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Superman has been very sci-fi oriented since the `50s. And while it'll be nice to see Superman punch an alien or monster they also need to ground the picture. Even Star Wars had its human moments.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rujArU3il8 At the 6:02 mark, Burton says "I wasn't a comic book fan but I was a fan of the image". He doesn't mention a single comic book from that time as influencing the look, or his take of the movie. Also no, The weapons and vehicles are a touchstone of their time but part of Batman's image comes down to the gadgets, the weapons. Burton's Bruce Wayne was not the suave debonair millionaire playboy of the comics, his Batman wasn't the controlled methodical, ready for anything hero. He was a neurotic mess that walked , blanked eyed through a hail of bullets, and then instead of slipping off into the shadows and chasing the Joker's gang, he stared doe-eyed at Vicki Vale and ran off.
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The battle for truth and justice doesn't cease when he puts on his glasses! This scenario illustrates the point..... Superman saves the lives of a small village from heavily armed attackers/terrorists. The weaponry is cutting edge and of American manufacture, as Clark Kent he investigates and discovers a weapons black market that benefits the profits of said manufacturer and reveals that information via the power of the press. Superman is powerless against the company, obviously if he trashed the company he would be public enemy #1, but as Clark he is free to act.
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Besides Harryhausen, were there any other pop culture references that influenced your recent movies like comic books? Those kinds of things that you grow up watching like the Rankin and Bass "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer", they stay with you. They just kind of form what you like to do. I wasn't a big comic book fan, really. I don't know if I was dyslexic, but I always had trouble knowing which box to read first. I kept reading the wrong box and thought this is a comic book that doesn't make any sense. Do I read the one up here or the one down here? I couldn't quite deal with it. Quote:
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However I feel like we're getting off track. I stand by my statement, People will want to see a version of Superman they recognize from Television and films inn the new movie. No radical changes just upgrades.
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Criminals getting released on bail isn't a bad thing. It not like they're paying to not go to prison, they're paying to not sit in jail until the court case is over. There's still going to be a trial where there could be a conviction. And the bail money helps pay for the trial.
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So, essentially Superman is the Super "Obeyer" Man, who doesn't care who person has a right, only what the law dictates. It's like saying if he was raised by the Taliban, he shouldn't break the laws they have come up with, because he simply doesn't break them. Meanwhile many women would get beaten the s** out of them. Um, that doesn't seem very logic to me. And don't tell me that Americas laws are another thing than the Taliban ones. In both worlds laws do not treat equal people. And that's a fact.
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And as for the lawyer thing, yeah, that's true, but it' not that simple. The amount of evidence against the defendant is also a factor. And that also has nothing to do with the law. It's not the fault of the legislature that the best defense attourneys charge huge fees for their services.
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And where does it stop? Lex is a legit villain, but would Superman go after other corrupt companies? And what does it mean to be corrupt? Better hope your answer falls in line with Superman's. What does Superman do about other laws he might find unjust? What if he were anti abortion? Would he send all abortion doctors to the Phantom Zone? What about illegal immigration? I hope he is feeling kinder towards all those illegals. And if he is, he doesn't think about "dealing" with anyone who thinks contrary to him. Because he can get away with it. He's Superman. He's above the law. He's not Super "Obeyer" Man.
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So he doesn't defend "justice" but just "laws." I know the subjecxt is noit easy but it's time for it to be addressed. |
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But again, that's not the fault of the law, that's the fault of capitalism. The Justice Department has no control over how indipendant lawyers want to market their services.
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And that's exactly the flaw of the system my friend. You just said it. If there was true justice, the legal system wouldn't allow capitalism to interfere with the laws, so that poor people wouldn't have a strong defense. But that's the nature of how things are. Justice and corruption will always be connected. And that's where the S comes in. lol
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And there really isn't a middle ground. Either Superman enforces the law or he doesn't. He doesn't get to pick and choose due to inconvenience.
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So, how would Superman fix this? When he breaks the bad ol' law in order to do justice, how will he make people trust the God like being who can't be stopped by anyone who also doesn't give a damn about the laws the people set up for themselves?
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I don't know, I just hate the portrayal of the good puppy, who poses as a tool next to flags and presidents who most of them are corrupted. I like him the most when he stands next to less fortunate people.
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All I know is that if we see the same old caricature that we've seen since post crisis, this movie will have definetely failed in one area, and all the action and snyder special effects wont be able to change that.
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