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Jacques Dernier was a French resistance fighter who teamed up and helped out the Howling Commandos in the comics, Jim Morita was in a different squadron who got captured and rescued by the Howling Commandos. For some reason they had Howling Commando Percy Pinkleton the first Union Jacks name James Montgomery Falsworth even though the character looks and acts like Pinkleton ![]() I think it was Kevin Feige who said Rogers was Captain America for atleast 3 years.
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The cube thing could have thrown them off I suppose. I just prefer the way it's been done in comics to be honest. Cap in a slab always seemed harder to find(and all together more tragic) than him riding coach.
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Peronally though, I think it works better that way. Cap was able to save the world but if he was only active for a limited amount of time, then it makes sense that people would have (apparently) forgotten about him by the time Iron Man showed up on the scene. |
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Plus, one of the biggest factors in making planes difficult to find after a crash is that they often diverge from their intended flight path at some point after their last transmission. I'm not sure there's any reason to suppose that the Giant Wing was still following its flight path. That increases the square mileage of the search area astronomically. I'm not sure what your further comment about "playtechtonics" means? A huge amount of the Arctic is just ice covering ocean, and yes, the size of storms in the Arctic and the way they can transform the landscape is colossal. The landscape also isn't smooth surface, either. Even if it only takes them a few days to get to what they think is the vicinity of the crash site, it would be completely covered and unrecognizable from the air. And it may be that they wasted weeks or longer, by assuming that the Cube would be with the plane, and thus they followed the signature of the Cube. By the time Howard recovered the Cube and concluded the plane wasn't with it, that's that much more time passed for signs of the actual crash site to be obliterated by the Arctic weather. Now... I do agree with you that it's a bit weird that everybody clearly had a broad notion of where the Wing and Cap went down... and over all the subsequent decades and advancements in technology, they didn't KEEP looking. I'd be really interested to know why Howard Stark eventually gave up, when he appeared pretty determined to find it, and the Starks seem like stubborn guys. Quote:
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But as you read my issue is with their ability to find him. The slab works way better than the titanic sized ship. Let's put it this way, if the Titanic was an treat to the country launched with the worlds great hero on it crashed within 30secs while never breaking radio contact. Crashed on a surface that wasn't littered with buildings and jungles but just slabs of white ice mind you. I would be having just a hard a time believe it. Now if you tell me that they are to this day looking for an individual body from the original crew of the titanic I'd have a lot better time going to sleep at night(all jokes aside of course). That's my issue. They put him in the front of the star ship enterprise, crashed him at the footsteps of the coast line(or so they claimed) and he was lost for 70 years. now maybe if Steve had jumped...
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I didn't like that it ended.
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I kind of agree that if the Titanic hadn't sunk and had instead become ice-locked near the surface, I'd never believe that they couldn't have found it. That thing was as tall as a skyscraper. The Giant Wing, on the other hand, was relatively flat. And I'd argue that it's boomerang shape, with its wing-tips, would have contributed to it looking like another upended ice floe once it got snowed on and iced-over. Quote:
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The dude(who happened to be a rocket scientist) didn't agree with the fact that the nasa shuttle landed that close to the black of the moon and that it would be impossible or something of the sort. I honestly just chalked it up to his knowledge real science inhibiting his enjoyment whereas as the laymen accepts it willingly. This cap situation is similar however one doesn't need to be a rocket scientist to notice something like this.
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See where I got confused was when Cap's marking different areas on the map with flags. I didn't know how much time had passed at that point.
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It may still be that way. They found the Shield in the plane but if the plain was broken apart he could have been nearby but in a block of ice. I like the idea of TIH cut scene being cannon and that is the reason that it was found. Hulk jarred the glacier section loose and then the Russians spotted it later. I hope thats how it goes anyway.
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I also see where you are coming from with real world situation and flight plan divergence. Though all we know of the divergence is that cap pointed the plane down. Here's the thing. If Osama Bin himself took off on a giant wing whilst battling Obama himself and we all know where it launched from. The wing crashes about 1minute later just after Obama now victorious says good bye. The inability to find it just strikes me as a contrivice. Even if it happened 70 years ago and you replace the key players with Hitler and Roosevelt. Lost planes scenarios just seem to make more sense when it's low key players and late search party deployment. Not when bombers carrying multiple atomic weapons go down near homeland.
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Right. Thats how I see it as well. They specifically mention the changing landscape in the beginning for that very reason.
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Well, he had over 200 performances selling war bonds, all those assaults took time to plan and gather intell, etc. I think it was effective in showing how much time passes.
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No, that part I got. It was when he finally went into the battlefield. He rescued the men then we get a cut of him marking flags on a map. It seemed like they were trying to indicate he'd been busy doing certain intel, but it just doesn't make it obvious how long.
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Count me in as one who was unsure of how much time had passed. That was probably the only thing I didn't really like, which was how quick or "rushed" the last 30-40 minutes felt. I thought the first hour was great, but after that, basically once he's fully Cap in action, felt a little too quick.
Also, how there was not really any adjustment period to his powers. It almost seemed like he automatically knew how strong and fast he was as soon as he got out of the machine.
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Their rules being they are skilled at what they do, yet they couldn't do such a thing when it was possible. I think the cube thing was a valiant attempt. However they probably would have had more luck using practical methods.
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I am hoping the sequels are modern era with flashbacks to the past.
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though I doubt it's in continuity by way of being cut, but that doesn't account for the ship not being found. I do suppose that would mean that the cap movie is takes place most recently as far as continuity is concerned.
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