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Old 02-21-2011, 09:53 PM   #51
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I'd like him for Perry the most, but Jonathan would be cool. I'd rather they go younger for Jor-El this time around though.
Personally I wouldn't mind seeing Robert DeNiro as Perry.

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Old 02-21-2011, 09:53 PM   #52
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You don't think Batman would visit his folks if they were still alive? And the Fonz was popular because he wore leather, rode a motorcycle and punched a jukebox to turn it on...not because he was a loner
The Fonz had magical powers! He could snap his finger and the jukebox could turn on.

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Costner as Pa Kent is a great choice. I'm surprised we could get that casting before Lois.

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Costner as Pa Kent is a great choice. I'm surprised we could get that casting before Lois.
Lois isn't even the female lead for this.

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Because the character is better off with his parents dead. Running home to mommy and daddy for pie and advice while Batman deals with his own issues like a man is a good bit of why people look at Superman as a loser. A perfect white picket fence family is boring. It's not a coincidence that the Fonz and not Ritchie Cunningham was the most popular character on Happy Days.

It just doesn't work.
I have to disagree. Merely having both of his parents alive doesn't automatically lead to what you are stating. There is something to be said about writing. Lazy writing yes, but with a little thought, I'm confident it won't come across that way. Plus Superman is not Batman and I don't like the idea of a brooding Superman. Plus how think how much of an emotional payoff it would be if Pa Kent actually met his demise in the second or third movie.

I think having his parents alive could be an opportunity to introduce to the audience the real Clark Kent which would allow him to express himself about everything he is experiencing.

Even Nolan's Batman series has Alfred as a confidant and allow the audience to see what he is thinking and feeling.

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Costner as Pa Kent is a great choice. I'm surprised we could get that casting before Lois.
This is a fantastic choice. I think Pa Kent will have more of a role that Lois in this one.

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You don't think Batman would visit his folks if they were still alive? And the Fonz was popular because he wore leather, rode a motorcycle and punched a jukebox to turn it on...not because he was a loner
But they're dead, and so were Superman's when he was relevant.

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Maybe the Kents could be gunned down in a mob war or fed into a wood chipper or something else suitably grim so Supes can be angst-ridden like Batman.
Or maybe they should die and Superman be unable to save them, learning the huge lesson that even his powers have limits. I have never said that his motivation should be the loss of his parents.

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Batman has Alfred, his surrogate father.
Not the same, plus Alfred was originally not part of Batman's life. Regardless, Batman has an adult existence, not a too-good-to-be-believed perfect white picket fence family. The Kents were kept alive because they got rid of Superboy. The mistake was keeping them around kept Superman himself Superboy forever. It was a well-meant change and a somewhat subtle one but it has been part of the reason for Superman's decline to near-irrelevance over the last 25 years.

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This is cool casting. Wonder if we'll get the Nolan casting for this. Big names for even minor roles.

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This is cool casting. Wonder if we'll get the Nolan casting for this. Big names for even minor roles.
it seems like they're going that route. despite Snyder helming the film, i certainly sense Nolan's presence. he might not be telling Snyder what to do...but i hope the fact that Nolan is producing influences Snyder to step up his game and make a movie that's more timeless than his previous efforts.

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Wow, Kevin Costner. Brilliant. I would of never picked him out of a lineup by memory but thinking about it, he brings a great face to the franchise and would make a great Pa! Plus, he brings an experienced face to the franchise, one who people could relate to judging by his longevity in career.

Good call. I like. +1.

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it seems like they're going that route. despite Snyder helming the film, i certainly sense Nolan's presence. he might not be telling Snyder what to do...but i hope the fact that Nolan is producing influences Snyder to step up his game and make a movie that's more timeless than his previous efforts.
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There's no need. Kevin's getting up there in age, though not nearly as old as Glenn Ford was when he played it (7 year difference). This is semi-recent pic of Kevin:



That's old enough.


I'll tell ya....Costner has made some great films......Silverado, The Big Chill, The Untouchables, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, Dances With Wolves, Revenge, A Perfect World, Tin Cup, Open Range, Thirteen Days, JFK.

Also some duds, The Postman, Waterworld, Wyatt Earp (even though he wasn't bad as Wyatt though) 3000 Miles to Graceland.....

The man is only 56 years old also and it seems like he has been around forever.

Solid casting though if he winds up being Jonathan "Pa" Kent though.

