Transformers: ROTF Box Office Discussion

[kedrell]

POTC2 really was the first negatively reviewed movie to get into the 400M club. But by comparison with TF2, POTC2 was a masterpice according to critics. Eh, only the 500M and up club remains untainted.

[matrix_ghost]

I duuno if i would call POTC 2 negatively reviewed. Yeah i know it has a 53 % rating on RT but IMO it was quite enjoyable. And it definately was one of those movies where i think critics and the general audience didn't quite look eye to eye on this.

But yeah TF though. 19 %....
With news of more and more movies being shown in 3-d i think that the 400 million mark will be reached faster and more frequent by other movies.Regardless of people thinking it as a gimmick , one has to admit that it is driving people the the cinema. Ice Age 3 actually outgrossed Harry Potter in foreign markets while G-Force was tough competion for Harry Potter in foreign markets.
Even movies like Final Destination and My Bloody Valentine performed "well" because of the 3-d.

Anyway i am lad that ROTF wasn't shown in 3-d though. It would've killed my eyes from watching everything in MIchael Bay'sMTV style editing

[kedrell]

Well what I meant being that it's the sole under 60% film in the 400+ club. Not for long though.

But yes, it still was able to get slightly more positive reviews than negative ones. But it used to be a rotten film could never get into that club. Ah, the good ole' days.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Originally Posted by kedrell

Hopefully it comes up short. If this movie can make 400M then 400M has ceased to be special.

I would have to disagree, it just shows people still want to be entertained by a mindless movie every now and then.

Originally Posted by kedrell

POTC2 really was the first negatively reviewed movie to get into the 400M club. But by comparison with TF2, POTC2 was a masterpice according to critics. Eh, only the 500M and up club remains untainted.

I thought TF:ROTF was much better than POTC2 to be honest, and I like both franchises.

[matrix_ghost]

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

This are of course estimates

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen P/DW $805,000 $400,437,000

[dark_b]

holly s.... 400 in US and around the world.

[Ace of Knaves]

Not really that surprising to be honest. I think everyone knew this was gonna make good money whether it was the pile of **** that I think it is or whether it was a cinematic tour de force.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Originally Posted by matrix_ghost

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

This are of course estimates

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen P/DW $805,000 $400,437,000

Even with it just being estimates it must have passed that mark, the estimates are never usually out by that much.

[kedrell]

Originally Posted by The Ace of Knaves

Not really that surprising to be honest. I think everyone knew this was gonna make good money whether it was the pile of **** that I think it is or whether it was a cinematic tour de force.

This begs the obvious question; If you don't need to put out excellent quality to make mega-bucks then why bother with all the extra effort that requires?

[dark_b]

Originally Posted by kedrell

This begs the obvious question; If you don't need to put out excellent quality to make mega-bucks then why bother with all the extra effort that requires?

so people must like only the same type movies?
they can not give TDK in 2008 money and in 2009 to a toy commercial?

[Anita18]

Originally Posted by kedrell

This begs the obvious question; If you don't need to put out excellent quality to make mega-bucks then why bother with all the extra effort that requires?

Well, someone's still working hard on the movie, even if it lacks in character development and story. The CG people certainly need to put in extra effort for a movie like Transformers vs. any Tarantino movie.

With today's ticket prices and huge opening weekends, $400 million isn't ridiculously unattainable anymore. Color me impressed when another $450+ million comes up.

[dark_b]

people like both. they like entertaining movies like TF2 and they also like big inteligent movies like TDK. people also liked district 9 that had action an fantastic characters and a fantastic story.

its just BS. people still like both.

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm actually suprised it's not going to gross as much as POTC2 with that huge opening.

[Ace of Knaves]

Originally Posted by dark_b

people like both. they like entertaining movies like TF2 and they also like big inteligent movies like TDK. people also liked district 9 that had action an fantastic characters and a fantastic story.

its just BS. people still like both.

Ehhh I didn't find TF 2 entertaining, more like annoying to the highest degree possible.

It was like a ADD suffering teenagers wet dream. That is what TF 2 was.

Sure the SFX were great and the action was great. But that isn't an achievement, that is to be expected in this day and age. And Bay has been doing that sorta stuff for so long it really shouldn't be applauded that it is the ONLY thing good about the film.

[terry78]

Michael Bay is a license to print money, because there are a lot of people all over the world, not just in the states, that are like him. He's loud, he's brash, he doesn't apologize for being it. His movies demonstrate that, and it's appealing.

[Anita18]

Originally Posted by I SEE SPIDEY

I'm actually suprised it's not going to gross as much as POTC2 with that huge opening.

That's because apparently WOM is worse. But yeah, it's interesting to see how frontloaded most of the big films are getting.

[Sentinel X]

I hope this falls short and doesnt beat Spider-man.

I pretty much knew it would hit 400 million...imagine if it was actually good. I guess 400 million is the new 300 million...or will be, pretty darn soon since 400 million is becoming much more common now.
Next year Iron Man 2 and Toy Story 3 are the top contenders for 400 million, and Avatar still has a chance but Im a bit skeptical for that one.

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Originally Posted by dark_b

people like both. they like entertaining movies like TF2 and they also like big inteligent movies like TDK. people also liked district 9 that had action an fantastic characters and a fantastic story.

its just BS. people still like both.

Exactly, TDK is the much better movie, but what am I going to want to watch after a hugely stressful day at work were I get people moaning at me all day? Sorry, but i'm gonna go with TF2.

[rashad]

I found this amusing.

Most of this industry is obsessed with the domestic box office results, but we can't forget that overseas box office results are just as important as well. While we don't normally care about box office numbers, this was just too shocking. As of this moment, Titanic is the #1 overseas box office earner, at $1.24 billion, followed by Return of the King at $742 million. This week, the #3 spot, currently held by Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, will be overtaken by one of this year's releases. What is it? Not what you think. Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs has passed $657.5 million at the overseas box office. Are you kidding me?!

http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/09/...hat-you-think/

400 is not the new 300 quite yet. While I see Toy Story 3 grossing in the 300's. I can't see Avatar making 400 million.

1Titanic Par. $600,788,188 1997
2The Dark Knight WB $533,345,358 2008
3Star Wars Fox $460,998,007 1977^
4Shrek 2 DW $441,226,247 2004
5E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $435,110,554 1982^
6Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace Fox $431,088,301 1999
7Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest BV $423,315,812 2006
8Spider-Man Sony $403,706,375 2002
9Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen P/DW $400,641,549 2009

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/domestic.htm

[kedrell]

Much better to say 400M isn't nearly what it used to be a decade ago when films like Spider-Man & Titanic were out.