... it's MORE WORSE because SR was a God awful movie and you don't make prequels to God awful/underperforming films... and SR definitely fits one of those bills. That's the simplest way one can put it. Add the fact that Donner's films were already prequels...

I'm from Mexico and my English is awful. But your English is even worse than SR. Here you go:

[RachelDawes]

^I'm not sure what you're talking about. Your English is excellent.

Originally Posted by Zor-El

I agree. I think a reboot would need to sever all ties. Heck, even when you DO sever all ties to previous films in a reboot-- people still get confused. I knew a bunch of people back in 2005 who thought Batman Begins was a prequel to Batman (1989).

I felt the same way all the way back when Ratner or McG (whoever was attached to the film at the time... it's all a blur ) suggested their film would be separate from the Reeve movies, but still occasionally reference the John Williams theme. Reboots are meant to take your mind off the previous franchise. Anything that brings you back to a different incarnation would just be counter-productive.

Doesn't that mean it wouldn't matter if we severed all ties? Routh could return.

[Webhead2006]

Well if they promote and show that the film is a total reboot the regular joe public would known its new and different.

[SuperDaniel]

As long as it is not a sequel to SR and they DO NOT use Donner's Luthor, i'll be fine.

[mojo-x]

Originally Posted by FaT_tONle

He sort of was a mix... I mean people still argue that Harvey Dent was black in Batman: TAS. Despite all that... it's a stark contrast. I think we need that for Lex Luthor in the new Superman film regardless of who plays Superman. If they just cast a younger Gene Hackman/Spacey look alike people will still think its a prequel.

Harvey Dent was black in Batman also.

[BATZARRO WWD]

I don't think I should have to interpret a film's continuity. So...It'll be what it's said to be, unless it's not obvious enough.

[mojo-x]

Originally Posted by lukedoggwalker

godawful according to who? the average 17 yr old who cant sit still through a movie without an explosion every 5 minutes? correct me if im wrong but i remember the critic reviews for the movie were very good. and superman 3 and 4 were Donners sequels, you cant just ignore those movies and say SR came after 2. give SR it's own history, it was a deep and well put together movie, it'd be nice to see what happened before and Donnors films although nicely done for its time doesnt quite "fit the bill."

my idea is to make it a prequel/reboot, that way we dont just ignore yet ANOTHER superman film, it'd be dumb and confusing as hell (especially since they want Brandon back.) they already said they're making a reboot so why not make it a prequel as well, to not confuse the audience and add flavor to SR in the process.

So what you are saying is that making the next movie a prequel to a movie that was suppose to be a sequel to a 30 year old movie that already had 3 existing sequel is going be less confusing then to just reboot and start over?

[MAN O STEEL]

godawful according to who? the average 17 yr old who cant sit still through a movie without an explosion every 5 minutes?

Why do ppl always come to this conclusion if someone doesn't like something?. It's so clich'e & quite disrespectful IMO. I myself am almost 24 yrs old but I don't look down on someone who's 16-17 who likes Transformers, accusing them of being part of the weak minded MTV generation, co's it's simply not true. Some ppl just have different tastes & thier damn well entitled to it whether you like it or not. Transformers is not trash for an A.D.D generation who can't handle story, it's for ppl who love action, cool characters & the nostalgia of thier childhood. they should not be looked down upon for it. No one here is better than the next person. Fact is SR was a bad movie not because it had to much story & not enough action, it was god awefull because it executed the story very poorly. No character progression on anyone's part that seemed logical or justified, it was a bunch of scenes thrown together to look like a movie.






Steve

[Nightwing1983]

Originally Posted by Man of Tomorrow

Even though the next film is bound to be visually/stylistically different to SR (given the new director) and most likely darker and grittier (given WB's TDK approach), I'm pretty sure it's going to have to be an origin tale; like Batman Begins. A modern take on Superman's "year one" in order to serve as a proper 'reintroduction' to the character.

With Brandon Routh on board, some audiences will see it as a reboot (fresh start, new beginning), while others will see it was a prequel to SR (the vague history).

Either way, everyone's happy, WB makes it's money. It was probably the smartest move to please everyone given the divided reaction to SR.

Question is, will you interpret a "Year One" Superman film for 2012 with a 32 year old Brandon Routh as a reboot or prequel?


PS: This whole approach reminds me of Byrne's 1986 revamp of Superman in the comics.

I think you're being a little presumptuous. To me, the whole reason I want a reboot is because I want to get away from the whole plot of Superman Returns with the son.

I'm also not sure how married WB is to any particular idea, including doing a new origin or having Routh in the role. These have been talked about, sure, but I don't see any movement being done.

[Zor-El]

Originally Posted by RachelDawes

^I'm not sure what you're talking about. Your English is excellent.



Doesn't that mean it wouldn't matter if we severed all ties? Routh could return.

Hey, I like Routh as Superman a lot! And I really enjoyed Superman Returns, too. That's why I think the Superman franchise is a weird place right now...

To me, a total reboot means getting rid of ideas that didn't really work in Returns. Like Jason, Luthor's motivation, etc. But unfortunately "forgetting" some really great aspects of the movie as well... which, for me, means Brandon Routh, the Williams theme, etc.

[RachelDawes]

Originally Posted by Zor-El

Hey, I like Routh as Superman a lot! And I really enjoyed Superman Returns, too. That's why I think the Superman franchise is a weird place right now...

To me, a total reboot means getting rid of ideas that didn't really work in Returns. Like Jason, Luthor's motivation, etc. But unfortunately "forgetting" some really great aspects of the movie as well... which, for me, means Brandon Routh, the Williams theme, etc.

That's probably what will happen, unfortunately for Routh fans. I can do without the Williams theme, no problem.

[Wally West]

I don't know how they could consider using Routh for a reboot, unless they planed on forcing Singer back only to give a short introduction to the film offering the audience an explanation, and an apology...it wouldn't have to be totally humiliating, they could allow him to remind the audience that he made films like the Usual Suspects, and Xmen2 and that everybody makes mistakes. Obviously I'm joking, but I really do think he owes Brandon an apology.

[Octoberist]

then bring out a Bryan Singer impersonator to come out and hug everyone in the audience!

[Fresh Prince]

Could Joseph Gordon-Levvitt play a good Clark Kent/Superman? He is a good actor. All he have to do is put on weight and he be set.

[Timstuff]

Heck no, he's tiny. The guy played friggin' Cobra Commander!

[Webhead2006]

i take him maybe for a jimmy but he is how old now?