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I'll tell ya....Costner has made some great films......Silverado, The Big Chill, The Untouchables, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, Dances With Wolves, Revenge, A Perfect World, Tin Cup, Open Range, Thirteen Days, JFK.

Also some duds, The Postman, Waterworld, Wyatt Earp (even though he wasn't bad as Wyatt though) 3000 Miles to Graceland.....

The man is only 56 years old also and it seems like he has been around forever.

Solid casting though if he winds up being Jonathan "Pa" Kent though.
Looks like I can forget about Betty White playing Ma Kent.

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Old 02-21-2011, 11:12 PM   #64
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But they're dead, and so were Superman's when he was relevant.



Or maybe they should die and Superman be unable to save them, learning the huge lesson that even his powers have limits. I have never said that his motivation should be the loss of his parents.



Not the same, plus Alfred was originally not part of Batman's life. Regardless, Batman has an adult existence, not a too-good-to-be-believed perfect white picket fence family. The Kents were kept alive because they got rid of Superboy. The mistake was keeping them around kept Superman himself Superboy forever. It was a well-meant change and a somewhat subtle one but it has been part of the reason for Superman's decline to near-irrelevance over the last 25 years.
But if Batman's family was alive he would visit them because it's evident by how much he misses them and loves them. Just because you love your family doesn't mean everything is perfect and "white picket fence" like as you have so stated MANY times. Loving your family and wanting to see them doesn't mean he has to seek advice because he doesn't know how to be a man and solve things on his own and I have no idea where you get this from. Maybe your parents didn't love you enough as a child, I don't know...I don't get along with my father but I still love him and my mother. Just because you visit home doesn't mean you are running from your problems. I do think that Jonathan passing away should be a catalyst for Clark to become Superman. But I just don't think that going home to ask for advice makes him weak. And really relevance has nothing to do with telling a great and interesting story.

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I'll tell ya....Costner has made some great films......Silverado, The Big Chill, The Untouchables, Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, Dances With Wolves, Revenge, A Perfect World, Tin Cup, Open Range, Thirteen Days, JFK.

Also some duds, The Postman, Waterworld, Wyatt Earp (even though he wasn't bad as Wyatt though) 3000 Miles to Graceland.....

The man is only 56 years old also and it seems like he has been around forever.

Solid casting though if he winds up being Jonathan "Pa" Kent though.
Whatchu talkin' bout Willis? 3000 Miles to Graceland was the f**king bomb. Even if it was also A bomb.

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Whatchu talkin' bout Willis? 3000 Miles to Graceland was the f**king bomb. Even if it was also A bomb.

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3000 Miles to Graceland is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Guys dressed like Elvis blowing people away in over the top fashion in a casino? Courtney Cox bound and gagged in a trunk? Christian Slater?

Instant classic.

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I doubt Pa Kent will die in this one, otherwise they wouldn't have cast a younger vigorous actor.
Uh... What makes you think Costner is younger and vigorous...?

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3000 Miles to Graceland is a guilty pleasure of mine.

Guys dressed like Elvis blowing people away in over the top fashion in a casino? Courtney Cox bound and gagged in a trunk? Christian Slater?

Instant classic.
Agreed 100%

As far as who he'd play, I'd really like to think Jonathan Kent if anyone... Much as I love him as an actor, I wouldn't want him to touch Perry White or Jor El. Nowhere near the range required for them...

Come on guys, we all love Kevin Costner for various movies (Untouchables, Silverado, Waterworld, another guilty pleasure of mine), but kinda like Keanu Reeves, we can all agree that he doesn't have much range and is not a totally fantastic actor, right? They just pick their roles well.

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I'm hoping this goes through. If it does, this movie will be 2/2 as far as casting goes.

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Lois isn't even the female lead for this.
Not confirmed at all...

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great choice to play Pa Kent

Costner is a great actor and i'm sure he'll do an excellent job

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Costner as Jonathan Kent? I like it.

And I for one am all for BOTH Kents being a presence in Clarks adult life. It allows the audience an opportunity to see Clark in a different light. A more personable perspective.

Having both parents still around gives them an opportunity to present a side of Superman that has yet to be explored in the movie universe.

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Continued failure if they go with a Superman who runs home to mommy and daddy for pie and advice.

Of course this is just being made to keep the rights from Siegel's daughter (his wife passed away just recently), so it's not like they give a crap about getting Superman right I guess.
Why do you consider modernization such a bastardization?

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There are some out there who don't want Ma and Pa Kent to be all that prevalent in Clark's life...

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