Should characters in "Captain America" smoke?

Silvermoth · 11-10-2009, 01:45 AM

Hi all, time for a serious discussion.

So we all know how bad it is to advertise smoking to movie going audiences. It's dangerous for people's health and encourages addiction.

That said, I've always thought the "Captain America" film should be a period piece that shows how things have changed. When I saw "Mad Men" I thought, thats what I want for a "Captain America" film.

I also think it adds to the authenticity of the era such as in films like "Munich" and "Saving Private Ryan."

Although I don't think either Captain America or Bucky should be seen smoking

R_Hythlodeus · 11-10-2009, 04:18 AM

of course they should. I don't understand why hollywood stopped on-screen smoking in the first place.
it's like because of potential car accidents in the real world, people in the movie suddenly stop using cars.

hugekent · 11-10-2009, 07:04 AM

Yeah it's ridiculous. Hasn't Wolverine given up smoking a cigar in the comics because a relative of the Marvel editor died of lung cancer? I remember reading something about that.

Triad · 11-10-2009, 10:54 AM

I voted "No".
Despite the widespread use of cigarettes in the 30's & 40's and the general ignorance of the harm they cause, I don't think they really need to show it to convey the time-frame.
I'm actually a smoker (albeit reluctantly at the present) and I don't necessarily agree with Hollywood's ban on cigs on film either, but if it isn't important to the plot, then why have it in the movie?
Besides, if I try to quit, that's THE LAST thing I want to see in a smoke-free theater...someone puffing away onscreen while I'm jonesin' for a drag! Lol!

Rage · 11-10-2009, 01:17 PM

I think it should be in the movie to contrast how things have changed. Of course Cap shouldn't smoke and can actually mention how bad they are for you to a fellow soldier or Bucky... but the movie should show how times have changed... it will make the man out of time element of the Avengers that much better

Webhead2006 · 11-10-2009, 02:00 PM

personally i dont smoke or drink or do drugs myself, i dont really the the harm of a few characters either a supporting or background character taking a smoke at different point in the film.

Triad · 11-10-2009, 08:52 PM

Well using Rage's idea as a jumping off point, Bucky could light up on the battlefield & Cap could say "Those'll kill ya" & he replies "I think they might have to get in line behind the Nazis!". Then when Cap's unfrozen (if they go a similar route as The Ultimates) Bucky could tell him as an old man that he has asthma & emphysema and "How does it feel to always be right?"

deathshead2 · 11-10-2009, 09:18 PM

Maybe. It honestly doesn't add or take away anything important to the movie.

With the whole MPAA not likeing smoking, and Joe Q banning smoking from MARVEL comics it won't happen anyway.

Brian2887 · 11-11-2009, 07:15 PM

Many of the characters in Cap should smoke. You betcha. It fits with the period.

Should Cap? Lord no.

Stripesy Strip · 11-14-2009, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian2887

Many of the characters in Cap should smoke. You betcha. It fits with the period.

Should Cap? Lord no.

Exactly. I just don't see Cap smoking anyway. The guy should be as clean as possible.

Ace of Knaves · 11-14-2009, 05:35 AM

Yes there should be characters who smoke. If you want it to be authentic, then you gotta ignore the politically correct ********.

GNR · 11-15-2009, 06:23 PM

ridiculous

Ace of Knaves · 11-15-2009, 06:26 PM

What's ridiculous?

Ridiculous is not showing a very common thing on the front lines in those days because it will offend the mommys and daddys.

Aesop Rocks · 11-23-2009, 02:51 AM

Stane and Stark smoked in Iron Man.

Agent 194 · 11-23-2009, 11:49 AM

Sure. Because that's the way things were then. But I still say he shouldn't use a gun (and while I'm at it...I love the boots with cuffs....or the dreaded 'pirate boots' everyone keeps referencing) because that's the way he was.

KatarHol · 11-24-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian2887

Many of the characters in Cap should smoke. You betcha. It fits with the period.

Should Cap? Lord no.

That's one of the first red flags of the old '90 movie. Steve Rogers smoking! Even as a kid,i was like,"That's not right"................

Webhead2006 · 11-24-2009, 10:06 PM

yea i really see no issue with other soliders or background characters smoking. Since it was the thing back in the 30s and 40s.

Rage · 11-24-2009, 10:40 PM

THE RED SKULL SHOULD SMOKE!! A cigarette through a long filtered holder...

dwanyewest · 11-25-2009, 04:59 PM

I don't mind either way if they smoke or not.

