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Oh thank god! IM2 was horrible! |
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WTF MARVEL. Its like X-Men 3 all over again... |
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50 | 46.73% |
Meh, time will tell. |
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51 | 47.66% |
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#126 | |
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Whether or not things are indeed 'a mess' at Marvel, this is undoubtedly a spanner in the works. It's also overtaken the Norton debacle as the most obvious sign that things aren't that rosy with the studio's masteplan, given that Iron Man is still their biggest asset. It's safe to say the only reason Favreau would abruptly leave would be because he'd had enough of studio interference (not that that'll be the official line), which means whoever else comes in will have to suffer it. I'm struggling to see how that's a good prospect.
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-Mickey Rourke was low-balled for IM2 and I believe he only took the part because he wanted to work with RDJ for many years, and finally had the opportunity to do so. -Ed Norton/Louis Leterrier both had issues with Marvel insisting on cutting out parts of the script. I understand Marvel being a bit nervous with the movie being too slow again, but nothing I saw on the bonus scenes would have extended the movie that much further -Terrence Howard was reportedly low-balled as well, and while some may think Cheadle is a better actor (which I do too) in this type of film, your acting pedigree isn't as important as your chemistry with the central character, and Howard had a heck of a lot more chemistry with RDJ. -Now that I think of it, Samuel L. Jackson was low-balled too, at least initially, and for somebody that's supposed to be the thread that ties all this together, you would think Marvel wouldn't have played games with him for as long as they did -And now this. I don't think it's unreasonable to believe Favreau just wanted to do his own thing, but at the same time, just look how enthusiastic he was about the whole universe at first. He wanted to executive produce Avengers for Pete's sake, you don't jump at that sort of opportunity if your not fully invested. Now all of a sudden, after IM2, where once again we hear reports of discontent with the director and principal actor over changes being made, mysteriously, he wants nothing to do with the franchise again?
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I was worried that Marvel would scare of Favreau with their business practices and it looks like those fears were well founded. This sucks to hear.
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You bring up smoke and fire. But Marvel brought on Anthony Hopkins, Natalie Portman, Tommy Lee Jones, William Hurt, Tim Roth, Hugo Weaving, Stellan Skarsgard, Stanley Tucci, Mark Ruffalo, Jeremy Renner, Don Cheadle, etc. to their movies. These are some of the best actors in the business are they not? Marvel apparently can bring these actors to their stable, yet it is being said that they are cheap. It doesn't add up does it? Even the lesser characters in Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, and Captain America are highly regarded actors and somewhat well known. A cheap studio would hire nobodies from the CW and cheap young actors like Fox is doing with that awful X-Men movie. If Marvel was as cheap as many of you claim, Cheadle would not be War Machine. The guy from the Old Spice ads would be. The movies would look like cheap crap with poor special effects (cough Wolverine cough), but instead all of their movies have been high quality in this department. |
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rumor is rdj is the reason favs left
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Source would be nice?
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cbm i know lol but something to keep the gossip high!!!
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Jon Favreau Explains Why He Traded ‘Iron Man 3′ For Disneyland Trip
Still making my way through it, but nothing particularly revealing as of yet.
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All I'm gonna say is this, all of this will go away if the remaining three Marvel films (Thor, Captain America, and The Avengers) are successful, including the latter being crazy successful.
The Avengers will not only be the biggest gauge of the superhero genre, but it will no doubt decide the future of Marvel Studios. Will everything, including everything that's happened behind it be worth it. Either way, someone should make a documentary about this when all the films are done. ![]() ![]() |
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I love classic Disney stuff, so this movie might actually be pretty good. I wish him best of luck, but it's sad that he isn't finishing the trilogy. It sounds like there wasn't any issue with the studio so I don't understand all the speculation here. Sad though if the reports of an RDJ/Favreau rift are true. |
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And insert fan opinions throughout as it went from:
(If the Avengers suceeds): From excitement to confusion, anger (after the Norton thing) to sadness (After the Favs thing) to happiness (If The Avenger fails): From excitement to confusiong, anger, to sadness to disappointed/depressed From excite |
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Hmmm... I guess I'm giving Marvel too much benefit of the doubt but maybe it was simply a matter of franchise burnout for Favs. He really does have a lot on his plate post IM2 and perhaps the thrill factor just isn't there for him like it was with the first movie.
Sure, Marvel probably interfered more than JF would've liked. Maybe there was an increasing rift between JF and RDJ... but studios intervene frequently with their big pics and I didn't have much issue with the Avengers material included. In fact, I really didn't think it was all that intrusive. And I definitely appreciated the small bits of Black Widow; getting to see a female hero kick ass again was very much welcome. IM2 could've been streamlined, but it still managed to gross almost as much as its predecessor domestically, so... *shrugs*
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Aside from that, where are all the subtrations in these movies? They have done a good job keeping their talent aside from these two big instances. The Favreau thing is sounding more like he was drawn to a huge Disney project, which he probally is going to get paid alot of money for. |
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I think when they want him for Magic Kingdom he said yes because it's a movie for him. |
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He didn't deserve a raise or to keep making more than RDJ, no way in hell. So him leaving was more Arad's fault.
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Well, obviously Favs doesn't want to do it. His heart is not in it anymore I guess?
I don't think this means the third one will suck. It will be a different beast, though, and that could be very good, actually. The franchise needs a hungry director.
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Well his explanation as to why he left makes sense and behold, no foul play or awful negotiations.
Sounds like he just wanted to move onto something that gave him a bit more creative freedom. |
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It sucks that Favreau isn't coming back, I wish him the best.
I hope they get an equally as talented director. And for the love of all thats good and holey, get a director that knows action, I love Favs and all, but he just didn't know how to make an action sequence.
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