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Old 02-21-2011, 08:53 PM   #26
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Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent sounds good, I havent' seen Mr. "IF YOU BUILT IT HE WILL COME" for a long time. I need to catch up on some of his movies

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There's no need. Kevin's getting up there in age, though not nearly as old as Glenn Ford was when he played it (7 year difference). This is semi-recent pic of Kevin:

That's old enough.

They could grey him up much more. Snyder did that with all the Minutemen survivors in the present of Watchmen.

Pa Kent is generally grandfather age around the time Superman begins.

It's been that way in all the comics (except Birthright due to the Smallville TV series tie-in) and even in The Animated Series and all the Animated movies.... and the serials, and the Reeves series.

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Old 02-21-2011, 08:57 PM   #28
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If he's playing Pa Kent, I'll be pretty excited. I didn't think he was doing much acting in movies that he isn't directing these days.

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They could grey him up much more. Snyder did that with all the Minutemen survivors in the present of Watchmen.

Pa Kent is generally grandfather age around the time Superman begins.

It's been that way in all the comics (except Birthright due to the Smallville TV series tie-in) and even in The Animated Series and all the Animated movies.... and the serials, and the Reeves series.
I don't see what relevance a few years has. Ignoring that this is a reboot so it's not particularly obliged to strictly follow previous iterations, what advantage is it to age an already elder actor?

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Interesting factoid.

Kevin Costner (Pa Kent) is the same height as Henry Cavill (Superman), 6'1. I do think Snyder will do some camera tricks with Cavill here.

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With the modern makeup and effects they could easily do a Benjamin Button with Costner, making him look mid-40's when they find Kal-El and mid-60's when Clark leaves for Metropolis and he passes away.

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I don't see what relevance a few years has. Ignoring that this is a reboot so it's not particularly obliged to strictly follow previous iterations, what advantage is it to age an already elder actor?
I wouldn't consider him elderly. The Kents are senior citizens essentially, especially during the time Superman begins.

Costner isn't there yet.

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I'd like to think they'll cast somewhat 'household names' in the rest of the supporting cast, kinda adds even more interest to the film for some who otherwise might not have seen the film.

John Goodman is a well known name.. isn't he?
I'd love goodman as perry, and he is definitely a well known name.

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With the modern makeup and effects they could easily do a Benjamin Button with Costner, making him look mid-40's when they find Kal-El and mid-60's when Clark leaves for Metropolis and he passes away.
Yeah, I have a feeling this will be similar to Watchmen and what Snyder did with Carla Gugino and Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

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Old 02-21-2011, 09:12 PM   #35
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I dont know how I'd feel about that. I really didn't care for the aging make-up in Watchmen.

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Old 02-21-2011, 09:17 PM   #36
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Continued failure if they go with a Superman who runs home to mommy and daddy for pie and advice.

Of course this is just being made to keep the rights from Siegel's daughter (his wife passed away just recently), so it's not like they give a crap about getting Superman right I guess.
why is is so wrong for Superman to go home to visit his folks? He obviously loves his parents....is it that hard for you get through your mind? good grief! It doesn't make him any less SUPER or any less of a MAN.

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Old 02-21-2011, 09:18 PM   #37
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Same, but all of Snyder's big movies that rely heavily on CGI and makeup have that artificial look to them...

None of Snyder's big budget work has that down to earth 'real' approach. He's the anti-Nolan in many ways.

I'm worried about overuse of stylized greenscreen and CG here, but that's another thread.

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Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent sounds good, I havent' seen Mr. "IF YOU BUILT IT HE WILL COME" for a long time. I need to catch up on some of his movies
Make sure you watch "Open Range"

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Everybody should watch Open Range.

Speaking as a huge Costner fan this is great news.

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Kevin Costner as Pa Kent? Definitely going the Birthright route.

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Old 02-21-2011, 09:42 PM   #42
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since Goyer wrote it, he will take ideas from several different stories...not just Birthright

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Kevin Costner as Pa Kent? Definitely going the Birthright route.
I would be very happy with that myself... It was a good read. Aside from the huge orange insect in the middle of Downtown Metropolis, it was a page turner.
If they had to bring Lex back, Again, that would be the best one. And Pa Kent's issues in the story was the most interesting I've seen for the character. Very relatable.

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why is is so wrong for Superman to go home to visit his folks? He obviously loves his parents....is it that hard for you get through your mind? good grief! It doesn't make him any less SUPER or any less of a MAN.
Because the character is better off with his parents dead. Running home to mommy and daddy for pie and advice while Batman deals with his own issues like a man is a good bit of why people look at Superman as a loser. A perfect white picket fence family is boring. It's not a coincidence that the Fonz and not Ritchie Cunningham was the most popular character on Happy Days.

It just doesn't work.

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You don't think Batman would visit his folks if they were still alive? And the Fonz was popular because he wore leather, rode a motorcycle and punched a jukebox to turn it on...not because he was a loner

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Maybe the Kents could be gunned down in a mob war or fed into a wood chipper or something else suitably grim so Supes can be angst-ridden like Batman.

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Because the character is better off with his parents dead. Running home to mommy and daddy for pie and advice while Batman deals with his own issues like a man is a good bit of why people look at Superman as a loser.
Batman has Alfred, his surrogate father.

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I see him doing Pa Kent.

I know the Kent's are usually older than most when they first find Clark, but I never liked them being practically already senior citizens.

I also really liked John Schneider as Johnathan. A bit younger than would be ideal for me, which is actually why I like this casting. It feels like it will be similar to that, only older, but not too old.

All that said, Costner is 6'1", same height as Cavill. I wonder if they will tweak that a bit with lifts in scenes together, just to keep Clark a touch taller?

Apparently in Smallville, though Tom and John are both listed at 6'3", Tom would often be in socks, and John in shoes, shooting a scene, and Tom still looks taller.

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I would be very happy with that myself... It was a good read. Aside from the huge orange insect in the middle of Downtown Metropolis, it was a page turner.
If they had to bring Lex back, Again, that would be the best one. And Pa Kent's issues in the story was the most interesting I've seen for the character. Very relatable.
Nail on the head.

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