Son of Coul · 11-25-2009, 10:15 PM

To not have characters smoke in this movie that takes place during a time period when damn near everyone smoked would be like saying it didn't happen at all.

MysterioMenace · 11-28-2009, 11:28 AM

Smoking lends so much to the film noir styles of the period; it’s the cause for the literally smoky atmosphere. Losing it would really hurt the artistry in my opinion.

Compi716 · 11-28-2009, 04:35 PM

Yeah, sure. Throw some cigarettes in there for stylistic purposes.

Webhead2006 · 11-30-2009, 04:27 PM

yea i said it before it wouldnt be bad if some background characters are doing it. Since that was a common thing of the time.

Silvermoth · 03-26-2010, 08:11 PM

Time for a bump I think.

DorkyFresh · 03-26-2010, 09:52 PM

sure! Grace smoked all the time in Avatar (pg-13)

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11-10-2009, 01:45 AM	#1
Silvermoth Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 4,745	Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Hi all, time for a serious discussion. So we all know how bad it is to advertise smoking to movie going audiences. It's dangerous for people's health and encourages addiction. That said, I've always thought the "Captain America" film should be a period piece that shows how things have changed. When I saw "Mad Men" I thought, thats what I want for a "Captain America" film. I also think it adds to the authenticity of the era such as in films like "Munich" and "Saving Private Ryan." Although I don't think either Captain America or Bucky should be seen smoking Last edited by Silvermoth; 11-10-2009 at 03:20 AM.

11-10-2009, 04:18 AM	#2
R_Hythlodeus Nerd Supreme Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: vienna, austria (europe) 6.784 km east of new york Posts: 3,731	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? of course they should. I don't understand why hollywood stopped on-screen smoking in the first place. it's like because of potential car accidents in the real world, people in the movie suddenly stop using cars. __________________ 2013: Gangster Squad, Side Effects, A Good Day To Die Hard, Iron Man 3, Star Trek Into Darkness, Kick-Ass 2, Despicable Me 2, Pacific Rim, Elysium, Rush, Runner Runner, Sin City: A Dame To Kill For, Malavita, The World's End, Thor: The Dark World, The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug, Monuments Men, Jack Ryan Everything Else? I don't care! ZWERG/ELF a fantasy RPG based bilingual webcomic

11-10-2009, 07:04 AM	#3
hugekent Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 485	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Yeah it's ridiculous. Hasn't Wolverine given up smoking a cigar in the comics because a relative of the Marvel editor died of lung cancer? I remember reading something about that.

11-10-2009, 10:54 AM	#4
Triad Sofa King Suite! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Paper Street Soap Co. Posts: 1,914	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? I voted "No". Despite the widespread use of cigarettes in the 30's & 40's and the general ignorance of the harm they cause, I don't think they really need to show it to convey the time-frame. I'm actually a smoker (albeit reluctantly at the present) and I don't necessarily agree with Hollywood's ban on cigs on film either, but if it isn't important to the plot, then why have it in the movie? Besides, if I try to quit, that's THE LAST thing I want to see in a smoke-free theater...someone puffing away onscreen while I'm jonesin' for a drag! Lol! __________________ It's a damn good time to be a comicbook fan! Last edited by Triad; 11-10-2009 at 10:58 AM.

11-10-2009, 01:17 PM	#5
Rage Valar Morghulis Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,028	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? I think it should be in the movie to contrast how things have changed. Of course Cap shouldn't smoke and can actually mention how bad they are for you to a fellow soldier or Bucky... but the movie should show how times have changed... it will make the man out of time element of the Avengers that much better __________________ WINTER ISN'T COMING FAST ENOUGH :)

11-10-2009, 02:00 PM	#6
Webhead2006 The Web-Swinger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 39,735	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? personally i dont smoke or drink or do drugs myself, i dont really the the harm of a few characters either a supporting or background character taking a smoke at different point in the film. __________________ Warner Bros Restructure's Dc comics into DC entertainment. Hopefully more characters and long in developmental hell projects can make it into the big and small screens soon. Marvel and the House of Mouse? www.ItsJustMovies.com

11-10-2009, 08:52 PM	#7
Triad Sofa King Suite! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Paper Street Soap Co. Posts: 1,914	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Well using Rage's idea as a jumping off point, Bucky could light up on the battlefield & Cap could say "Those'll kill ya" & he replies "I think they might have to get in line behind the Nazis!". Then when Cap's unfrozen (if they go a similar route as The Ultimates) Bucky could tell him as an old man that he has asthma & emphysema and "How does it feel to always be right?" __________________ It's a damn good time to be a comicbook fan!

