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Old 08-19-2010, 08:07 PM   #1
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Alright, it's time for my second thread. Let's hope that the feedback is more receptive. So, after a little forum reading, I realized that the biggest complaint among fans is that the movie and comics timelines don't agree. Now, one possible way around this is to say that Professor Xavier erased the memories of Angel, Iceman, and the rest of the X-Men, thus explaining the previous events. As a bonus, this could also allow the story to explore Xavier's dark side, as this memory-wiping would serve some purpose- to be explained by the film. Alternatively, the discrepancy could be explained as the work of a villainous memory-wiper or time manipulator. The way that I see it is that we don't have very many options on the matter. What is an easier "pill to swallow": dealing with the mangled continuity, or accepting something that- admittedly- requires a great deal of suspension of disbelief?

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Old 08-19-2010, 08:17 PM   #2
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i think we need to realize that the comics and the films are entirely separate entities. But i think that Vaughn should retcon the film continuity through time travel or mind manipulation by either Xavier or Emma Frost.

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Your idea still has flaws... the biggest one being that Angel and Iceman are younger characters than there three of the original five counter parts.

However i like your enthusiam so let me offer you a ray of light there.

1. In the relation to the comics Iceman's age is probably closer to the younger members than the likes of cyclops and jean who were older than he was in the original comic.
2. I have a theory on Angel - in the comics Angel was around the same age as Cyclops, possibly slightly older, but the trouble is we have a younger version of himself. But when you think about it. Mutation in the comics starts at puberty and warren was around 13/14 when his wings started to appear, the scene then takes place 10 years later - so what we know is that Warren is roughly 24 years old... Now in the comics they havent really aged that much, its much slower. think Cyclops is only just over 30 years old now in the comics. James Marsden was older but i believe the characters of Cyclops and Jean was supposed to be representing students who had left the school as pupils and had become teachers. So letst say 18 was the age they left, spend a couple of years earning teaching degrees so they would of had to start teaching the other pupils around the age of 22 and then you figure that not alot of time had passed since they started teaching, say what 4 years at the max... that would make Jean, Cyclops and probably Storm somewhere around the age of 26/27 - now when you put that up against Angel who is a character of around the age of 24 then its not a big difference.

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Old 08-20-2010, 07:18 AM   #4
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It really annoys me when people say the continuity is messed up because its not like the comics.
The films continuity is not messed up, only First Class has the protential to do that, and we have no idea how that will play out.



Anyway, I dont like your idea of Xavier wiping whole characters memories to fix a film. It just feels a little cheap.

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Wolverine already messed up some continuity and if First Class wants this to have continuity, then they have to further bend over to connect all these films. Mindwiping, amnesia, and clones are CHEAP and LAME. They are the most terrible plot devices in the history of plot devices.

My idea imo is so much better:

Bishop comes back from the future and his involvement changes the line of events to create a new time line. Star Trek did is perfectly and reinvented a tired franchise.

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Old 08-20-2010, 06:18 PM   #6
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i think we need to realize that the comics and the films are entirely separate entities. But i think that Vaughn should retcon the film continuity through time travel or mind manipulation by either Xavier or Emma Frost.
I can't believe that I didn't think of her! Mind manipulation could be the plot device that introduces her character.

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Your idea still has flaws... the biggest one being that Angel and Iceman are younger characters than there three of the original five counter parts.

However i like your enthusiam so let me offer you a ray of light there.

1. In the relation to the comics Iceman's age is probably closer to the younger members than the likes of cyclops and jean who were older than he was in the original comic.
2. I have a theory on Angel - in the comics Angel was around the same age as Cyclops, possibly slightly older, but the trouble is we have a younger version of himself. But when you think about it. Mutation in the comics starts at puberty and warren was around 13/14 when his wings started to appear, the scene then takes place 10 years later - so what we know is that Warren is roughly 24 years old... Now in the comics they havent really aged that much, its much slower. think Cyclops is only just over 30 years old now in the comics. James Marsden was older but i believe the characters of Cyclops and Jean was supposed to be representing students who had left the school as pupils and had become teachers. So letst say 18 was the age they left, spend a couple of years earning teaching degrees so they would of had to start teaching the other pupils around the age of 22 and then you figure that not alot of time had passed since they started teaching, say what 4 years at the max... that would make Jean, Cyclops and probably Storm somewhere around the age of 26/27 - now when you put that up against Angel who is a character of around the age of 24 then its not a big difference.
Hmm... Maybe age manipulation could play a part in the movie?

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It really annoys me when people say the continuity is messed up because its not like the comics.
The films continuity is not messed up, only First Class has the protential to do that, and we have no idea how that will play out.



Anyway, I dont like your idea of Xavier wiping whole characters memories to fix a film. It just feels a little cheap.
Again, we have to asses which is the bigger issue among all of the fans- the continuity discrepancies, or this "cheap" method, as you label it.

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Wolverine already messed up some continuity and if First Class wants this to have continuity, then they have to further bend over to connect all these films. Mindwiping, amnesia, and clones are CHEAP and LAME. They are the most terrible plot devices in the history of plot devices.

My idea imo is so much better:

Bishop comes back from the future and his involvement changes the line of events to create a new time line. Star Trek did is perfectly and reinvented a tired franchise.
Well, I am warming up to your Bishop idea, but don't you think that flawed continuities and not following the source material is even more "cheap and lame"?

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Only way to fix this series is complete reboot, and that's not what they're doing. X-Men is dead to me as a movie series.

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