The Official Zack Snyder Thread - Part 3

[SuperAl]

Originally Posted by JAK®

Everybody brings up the fact he lifted the kryptonite island but forgot that he died immediately afterwards. It's not like he just did it no problem.

whats your definition of dying? he didnt even die. he woke up the same night and flew away, he had a pulse the entire time he was in the hospital.

This is superman tho, i get some of you are trying desperately to defend SR which i did like but these are superhero movies, he should be fighting supervillains not lifting objects or fighting rocks. If you want people risking their lives doing that kind of stuff go watch a movie about firefighters not a movie about the greatest and most powerful hero created. I find it incredibly weird that people sound almost as if they would rather see him lifting kryptonite then going toe to toe with his villains. Just because we want him to actually use his powers to fight a vast array of villains doesnt mean we are saying superman=boxer. you might as well say that every1 thinks batman, spidey, captain american, thor, gl, iron man=boxer because they threw punches.

Superheroes fight supervillains!

[JAK®]

Originally Posted by SuperAl

whats your definition of dying? he didnt even die. he woke up the same night and flew away, he had a pulse the entire time he was in the hospital.

Except for the part where he flatlined. The only reason why he could come back to life was the hospital attention.

This is superman tho, i get some of you are trying desperately to defend SR which i did like but these are superhero movies, he should be fighting supervillains not lifting objects or fighting rocks. If you want people risking their lives doing that kind of stuff go watch a movie about firefighters not a movie about the greatest and most powerful hero created. I find it incredibly weird that people sound almost as if they would rather see him lifting kryptonite then going toe to toe with his villains. Just because we want him to actually use his powers to fight a vast array of villains doesnt mean we are saying superman=boxer. you might as well say that every1 thinks batman, spidey, captain american, thor, gl, iron man=boxer because they threw punches.

Superheroes fight supervillains!

I'm not desperate to defend anything. I give credit where credit is due. I want a supervillain as well. I have no say in this punching debate.

[hopefuldreamer]

Originally Posted by JAK®

Except for the part where he flatlined. The only reason why he could come back to life was the hospital attention.

Actually, I thought the point of that scene was that the hospital COULDN'T help him, other than removing ther rest of the green k from his wound. They couldn't shock him, couldn't inject him etc etc.

[JAK®]

Originally Posted by hopefulsuicide

Actually, I thought the point of that scene was that the hospital COULDN'T help him, other than removing ther rest of the green k from his wound. They couldn't shock him, couldn't inject him etc etc.

Yeah, I was referring to removing the kryptonite. The hospital helped by giving him a stable environment to recuperate, not through any procedure of their own.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

The kryptonite mountain WAS impressive, especially considering he was severely weakened yet still managed to take it out of the earth's atmosphere... but as others have said it was not a substitute for an awesome final battle with a supervillain. Seeing a display of strength like that in MOS would be amazing as long as the fight scenes aren't sacrificed.

[herolee10]

I remember watching the Teen Choice Awards (either in 2006 or in 07), that had Superman Returns in a category, and it was humorlessly nominated in the “best fight” sequence, which was for “Superman vs THE PLANE”.lol

[hopefuldreamer]

Originally Posted by herolee10

I remember watching the Teen Choice Awards (either in 2006 or in 07), that had Superman Returns in a category, and it was humorlessly nominated in the “best fight” sequence, which was for “Superman vs THE PLANE”.lol

Yeah but did you see that plane? It was hardcore! It hit Superman with it's wing and sent him flying!

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by herolee10

I remember watching the Teen Choice Awards (either in 2006 or in 07), that had Superman Returns in a category, and it was humorlessly nominated in the “best fight” sequence, which was for “Superman vs THE PLANE”.lol

Man. It's the Teen Choice Awards.

[hopefuldreamer]

Originally Posted by JAK®

Except for the part where he flatlined. The only reason why he could come back to life was the hospital attention.

Personally I didn't see him flatline. I saw their attempt to shock him blow up the machine, which then appeared to show a flatline because it couldn't get a reading on him.

But this is all just further proof to me of how confusing the movie was in general.

[Llama_Shepherd]

He did die.

[hopefuldreamer]

Originally Posted by Llama_Shepherd

He did die.

Can you summarise what that vid is? Cause I'm at work all day, and can't watch it!

[Llama_Shepherd]

Originally Posted by hopefulsuicide

Can you summarise what that vid is? Cause I'm at work all day, and can't watch it!