11-10-2009, 09:18 PM	#8
deathshead2 Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,143	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Maybe. It honestly doesn't add or take away anything important to the movie. With the whole MPAA not likeing smoking, and Joe Q banning smoking from MARVEL comics it won't happen anyway. __________________ James Lipton wrote the theme to Thundercats. Wow, he is a greater man than orginally thought.

11-11-2009, 07:15 PM	#9
Brian2887 Nerd. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The City of Angels Posts: 4,723	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Many of the characters in Cap should smoke. You betcha. It fits with the period. Should Cap? Lord no.

11-14-2009, 05:35 AM	#11
Ace of Knaves Banned User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Riding on the storm... Posts: 31,569	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Yes there should be characters who smoke. If you want it to be authentic, then you gotta ignore the politically correct ********.

11-15-2009, 06:23 PM	#12
GNR worships John Matrix. Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 10,822	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? ridiculous

11-15-2009, 06:26 PM	#13
Ace of Knaves Banned User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Riding on the storm... Posts: 31,569	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? What's ridiculous? Ridiculous is not showing a very common thing on the front lines in those days because it will offend the mommys and daddys.

11-23-2009, 02:51 AM	#14
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11-23-2009, 11:49 AM	#15
Agent 194 Class One Supervisor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in a New York penthouse apartment with a black cat Posts: 1,635	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Sure. Because that's the way things were then. But I still say he shouldn't use a gun (and while I'm at it...I love the boots with cuffs....or the dreaded 'pirate boots' everyone keeps referencing) because that's the way he was. __________________ *I'm Supervisor 194 - Codename Gary Seven.* This is the most critical period in Earth's history. The planet I'm from wants to help Earth survive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6lmBbV3VWo&NR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmynXHrR74w&NR

11-24-2009, 10:06 PM	#17
Webhead2006 The Web-Swinger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 39,735	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? yea i really see no issue with other soliders or background characters smoking. Since it was the thing back in the 30s and 40s. __________________ Warner Bros Restructure's Dc comics into DC entertainment. Hopefully more characters and long in developmental hell projects can make it into the big and small screens soon. Marvel and the House of Mouse? www.ItsJustMovies.com

11-24-2009, 10:40 PM	#18
Rage Valar Morghulis Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 3,028	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? THE RED SKULL SHOULD SMOKE!! A cigarette through a long filtered holder... __________________ WINTER ISN'T COMING FAST ENOUGH :)

11-25-2009, 04:59 PM	#19
dwanyewest Newbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 8	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? I don't mind either way if they smoke or not.

11-25-2009, 10:15 PM	#20
Son of Coul I dunno what to type here Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 3,418	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? To not have characters smoke in this movie that takes place during a time period when damn near everyone smoked would be like saying it didn't happen at all.

11-28-2009, 11:28 AM	#21
MysterioMenace Side-Kick Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 270	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Smoking lends so much to the film noir styles of the period; it’s the cause for the literally smoky atmosphere. Losing it would really hurt the artistry in my opinion. __________________ Batman (1989) - 4/5 / Batman Returns - 2/5 / Batman: MotP - 4/5 - Batman Forever - 1/5 / Batman and Robin - Doesn't Exist / Batman Begins - 4/5 / Dark Knight - 4/5

11-28-2009, 04:35 PM	#22
Compi716 The SHH! Jew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Los Angeles. Posts: 8,168	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Yeah, sure. Throw some cigarettes in there for stylistic purposes. __________________ Clark Kent is Superman's critique of the entire Human race. I write for this talent agency's blog. Read it, 'cause it's awesome: http://atbtalent.blogspot.com/

11-30-2009, 04:27 PM	#23
Webhead2006 The Web-Swinger Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 39,735	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? yea i said it before it wouldnt be bad if some background characters are doing it. Since that was a common thing of the time. __________________ Warner Bros Restructure's Dc comics into DC entertainment. Hopefully more characters and long in developmental hell projects can make it into the big and small screens soon. Marvel and the House of Mouse? www.ItsJustMovies.com

03-26-2010, 08:11 PM	#24
Silvermoth Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 4,745	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? Time for a bump I think.

03-26-2010, 09:52 PM	#25
DorkyFresh Sum Dum Goy Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Currently living in sanity. Posts: 19,168	Re: Should characters in "Captain America" smoke? sure! Grace smoked all the time in Avatar (pg-13) __________________ Karma: What Goes Around Comes Around: You Get What You Give: Treat Others As You Would Like To Be Treated <-:{=:]:[my ART thread]:[:=}:->

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