Superman falls to Earth after throwing Lexland into space. He is taken into Hospital where his heart rate is zero. A small shard of Kryptonite is removed from the wound inflicted by Lex. They try to inject him with Adrenaline, but the needle breaks on his skin, they try to use a defibrillator, but his bosy insulates against the electricity and short circuits it. The doctors stare hopelessly as they cannot get him to regain rhythm. Cuts to Perry's original Daily Planet headline "SUPERMAN DIES".

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Originally Posted by Llama_Shepherd

He did die.

Fixed

[Kryptonian Warrior]

Originally Posted by GoblinWhirlwind

The kryptonite mountain WAS impressive, especially considering he was severely weakened yet still managed to take it out of the earth's atmosphere... but as others have said it was not a substitute for an awesome final battle with a supervillain. Seeing a display of strength like that in MOS would be amazing as long as the fight scenes aren't sacrificed.

I know that we are off subject of the current thread, but I just wanted to throw my 2 cents worth in. That scene was very impressive to me because it showed just how much he cares for humans and just how strong he really is. I really think that what the story was trying to convey was that if he didn't do something, then Earth might ultimately suffer the same fate that Krypton did. It may not have exploded like Krypton did, but billions of lives could have potentially been lost. So even though the growing island was made out of Kryptonite, he knew that it was up to him to take care of it even if that meant sacrificing himself. If that doesn't scream "Superman", then I don't know what does. I'm sure that most of you will roll your eyes at me, but that's the way that I interpreted that scene, and it was powerful IMO.

[hopefuldreamer]

Originally Posted by Llama_Shepherd

Superman falls to Earth after throwing Lexland into space. He is taken into Hospital where his heart rate is zero. A small shard of Kryptonite is removed from the wound inflicted by Lex. They try to inject him with Adrenaline, but the needle breaks on his skin, they try to use a defibrillator, but his bosy insulates against the electricity and short circuits it. The doctors stare hopelessly as they cannot get him to regain rhythm. Cuts to Perry's original Daily Planet headline "SUPERMAN DIES".

Okay where in what you posted does it negate what I originally said my interpretation was.

The doctors look hopeless because they don't know how to treat him, because their machines can't even get a read on his vital signs to be able to tell what the hell is going on.

As for back at the DP, they also had the headline Superman Lives right next to it... Or did you miss the comment on the neccesary morbidity of preparing both papers incase he in fact DID die... But he hadn't yet...

[Llama_Shepherd]

Originally Posted by hopefulsuicide

Okay where in what you posted does it negate what I originally said my interpretation was.

The doctors look hopeless because they don't know how to treat him, because their machines can't even get a read on his vital signs to be able to tell what the hell is going on.

As for back at the DP, they also had the headline Superman Lives right next to it... Or did you miss the comment on the neccesary morbidity of preparing both papers incase he in fact DID die... But he hadn't yet...

He didn't have a heartbeat. No pulse = dead, in movies anyway.

[Spoonman]

Originally Posted by El Payaso

Man. It's the Teen Choice Awards.

And yet, they were dead on the money

[The Batman]

I wait for the day on the MOS board where 90 % of discussion dosent devolve into rants on SR.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Try coming back for the sequel then.

[The Batman]

^ I wouldnt be surprised if I had to do that, but I'm a bit optimistic that the neverending SR complaints will slow down once filming starts.

The constant SR jibes feel like a divorced person ranting about their ex, even though they've been divorced from their spouse for years and the spouse is not around anymore.

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by The Batman

^ I wouldnt be surprised if I had to do that, but I'm a bit optimistic that the neverending SR complaints will slow down once filming starts.

The constant SR jibes feel like a divorced person ranting about their ex, even though they've been divorced from their spouse for years and the spouse is not around anymore.

Hah. That's a good parallel.

[GoblinWhirlwind]

Originally Posted by The Batman

^ I wouldnt be surprised if I had to do that, but I'm a bit optimistic that the neverending SR complaints will slow down once filming starts.

The constant SR jibes feel like a divorced person ranting about their ex, even though they've been divorced from their spouse for years and the spouse is not around anymore.

Once filming is rolling along and we have more to look at than a cast list, it will.

Why people like to drone on and on about stuff they claim to hate, I'll never know.

[hopefuldreamer]

Just thought i'd say, Sucker Punch has really grown on me after a second viewing.

It's not perfect in a lot of ways... but I really like it actually.

[©KAW]

I haven't been following the new Supes movie, who's the villain(s) in this film?

[manofsteel4life]

Originally Posted by ©KAW

I haven't been following the new Supes movie, who's the villain(s) in this film?

so far the only confirmed villian is Zod.....Faora has supposedly been cast as well, but wb hasnt come out and confirmed it, but i guess its safe to say she is in it